David

I don't understand why we're talking about O'Donnell as if he's some inconsistent roll of the dice type signing? He's the club captain, Scottish internationalist and pretty much a mainstay if he's fit. His inclusion isn't up for debate if he's fit and available I don't think.

Well, if our current record so far this season is a result of us struggling against most teams, then long may it continue.

Me too. I didn't think the Celtic game was the time to start him, in all honesty.

There's an argument for Justin to come in for sure, I'm just saying that we can't judge Goss solely on his performance against Celtic.

I'm saying that Clarke will base his choices, including O'Donnell and Kelly, on more than one game against Celtic 4 weeks before our next Scotland game. There's a lot of football to be played before he has to make that choice, and we know he likes to stick with his regulars as best he can.

That's an unfair game to judge him on though. He's looked decent in the flashes I've seen of him previous to the weekends game. He deserves a chance against a side that isn't Celtic or Rangers.

Anyone thinking that the manager is going to voluntarily drop O'Donnell for Mugabi is mental.

We will struggle against better sides with quality, because we're a side with limited quality. Surely that's a given? If we beat teams like Dundee, Ross County and Livingston we'll be fine, and if we happen to secure results here and there against the likes of Hearts, Hibs, Dundee United and Aberdeen then we could be pushing for top six. Thus far this season we've lost to Hibs, Hearts and Celtic in the league. Beaten Livingston away, Dundee, Aberdeen and Ross County at home while drawing away to St Johnstone and Rangers. If we progressing at this clip we shouldn't have any relegation worries this season, which would be nice, and could be pushing for top six. You think so? O'Donnell dropped and when the media ask Clarke about it he'll say something along the lines of "well, remember when he made a pigs ear of the first Celtic goal in that game a month ago? You know the one? I know, he's played four games since then, but still."

So, Tony Watt, eh?

Nothing wrong with travelling abroad to follow your country for a piss-up. Let's be honest, we're never going to win anything at international level, so it's about the good memories with friends and family, enjoying yourself, and grabbing those rare wins that really matter when you can. Absolutely no issue with anyone who doesn't follow international football, and don't agree with the poster who drew comparisons with the Old Firm fans, but everyone has different reasons for following the football, be it club or country.

I don't think anyone on here actually went through the games and compiled the stats though, they were simply shown to us. And that's what would be interesting. Besides, people compile stats for all manner of things. What cannot be denied is that those particular stats, if true, are very interesting, and would certainly back up a lot of non-OF fans views that the officials are somewhat biased, be it unintentional or not.

It's not an obsession, it's simply pointing out, using stats, that what many of us suspect is most likely true. They're given the benefit of the doubt by match officials more often than not when compared with the other clubs in the league. I find it baffling why anyone would look to try to explain it away and make it look as if our fans are mental and strange for even pointing it out

I don't think Gallagher lost focus or interest in us due to his international call-ups. He lost interest because he was focused on moving elsewhere for more money.

Imagine if O'Donnell had performed defensively the way Patterson did? The knives would be out.

Well, it was always going to be tough for Watt to get called up, especially with the amount of goals from the strikers we have in our national team at present...