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  1. Let's leave the discord here please folks.
  2. Being the nosey bugger I am I noticed Motherwell trending on Twitter. Some good entertainment to be had watching our fans fight amongst themselves, fight with Rangers fans, be belittled by both Rangers and Celtic fans and belittle Rangers and Celtic fans. Nothing different to any other day I hear you say. One tweet did stick out though as regards the mention way earlier about Shane Ferguson. Stellar club we are and all but we surely don't have English Championship players, with the rewards which that playing in that league can bring, threatening to go on strike to join us do we?
  3. I wouldn't dismiss the sell on fee for Kipre just yet. It remains to be seen how severe their situation is, what interest there is in them and how the look to re-shape. There will be vultures swooping attempting to take advantage of their situation but not all of those bids will be accepted - I remember Kilmarnock trying to sign Martyn Corrigan for buttons and being hunted when we were in administration. It may be as one of the younger members of their squad there will be other players on bigger wages who Wigan will look to move on first, and again it could mirror our own situation where some of those with potential with a view to maximising their value further down the line if they maintain progress.
  4. We're all just going to take the Daily Record's account at it's absolutely not at all sensationalist word are we?
  5. Sure, things hadn't been great in the run up to the League Cup game. Only wins since the opening day were a 1-0 win over Killie from a penalty and scraping past East Fife in the previous round of the Cup. We'd also lost to Hamilton on the Saturday. For the Morton game Moult, McDonald, Lasley and Ainsworth were all on the bench and only a 90th minute equaliser took it to extra-time. We still managed to blow it and lost 3-2. There was a side story of the police and stewards being completely OTT whilst all this was going on but that's another story. Barraclough was dismissed pretty quickly in the days following the game and it emerged that there had an altercation in the dressing room which was mooted to have been a factor with punches having said to have been thrown. I don't know if names were actually confirmed but Lionel Ainsworth and Stephen Robinson were speculated to have been two of those involved.
  6. The Fletcher reference is a statement of fact rather than any slight on his abilities. As Melvin has alluded to, but for the injury who knows how their respective Motherwell careers may have turned out. I would personally disagree with you on the selection element for Inverness. Of course I can only speak for myself but having seen neither of them before the pre-season games I took in (Livingston rings a bell) to me even then Moult looked the more impressive of the two. On fans refusing to give him a chance and the comparison with McCall that's an interest point to consider but by the same token we should remember there was a lot of goodwill and admiration for him as we went into the new season for managing to keep us up and the manner of those play-off victories.
  7. The Fletcher injury which kept him out for a few weeks made that particular decision for him I think and when Moult started scoring he never looked back. But Bara had McDonald there signed Clarkson, Moult and Fletcher and then within a couple of weeks of the season starting signed Robinson too. There comes a point when having options becomes throwing mud at a wall and seeing if something sticks. But yeah the Fletcher/Moult thing is a bit of your sliding doors type moment isn't it.
  8. And chose Wes Fletcher ahead of him.
  9. He deserves to be fondly remembered for guiding us through the play-offs, but by the same token he's lucky he has that play-off to be remembered fondly. Without the play-offs you are looking at a massive turnover of players that delivered only slightly less inconsistency than the manager before him before nosediving when he had his stamp on the team. When you reflect on it it seems most unlike Motherwell to get rid of a manager so early in his tenure and before September was even out but putting yourself back in the time it certainly seemed the right thing to do. It was dire in the few months of that new season. He was backed and was allowed to bring in a number of players in January and he was similarly backed in the summer and signed player after player after player but with seemingly no idea what his strongest team was. Results and performances were largely awful. Getting out of jail at East Fife on a night he endured some of the most stinging abuse at close quarters I've heard a Motherwell manager receive at a game suggested he'd lost some of the support even then. Meekly losing a third successive derby at Hamilton. And the Cappielow result and subsequent events in the dressing room was obviously the final straw. It wasn't a surprise at all that corrective action was taken. But, all that other stuff has largely faded and we're left with the memories of two of the most memorable wins of that era so he'll always have a special place. Good old stegosaurus fan Baraclough.
