Brazilian Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Wellgirl you keep harping on about getting unemployed folk into Fir Park No offence intended, I've been unemployed a few times myself, but to be quite honest if someone is unemployed (and hardup/struggling) they shouldn't be thinking about spending even a tenner of their income on a feckin football match. you are flogging a dead horse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggischomper Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 I don't mind all these initiatives at letting new punters in on teh cheap but the flipside of that coin is that the die-hards who are there week in and week out never seem to catch a break like that. Howzabout reduced season ticket prices (a %age off) if you have a season book for 5 years? A further reduction after 10 years 'service' etc etc? Would just be nice to look after the everyday guys a bit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobey_Dosser Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Wellgirl you keep harping on about getting unemployed folk into Fir Park No offence intended, I've been unemployed a few times myself, but to be quite honest if someone is unemployed (and hardup/struggling) they shouldn't be thinking about spending even a tenner of their income on a feckin football match. you are flogging a dead horse Agreed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Nah that's just no' right. In every situation you've got to live. It's unlikely if your on the bru whether you'd have any spare dosh to go on a regliar basis granted. But it would be good if there was something in place to get everybody in to the ground that fancied being there on any given week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 I remember long ago I could afford to go to home and away games whilst on the Burroo, betye no' many could dae that noo? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modernist Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 We used to have a UB40 discounts many moons ago, similar to student, OAP's ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 aye MJ but you were only on the dole in the "not employed in a legitimate sense" were you not I'm not saying prices are OK far from it and I agree Diggle that it would be good to have the ground full by having anyone that wants to be there to gain entry. and I totally agree that being out of work shouldn't mean life grinding to a halt but I still stand by the basic point that if anyone is on the dole and struggling they shouldn't be spending the proposed £10 on a fitba match. If there was some other scheme in place, e.g a subsidised or reward scheme for community/club/voluntary work to get folks in then yeah, flood the place with them Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cambo97 Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 The unemployed do get to spend their money on what they want, but you're suggesting they should be able to spend half of the amount someone who is working (and maybe not very well paid) does. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
well_legless_69 Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 i agree why should unemployed get cheaper tickets 90% probably work on the side meaning they have more cash than some folk who work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 aye MJ but you were only on the dole in the "not employed in a legitimate sense" were you not Naw ah wis on ma erse thanks tae Maggie fuckin' Thatcher but fitba' and travel were cheap enough that I could still get tae games. That's the comparison, guaranteed it widnae happen today although granted ah wis still at my parents hoose then but even so. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WellAyrshire Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 maybe give the unemployed cheaper tickets but they would have to help with the maintenance of FP Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazilian Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Why not? Because jobseekers allownace is £64.30 and you are proposing £10 of that be spent on 90mins entertainment, so why not? because that's fucking mental! if you are living of £64 and you are proposing £10 right away, not mentioning travel etc. People can choose to spend their wages anyway they choose, its not wages its a survival allowance, a bare minimum why shouldn't people who are out of work go and see the occasional football game. As for people who are signing on, some people might be doing voluntary work anyway, I'm not saying they shouldn't, in fact, I said they just shouldn't be spending the amount you proposed, and good on the ones doing voluntary work, and a huge well done to them, Oh and wait! our club already gives some free entry and I'm advocating extending those schemes in association with other bodies like the government for those that are unemployed and doing retraining/voluntary community/club work. why should people need to work towards going to see Motherwell? If other SPL clubs can implement this and they have, there's no reason why we can't. It's not flogging a dead horse, it's recognising in this current economic climate that there may be football fans who are going to be joining the dole queue and as a result won't be able to see their team any longer. SPL clubs? thought it was only St mirren, has it been successful? Econonomic climate? yip hard times for many and measures should be taken accordingly but IMHO spending £10 of a week on entry to a Football match is not a measure I would take. Or is football only to be for people who are in employment? JOG ON As for harping on about it, I mentioned it twice before I made this post, once to say what another SPL club were doing, hardly excessive. no not excessive EDIT: apologies Fatcalf I was basing that opinion on my readings of your situation in the past, Good times regarding pricing, indeed in the past for football fans and I'd love it to go back to those days when football was affordable for all, please don't misinterpret my rantings above for anyhting other than, saying £10 entry for UB40's is illadvised Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Easy tigers! - Who's gonna be first to mention that some folk on the bru drink and smoke and