gav212 Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Also, if Ruddy was the best 'keeper in the SPL then there wouldn't be any talk of him staying on. Who do you think is better than him? Not trying to be cheeky, genuine question. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolhandluc Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Definitely Ruddy, but I'd be worried about where the goals would come from if Lukas left. Sutton is getting slower by the week it seems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mon_da_well Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 The Juke. Fraser can play at SPL level no bother and it would be much harder to replace Lukas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trafficlight Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 The pivotal position in every team is the goalkeeper. No other individual can win or lose a team so many points. Success needs to be built from a solid base, for no matter how much attacking talent a team has, you will always struggle if conceding silly goals. If Ruddy is that good and can be signed, get him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mon_da_well Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 The pivotal position in every team is the goalkeeper. No other individual can win or lose a team so many points. Success needs to be built from a solid base, for no matter how much attacking talent a team has, you will always struggle if conceding silly goals. If Ruddy is that good and can be signed, get him. Not true. See Mark McGhee's first season at Motherwell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherwell Football Club Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Who do you think is better than him? Not trying to be cheeky, genuine question. McGregor, Alexander and Zaluska. Still have no idea how Boruc is ahead of him at Celtic. Maybe even at a push I'd also throw in Thomas Cerny as a par with Ruddy. I know this post will get shot down but even though Ruddy is the best keeper I've seen play for us, on a par with Buzz's first six months, He still concedes silly goals at times. Thats gonna happen no matter how good your 'keeper is at any level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shallow Dave Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 The Juke. Fraser can play at SPL level no bother and it would be much harder to replace Lukas. Perhaps. Fraser yet to convince me in a Motherwell strip and I would love to at least see what the young Pole (don't get me on the spelling) has to offer. On your argument, Robbie Keene would have been a good signing for Liverpool. I'm unaware this occurred. From what I've seen of Fraser this season (two games against Llanelli and one against Hamilton), he has been shocking. Whereas I consider Ruddy to have earned us vital points with his saves. Each to his/her own, though. SD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mon_da_well Posted January 27, 2010 Report Share Posted January 27, 2010 Perhaps. Fraser yet to convince me in a Motherwell strip and I would love to at least see what the young Pole (don't get me on the spelling) has to offer. On your argument, Robbie Keene would have been a good signing for Liverpool. I'm unaware this occurred. From what I've seen of Fraser this season (two games against Llanelli and one against Hamilton), he has been shocking. Whereas I consider Ruddy to have earned us vital points with his saves. Each to his/her own, though. SD I don't see the comparison of Keane? And Fraser had nothing to do in the Hamilton game bar pick the ball out of his net twice through no fault of his own. And can only remember one mistake in the game in Airdrie against Llanelli. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shallow Dave Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 I don't see the comparison of Keane? And Fraser had nothing to do in the Hamilton game bar pick the ball out of his net twice through no fault of his own. And can only remember one mistake in the game in Airdrie against Llanelli. Fine. I don't watch football and judge "mistakes". I'd rather see a bigger picture. If I were to choose between a goalkeeper who instills confidence over his defence across 90/120 mins yet may have the tendency to make the odd mistake over one who is perpetually nervous, my decision is an easy one. On the evidence of a few games, Fraser appears to be in the Motherwell stereotype of being poor at crosses and commanding his box. [Albeit a good shot-stopper]. I can't accuse Ruddy of that. We're not Dr Who, cannot change things, and have different views and opinions. Who knows how Motherwell would have fared had Fraser played most of this season? Irrelevant today. If Ruddy gets injured tomorrow I will near guarantee that the ratios of clean sheets to games will substantially change for the worse. All speculation, I know. Keane- my point was Fraser had a reputation ex Inverness that (IMO) hasn't been replicated at Mothwerwell. Keane had a reputation at Tottenham that wasn't realised at Liverpool. Just because a player plays in the same league doesn't guarantee success at a new club. This reads as being patronising though it is not intended. SD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mon_da_well Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 £20M+ transfer of a world class player and a free transfer from ICT? Fraser hasn't had a chance, because Ruddy is better and that's fair enough. But I'm sure Fraser, given the chance, will be a great keeper. Because of that he is easier to replace. The Juke isn't, he is going to be some player and we just don't have anyone who is as good as him just now, and after he leaves, we probably wont again for some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Finlay Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 According to the official site Ruddy has kept 8 (now 9 obviously) clean