Pepper

Conceding from set plays to a team like this is far more about the size of their players and quality of their delivery than our defending. We wont see anything like this in the league

its on premier sports 2 as well so no need to rely on the club channel if you're viewing via IPTV. Better picture anaw.

That red card was a total joke

Large scation was a deliberate exageration but that's not the point I was making anyway. It was that you would have envisaged the society having to protect the club from people on the outside traying to gain control rather than it's own supporters, board members or whoever it may be with their feet already under the table.

I never thought that the Well Society's most important function would become protecting the club from a large section of its own fans, but there you go.

It was going quite well until Billy Dodds continued to peddle he myth that Kettlewell resigned because of abuse aimed at his family. Derek Ferguson also seems to think it must have been abuse from well fans located in the main stand, with absolutely no evidence whatsoever. Neither statement challenged. At least the message that whatever it was must have been from a minority of fans (as absolutely no one knows what the abuse actually entailed) is finally being addressed.

I agree with the sentiment of your posts, even if not all of the points you make, Apologies if I have played the man and not the ball in an earlier reply. There is definitely a discussion to be had regarding what is considered to be an acceptable level of abuse in football, not only abuse directed at managers and players from fans, but from managers and players towards officials, and that extends across all levels of the game. In all honesty, I'm a bit bewildered by the whole sorry episode.

None of this is new though. You'd be forgiven for thinking we were the first fans in history to give their manager stick. Just so we are clear, and it goes without saying, any fan who was personally abusing Kettlewell is an arsehole. Ii don't get the double standards comment, these are not the same things.

The general consensus seems to be that he received the same or lesser levels of abuse than others have in the past. I don't think there is any merit in that debate anyway as there are obviously things we will never know. Thee has got to be more to this for to merit the sort of reaction we are seeing, almost entirely across he board. I suspect we may never find out.

I could have put my mortgage on you giving me your resume... Yes I think that post was absolutely fine. The vast majority of the support are quite right to be offended, as they have done absolutely nothing wrong. The way the broader support is being portrayed, regardless of what abuse was actually directed at Kettlewell, is disgraceful. The club statement, society statement, sky interviews and the latest twitter video from the club are a PR disaster. I have no problem with anyone offering Kettkewell support and questioning a victims lived experience is just not tolerated these days, but there must have been a better way to do it that this. How to alienate your fans in 3 easy steps.

I assume you are new to both football and the internet?

Tony?

Comically bad stuff.

Halliday's hand ball was, going by the current rules, a stone waller.

I don't seem to recall accusing you of being a tyrant. But it's convenient you don't have access to the records for the thread I'm on about. It stuck out to me as I enquired about why it was closed on another thread and was told he had left so we were not to discuss him, despite there being a former players thread where similar former employees are dicussed at length and he'd only just left. It was obvious why it was really locked and I wasn't the only one to comment. So it seems it's not only the Bois who have trouble admitting when they are wrong.