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The 0-4 gubbing at home against Aberdeen has knocked the stuffing and the confidence right out of us and Alfred looks completely clueless as to how to rectify it. He’s not helped himself with his team selections particularly yesterday.

What's went wrong since? Alfred has had 6.5 more weeks on the training pitch with the squad.

Folk maybe thinking why I am mentioning this but it was only 6 1/2 weeks ago. 6 of the starting line-up started yesterday and we gave the bundesliga leaders a right game of it for 60 mins. Paulsen JGR. JKL. WILSON. LONGELO LOWRY. HODGE. FADINGER MASWANHISE SEB P-H. SAID what i am trying to say is we were playing good football then and we were all happy with the transition. Now I don't know what has went wrong since. Hopefully no internal issues and just needing one good result to get us back on track. Ever the optimist.........COYW

Stephen Welsh. Just checked out the Swansea City fans forum. would say Welsh is the best CB we have had in a very very long time. He has ages on the ball and his passes can almost unlock a team 2/3 times a game. Felt chuffed he was 'made ' in Motherwell . Needed a lift after yesterday.

Awwww shucks

You are funnier than those two.

So, in that aftermath of that drivel, Alfred comes out with this: “We believe we picked the right starting XI.” Bloody hell.

Bit harsh on Raymond and Tam 🤣🤣

The most unfunny comedy gig ever.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/teams/motherwell AJ explaining why Willy started. I am sure the lad is working hard in training but his confidence totally shattered now though granted he didnt show anything yesterday. The one in 2nd half where Tierney outpaced him said it all

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I will only ever boo once again in my entire life, it will be firmly rooted at Grizzly. Stand up and joke for Motherwell gig - to be confirmed. Starring Raymond Mearns, Tam Cowan and welcoming Grizzly G.

As others have said, the reaction to Vogts substitution was probably more aimed at the management team particularly due to the timing of the second goal. That being said, for a professional footballer to offer up that level of intensity and performance on and off the ball, I can see why some fans were pissed off.

If i ever done a stand up gig at fir park the booing would be 10 times worse ( minimum) 🤣🤣

Actually a good point pal, never thought about that. If Willy's confidence was low its absolutely shattered now

Only ever booed once in my life at the team, but it was firmly rooted at the manager. Motherwell 2 St Mirren 3 - 12th May 2007.

Absolutely all 100% true. But those booing need to give their head a wobble. No one ever got better by being booed off the park. Booing the team or the manager or even the officials at the end of the match is all fair game. Singling a player out, who is already struggling for confidence is such a bad look.

Agreed Grizzly. No point in getting on at the lad himself if he's struggling badly. No one booed him around me although a few critised the manager.

Maybe some fans were sarcastically applauding the manager for finally taking Vogt out of the firing line. A firing line he should never have been put in in the first place, given he’s clearly not good enough. It’s absolutely shite man management, to the detriment of both the player and the team.

Yup, made no sense when Said, JT or Kanga could have played that role. The reaction of some though when he got subbed I just didnt enjoy. Yes we all agreed he had to come off but for folk to be on thier feet sarcastically clapping I just dont agree with.

Vogt was hung out to dry by AJ. I quite get that he'd want to boost the lad's confidence by handing him a starting slot, if he'd shown up well in training. Nothing wrong with that. However against Celtic? It simply wasn't the game to do that. A bad call pure and simple.

Just all very depressing just now. The atmosphere was so flat yesterday but losing an early goal doesn't help. It's not the poor lads fault but I think when we all saw Vogt in starting line-up it almost sucked the energy out us. But at same time we aren't seeing what is happening at training so AJ must have had his reasons. I cant fathom though why change wasnt done at half time

It takes a fair bit for a team with lots of new faces to gel ,a few months at least, adding a new manager to that it may take longer.The surprising thing is how well we had done early season for it to fall away quite a bit recently. Hopefully things will come together once more games are played and not get more disjointed. We must stop giving away early cheap goals to start with.

Last 5 mins summed up the day. We get a free kick at edge of box, Faddy lines up and plays it right across 18yd line to sellik player

Some good insightful posts from Wellhighlander and Joe. Another post which caught my eye on P & B was one by Handsome Devil. It focuses on our good early season form and our subsequent slump. I attributed this phenomenon earlier to AJ having little time to change things but HD put a slightly different slant on it. Due to injuries, AJ had little scope to chop and change and was severely limited in terms of team selection. Now that players are returning, we have a bigger fit squad and decisions have to be made about who to pick and who to leave out. Perhaps thats why he's struggling. Normally it takes a manager 2/3 months to find his best formation, especially if a number of diverse new players arrive. However, at the moment we have little idea about our best defence; the midfield is a disorganised mess; and attacking options are also unclear. I fear Priestman's return, although a bonus in theory, might exacerbate that confusion. HD rightly points that we have good players but they're not playing together; not as units. Is it simply lack of training or something else - not buying into whatever system AJ is trying to introduce?