mon_da_well Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Fraser's done nothing wrong in a 'Well top. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hoof hearted Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 hes pish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Pacino Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Fraser's done nothing wrong in a 'Well top. Have you actually been to any games he has played in? He has had plenty of mistakes in the games I've been at. He hasn't been 100% to blame for any goals conceded but he hasn't inspired much confidence either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mon_da_well Posted September 30, 2009 Report Share Posted September 30, 2009 Have you actually been to any games he has played in? He has had plenty of mistakes in the games I've been at. He hasn't been 100% to blame for any goals conceded but he hasn't inspired much confidence either. Yes, I've seen all of Frasers games. And you're right again, he was not at fault for any of the goals he let in and I can't say Ruddy would have kept any of them out. So what's he done wrong? Apart from not be at fault for any goals I mean Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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decorator Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Stewart Kerr is a fuckin liability. He's a fuckin Liar and a usless peice of shit. he is a fucking joke of a person. and he is not right in the head keep them coming Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzie Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I don't really have an opinion of Stewart Kerr, but Michael Fraser is murder polis. Anybody who can't see that really hasn't got a clue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Stewart Kerr is a fuckin liability. He's a fuckin Liar and a usless peice of shit. he is a fucking joke of a person. and he is not right in the head I just showed this to an American and even he saw the irony. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Busta Nut Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I just showed this to an American and even he saw the irony. you are cool as fuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Pacino Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Yes, I've seen all of Frasers games. And you're right again, he was not at fault for any of the goals he let in and I can't say Ruddy would have kept any of them out. So what's he done wrong? Apart from not be at fault for any goals I mean Your original post said that he'd done nothing wrong in a well top. Do you think he's supposed to drop the ball when trying to catch a cross while under no pressure from the opposition? It's a moot point as to whether Ruddy would have kept any of them out but if you've actually watched any of the games you've been at you'll have seen plenty of mistakes from Fraser. Mistakes don't necessarily cost goals you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatcalf Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 I think many made their minds up about Fraser before he even arrived. He's not done much wrong but he hasn't played much but he was never going to be given a chance anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Pacino Posted October 1, 2009 Report Share Posted October 1, 2009 Having never really noticed him at Inverness Caley I had a totally open mind when we signed him. I can only judge him on what he's done for us so far and due to some dodgy moments against Llanelli and Flamurtari I think he needs to improve a fair bit before I'd be comfortable with him as a number 1. Seems that Jim Gannon feels the same since signing a keeper quickly became one of his top priorities and that keeper is now first choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 It's a moot point as to whether Ruddy would have kept any of them out but if you've actually watched any of the games you've been at you'll have seen plenty of mistakes from Fraser. Mistakes don't necessarily cost goals you know. Mistakes by Fraser you mean unlike Ruddy, who has never made a mistake except a fair few at St Johnstone (probably the same that Fraser has done in all his appearances) and against Hibs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dodge Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Fraser was never intended to be our first choice keeper. We signed him at a time when we weren't sure if Graeme Smith was staying. He'll do as back-up and I'm sure will do a job if ever he's needed but in pre-season whilst he never made any mistakes, he didn't exactly turn in any performances which would make folk consider that he should become first-choice either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Pacino Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Mistakes by Fraser you mean unlike Ruddy, who has never made a mistake except a fair few at St Johnstone (probably the same that Fraser has done in all his appearances) and against Hibs? Did anybody ever say that Ruddy hadn't made any mistakes? The post was about Fraser not being up to being the number 1 but if you think otherwise you obviously know something Jim Gannon doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Actually your post was about the large amount of mistakes that Fraser made that have not led to goals... that's not a bad thing in a keeper. If a keeper makes a mistake and it doesn't lead to goals, then it's naw a bad keeper to have... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GazzyB Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 So if a keeper makes a mistake and it doesn't cost us a goal then it doesn't count as a mistake? Bullshit. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Pacino Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Actually your post was about the large amount of mistakes that Fraser made that have not led to goals... that's not a bad thing in a keeper. If a keeper makes a mistake and it doesn't lead to goals, then it's naw a bad keeper to have... Surely you can't be serious? It's not a bad thing when a keeper drops crosses when completely unchallenged or needlessly gives corners away by fumbling the ball, all against lower class opposition? Are you sure you don't just quite like the look of Fraser in his pink strip as I can't see any other reason why anybody would rate him given his performances for us? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 No but he hasn't made any more mistakes than Ruddy has. In fact Ruddy has made more mistakes which have led to goals than Fraser has. Yet no one is on his back. The fact of the matter is, they're professional footballers and there is not a single keeper in the world that doesn't make mistakes, even some of the best, in some of the biggest games in the season (for example Foster against City). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sinky Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 Cant wait to see frasers 3 wonder saves against dundee utd this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC_MKI Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 From what I've seen of Fraser so far, he looks unconvincing, however he has only played four games so it'd be harsh to write him off as a no hoper based on just that. However, it is worth remembering that in his time at Inverness he lost his place to the absolutely woeful Zibi Malkowski, albeit for a brief period, before being kept out of the team last season by the not much better Ryan Esson. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
weeyin Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 I thought Butcher dropped him because he had signed a pre-contract agreement with us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wellfan1984 Posted October 2, 2009 Report Share Posted October 2, 2009 He was dropped by Brewster after stopping Rangers hitting 10 (only he let in 5) and falling out with Brewster. Butcher then choose him as his number 1 in the hope of getting him to stay at ICT - playing in all post-split fxitures Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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