sheets in the SPL this season. More than any other keeper. Did not know that. Few errors to Rangers at Ibrox and Hibs at FP aside, the guy has been phenomenal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherwell Football Club Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 Yeah, Its great that he has kept clean sheets. The majority of the clean sheets I believe are down to the whole defence and not just the keeper. Same goes for when we have conceded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk2205 Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 You dont need eyes like overcoat buttons to see some of the saves Ruddy has made this year, which have won us many a point we shouldnt of had. Defence has improved on last years showing, just shows how confidence builds when you have a solid keeper between the sticks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kmmfc Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 I'd sign Ruddy as I think he'd earn us more points over the season, plus we'd probably make more money when selling him on. In addition, he gives tremendous confidence to the back four as he is reliable, unlike previous keepers. In saying that, if Lukas bangs in another 10 goals between now and the end of the season, I may have changed my mind!! Great news though that they are both here until the end of the season so let's hope that both remain fit for the remaining games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ONeils40yarder Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 The Juke. Fraser can play at SPL level no bother and it would be much harder to replace Lukas. It would be far easier to replace a good centre-forward than a good goalkeeper. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted January 28, 2010 Report Share Posted January 28, 2010 As Haggis said, we've always been able to unearth decent strikers, but it's been a while since we've had a goalie everyone's agreed on. Well, a good one anyway. We've also produced a few strikers of our own, whereas we don't seem to do that with goalies. I think keeping hold of Ruddy would be worth it in the form of significantly less corner kick related heart attacks. Keeping both would be nice though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_P Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 Clearly touched by winning the poll, Ruddy gives his acceptance speech and thanks > here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Motherwell Football Club Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 You dont need eyes like overcoat buttons to see some of the saves Ruddy has made this year, which have won us many a point we shouldnt of had. Defence has improved on last years showing, just shows how confidence builds when you have a solid keeper between the sticks. The saves? No offence but he hasn't made any saves that say to me he is a greater shot stopper than Buzz was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neil Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 There is no question that he is far better at commanding his box than Buzz was though, and that breeds the confidence in his defense. If there's any ball comes into the box between the line and about 10 yards, Ruddy is all over it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 'Flow Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 The saves? No offence but he hasn't made any saves that say to me he is a greater shot stopper than Buzz was. Up until this year, it was a close run thing between Marsh and big Sieb for the best 'Well keeper I'd ever seen! Ruddy, in my opinion, beats both by some distance and he's destined for big, big things... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jk2205 Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 The saves? No offence but he hasn't made any saves that say to me he is a greater shot stopper than Buzz was. Shot stopping, installing confidence in your defence, commanding the area.. A step above buzz in every department and i'd agree with flow, the best keeper to be between the sticks in a long while. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nethertonwellfan Posted January 29, 2010 Report Share Posted January 29, 2010 I love the attitide of both Everton boys. It just shows that both us and the greatest of all English clubs install the correct attitude in footbal players Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnymfc Posted February 8, 2010 Author Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Cheers guys for all the votes and oppinions. Good to hear. Now onto raising the funds for Ruddy LOL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rickoza Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 Motherwell striker Lukas Jutkiewicz is unsure of his future at parent club Everton. Jutkiewicz has impressed during his time at Fir Park. A big, powerful striker he certainly looks to have a future at a high level. Davie Moyes might take him back to Everton next season but the youngster is waiting for clarification. He told the Daily Record: "Those discussions will be for a later date. I have another year on my contract at Goodison so as far as I'm aware I will go back for pre-season at Everton. But it can all change at any point. "I've said from the word go I'm happy at Motherwell. And if there was an agreement between the two clubs that would allow me to stay then that would be great. "I feel I've improved here. Just playing games will improve you naturally. "I feel a lot more confident and game-ready." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bajiboy Posted April 19, 2010 Report Share Posted April 19, 2010 The last two games have settled the argument for me. Definitely Ruddy. We have scored goals when Lukas was out but haven't stopped them goin in without Ruddy! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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