all those usual points. There are good points being made on both sides surely Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastStandWellFan Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 If you can't afford it......erm don't go. Where do you draw the line - the unemployed, students, OAPS whatever don't get their shopping cheaper at Adsa, they don't get half price tickets to go see Springsteen or U2 at Hampden, they don't get cheap flights etc, etc. Without getting into the whole benefits issue, the money they do get should be prioritised and I wouldn't have thought a football match was a priority if your kids are starving or you can't put a warm coat on them in the winter. Been said before that football is in the entertainment business and as such it's a luxury not an essential. Sorry if that's a bit harsh but I'm paying for a wedding this year and, amongst other sacrifices, have had to draw a line at going to away matches (Perth on Saturday was my first since November last year, and only because it was the first of the season) - as much as I'd have loved to go to Llanelli or Bucharest I couldn't. Different from being unemployed etc but we all have to cut our cloth according to our individual circumstances. In any event - football IS overpriced in this country. Five euros for the match in Nancy ! Stuart. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
decorator Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 i got my first st from motherwell fc about 30 years ago for free,get the fans young and the club get the money back over the coming years Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modernist Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Just for comparisons sake. M&D's down the road do a season ticket (Use it as often as you like) Entry into the theme park for a family of four is £150......... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 apologies Fatcalf I was basing that opinion on my readings of your situation in the past, Good times regarding pricing, indeed in the past for football fans and I'd love it to go back to those days when football was affordable for all, please don't misinterpret my rantings above for anyhting other than, saying £10 entry for UB40's is illadvised No apology necessary, my entrepreneurial side came to the fore later when I couldn't get back into employment after a while out of work Anyways in that situation now there's no way I could justify going to games, different times though but I'd be well pissed off at missing out due to cost. Away games are a no-no even though I'm doing okay these days, that says much about pricing (or the amount of drink I like to consume on your average awayday, one of the two) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PJM Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Can't justify going to football every week. Costing neary £50 plus just for admission to an away game for me and 2 boys. I was lifted over when younger and was hooked because I went every week but got to be honest I doubt my boys will continue to go when older. It's the Kids prices they should realy sort first, shouldn't be anymore than a fiver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Haggischomper Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 Away games are a no-no even though I'm doing okay these days, that says much about pricing (or the amount of drink I like to consume on your average awayday, one of the two) If only our wages went up at the same rate they put up gate prices and booze prices.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 If only our wages went up at the same rate they put up gate prices and booze prices.... Oh fuck aye, I'd be a blithering wreck by noo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Diggle Posted August 18, 2009 Report Share Posted August 18, 2009 I've got tickets kicking about somewhere from 1985, 1986 and the face value's about £3.50 £4.00 for an OF game at Fir Park and if I mind right there was a 50p hike on the regular charge. Robbin bar stewards even then I remember no long after that a great fanzine called The Absolute Game did a study on the rate of increase and it was alarming then. I suppose some things have increased at the same rate - gig tickets n that while other things haven't CDs for instance have been a tenner or thereaboots for centuries. Laughing at a few of Thatchers disciples on here. "If I've paid full price the poor can fuck off" The comparisons with Springsteen etc are off the mark too as I don't see The Boss struggling to fill more than 50% of the seats at each show, yer guaranteed a performance everytime ye turn up, it's once every 5 years, and yer guaranteed that everyone in the first team breaks sweat. Next ye'll be wantin to take the free school milk off the weans FFS!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brisbaneMFC Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Fitba fans of Scotland, Unite! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mjw Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 40,000 empty seats at spl games on saturday suggests something is f###ed up somewhere thats about £800k going a begging every week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraz1886 Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 seems to be prices at Away games that are ridiculous, the other night a looked up on the site to see how much the tickets for aberdeen away were and they wer £16 for me to get in! , you also need to look at your traveling expenses to get to Aberdeen, then you also have to look at how many empty seats there were. Explains why the attendance and atmosphere in Scotland is no where near the standards of countrys like France Germany ect. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted August 19, 2009 Report Share Posted August 19, 2009 Explains why the attendance and atmosphere in Scotland is no where near the standards of countrys like France Germany ect. the number of people who attend games in scotland as a % of the total population is higher than it is in either of those countries. germany has a population of 82 million and france 65 million. that's why they have bigger attendances. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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