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At the end of the day its the fans who wield the power. Stop watching EPL and Euro games on TV and buying their clubs kit and the mega money will dry up.

I found a report on training Compensation and the Solidarity Scheme. States that Uefa and individual Associations decided upon the amount it took to train a player on an annual basis and came up with a payment table. Then they took into account the level of each team and adjusted the fee based on that. I did not find anything about wages offered by either club as being a factor in the calculation. Not saying that was not added later but I cannot confirm. I tried to copy the calculation section and post it here but every time I tried it was blacked out. Not sure why. And I could not figure out a way to post it. I searched ' How is training compensation calculated by Uefa' in Google and then clicked on the top result ' E A Sports Law' . If interested, stick with it for a few paragraphs and you'll find the bit I am quoting from. For info, the Yanks were late in joining the scheme and initially placed their Clubs in the lowest possible grading (4).... as a way to minimise payments. Cadden was the first real test of their stance. In time they were forced to elevate the grading of the US teams to ensure fairness..

Excellent, my mates folks used to have a flat there so Mrs grizzly and I had a few weekends there way back, ahhhh happy days

Yup, thats where I'll be

Well I see Rangers drew 1-1 tonight and progressed to the next stage of the Champions League. A good result for them and our Andy (Halliday) looks pretty chuffed in the studio. It’s always better for us facing them on the back of them having a good result rather than them losing and having more to prove.

Golfers bar still there?

No quite but we've made it as far as the early 70's.

Still on Andy Stewart and Harry Lauder over there .

I think you pronounce his name cheating bast@rd, just in case anyone was in any doubt.

I may be wrong about this (I usually am) but I think when the compensation scheme was introduced, the fee was based on what the selling club offered as a salary to the departing player and not what the buying club were offering, This gives a huge advantage to the "big" club, but, hey-ho, who wants to upset the apple cart.

JRP Gordon I'll say no more.

Our CEO was talking about that a few months ago. It's crazy that there hasn't been an update to the fee structure.

I think the 2025 version of Liam Gordon is every bit as bad as kofi balmer. Balmers arguably been better in the league cup games

Again an issue that needs addressed. The Training Compensation that applies when a young player leaves his parent club (eg. Max Johnston to Graz) is based on some magic calculation linked to ages 12 to 21. A set fee per year developed. Like you I don't think that has kept pace with the market. The Solidarity Compensation which relates to moves thereafter (eg. if MJ joined Juventus tomorrow) is % based so will increase with the market. 5% of the full transfer fee is hived off and shared to those that developed a player from age 12 to 21. Pro rata. . It certainly amounts to very little if MJ moves for £3m. Perhaps £125k only. We would be due around 7 years worth of the 5%. So maybe that % needs to be upped to 10 or 20% in line with commonly agreed add ons? Seems reasonable Also the fact that both schemes apply to cross border moves only is a joke. For transfers within the same Country I think UEFA wanted to leave the local Association to deal with it. Maybe because of volumes or maybe to not stand on the home Authoritie's toes. Scotland could just adopt the same schemes if they wanted but that would require common sense. Accies felt they were shortchanged with the outcome of the Ferguson Tribunal.

Only covers.....and no bloody Muse 😄 But we will do Twist and Shout 3 times at least if we win on Saturday 😄 We play in Rothesay, not Las Vegas 😂 Muse are too new to have reached Rothesay yet !

100% spot on. The only thing is now that the governing bodies should be updating these arrangements to take account of current transfer market trends. There were no £160 MILLION transfers when these development fees were introduced. Current dev fees should reflect current transfer market fees.

I agree 100%. He looks uncomfortable playing out with too many passes playing our midfielders into trouble or being intercepted. His punts upfield have been closer to me than our strikers. He also seems to think whatever goalie we play has the ball skills of Leo Messi. He did fine for St J playing as an out and out stopper CB but that limited role does not suit our brave new world. He needs to show he can adapt or I think JBA will look elsewhere. Time is running out for him to prove himself. Saturday would be a good start.

I like Balmer as a person and always someone that has taken the club to heart. However if we can get money for him then I would definitely take it but we MUST get 2 centre halves in

First phase of last season he was doing just that, strolled thru the games. Then the SK shite ball got to him.

But do you trust him to put his foot on the ball and pass to a team mate? He's been a bit hit or miss in that department so far this season (e.g. his underhit pass that led to the pen against Hertha), but hopfeully that will improve.

Gordon is solid,he just had shite around him last year.

I'm not sure Gordon is equipped to play out from the back, but I'm OK with him if he can.