  10. True, as a consequence of an unprecedented situation. That's a wee bit away from "always announcing cuts" though.
  11. The cuts that saw an increase in the playing budget last season?
  12. I think because there is a structure, a shared responsibility and a strategy concerning the signing of players that would continue regardless of who the manager is. The aim of trying to recruit players for free, or for relatively modest sums, and in time sell them on at some profit is well known. To deliver those players is Martin Foyle (Gary Owers I think) our Director of Recruitment and his team of scouts in combination with the manager. The manager will of course dictate a preference, I would very much assume would have final say but I think anyone in the manager's role at Motherwell will have taken the role in the full knowledge, and will have to invest fully in what is expected from them when it comes to player recruitment.
  13. It remains to be seen what shape the squad is in in once things kick off but as it stands there seems as much continuity and hopefully an assurance of what level they are at, for as long as I can remember. As is stands from a team that was third we've had a not far off a like-for-like change in goal. We've replaced a experienced centre-half that had a couple of seasons in the top flight, with a younger centre-half who has had a couple of seasons experience in the top flight. O'Hara is back and Turnbull will be like a new player. If Long re-signs then it's a pretty settled looking team. Of course the transfer window hasn't even opened yet so....
  14. I can't claim to know the full process involved in a player signing a contract and it getting to the point where it is legally binding but it would seem not to have been fully concluded otherwise Richard surely wouldn't have been able to join St Mirren or would he have some kind of case against the club for reneging on agreed terms. It remains to be seen whether the club will choose to respond and we may be in a better position then to judge if Motherwell have acted if not illegally, but in poor spirit, but boot on the other foot it won't have been the first time a player has committed to the club but then made a last minute decision to change their mind and do something different leaving the club high and dry. Time will tell I suppose.
  15. I'm not sure there's quite the evidence to suggest that is common place on how things are undertaken. Indeed we only have Tait's word things went down as they did in this particular instance. But what we do know is that a number of supporters were keen for the club to furlough players as soon as was possible to reduce the expected losses resulting from Covid-19. Seeking to renegotiate as yet uncompleted contracts to take account of that unprecedented situation is another. And let's not forget too that in the same batch of out of contract players a short term contract was offered to an injured player in Charles Dunne who had yet to regain fitness as was the case the season before with Craig Tanner when in both cases they could quite easily have said thank you and goodbye.
  16. At the current moment in time we're a more attractive option than St Mirren I'd agree but I wouldn't go so far as to say choosing them over us is insanity, particularly if you are going to get a similar or slightly better deal. It has already been rightly stated the competition there is in our midfield. Remember it was about three or four months before O'Hara got anywhere near our starting eleven (admittedly he was injured for a spell). McGinn via Hibs is now one of the hottest properties in midfield the country. Lewis Morgan won a move to Celtic. Stevie Mallan moved from St Mirren to an English Championship side so there's a pathway to progression there too. Kilmarnock and ourselves even following the second place finishes illustrate how quickly the provincial teams can go up or down the table. Whilst ofcourse they cannot offer European football I don't think the gap is anywhere near big enough to suggest it would be insanity to go there.
  17. I suppose there are several hundred thousand of pounds worth of reasons why even though McKinstry and McAlear barely kicked a ball in anger for the first team, so there's definitely a point. All they can do is develop players and hope that more of them go down the Scott and Turnbull route where a transfer fee will be achieved along as well as first team games rather than the McKinstry and McAlear route but even then if the players are of sufficient quality there will compensation fees and a further boost to the reputation of the club's Academy, which has its own benefits.
  18. Absolutely. I don't know if anyone caught the Scottish Football Marketing Podcast where Grant Russell is interviewed. There's a discussion around the club's goal for a season and how that is communicated and returned to, again and again throughout the season with the successful results achieved from it. It is exactly the same with referencing the financial position.
  19. Great stuff! Glad to see you on the mend.
  20. Brilliant. That's great to read.
  21. They do them up to 5XL. I'm errr....told....
  22. You're not wrong. But there some kind of UEFA regulation in European competition that apparently prevents it rather than it being done through choice if that offers some consolation.
  23. Andy_P

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    At a guess I would think adult standard is just an adult whereas the family would be the adult +1 free in the Hunter and O'Donnell stands or the adult + 2 free in the Cooper deals.
  24. Was it possibly the other way around? We went into the 2010'11 season with no sponsor and I think there was the option to latterly have the sponsor added. A good number, chose not to.

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