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Not to white knight Ciftci here but the version we had this season probably needs a bit of context. He's clearly not a gym bro in the same way that many of our squad are and it's fair comment to say that he's erm, not blessed with natural fitness but it's worth mentioning that Rodgers left him out of Celtic's pre-season training camp last summer, he didn't sign for Plymouth until 21st August so missed their pre-season as well given their league season started 5th August. By all accounts Adams signed him for Plymouth and had no idea what to do with him. He picked up an injury playing for Plymouth's u20s in mid-October and his spell with them amounted to 8 appearances and 537 mins of first team football in 6 months. When he signed for us he had 19 minutes of football since mid-September. His two loan spells previous to Plymouth amounted to: 373 mins (Pogoń Szczecin) and 883 mins at Eskişehirspor where he had 4 goals in 12 appearances. His time and lack of opportunities as a Celtic player is pretty well documented. So the upshot of that is you're talking about a player who hasn't had regular first team football since he left United in July 2015. So, that's a player who arrived at Fir Park with no pre-season to speak of save kicking about with Celtic's u20s last summer and has had no regular first team football for going on 3 years. It's probably fair to say that his fitness would have been a pretty low base when he arrived (and probably still is as a result). The St Johnstone game earlier in the month was his first start for us since the end of February (so going on 2 months). The "fat Turkish waiter" shouts were still with him at United but I don't think anyone on here would deny that he was a very effective player for them. Similarly it's surely no coincidence that his best form tied in with him playing regularly and being a valued member of the squad/team. Which is presumably what Robinson is offering him if it's true that we're in for him. My take is that he's clearly a naturally talented (if not a naturally fit) footballer who needs to be playing regularly to get the best out of him. While we've got plenty players who will graft and put in a shift we don't have many gifted players around the squad and such are our resources the pool of players with natural ability who will be accessible and want to come to Fir Park is going to pretty limited and there are undoubtedly going to be caveats there. Long story short, I'm well up for us signing him.

I want Ciftci signed up. There's a terrific footballer there and Robbo will be able to get the work rate out of him. Having grafters and honest lads is great and an essential part of a squad, but you need guys, mavericks even, to add that bit of quality that the others don't have. It's these guys people pay to watch. It will be glorious to watch him score us the winner in the 2019 SC Final against Celtic.

Cards on the table here, lads. I love big Nadir. Get him signed.

there is as well a difference between being fit and being match fit, the fitness required for 90 minutes of 11 a side football is completely different to normal fitness. Even more so for a player who hasn't went through a proper pre season, it took Scott Mcdonald the best part of 6 months of week in week out football before he looked anywhere near match fit. If the chance does arise to sign him, absolutely we should be taking it.

You sure thats no just flatulence??

It's probably something that's inherent in football culture in this country where if someone doesn't run about enough they are deemed to be unfit/lazy/disinterested. There's something about players that have the ability but look like they're not breaking sweat that I love watching. Obviously different standard but Berbatov is one of my favourite players ever and he rarely looked like he gave a toss, but still played the game like it was the easiest thing in the world.

If I was Chris Cadden I'd be looking to leave Motherwell this summer. I think he's an absolutely cracking boy and despite his limitations a very useful player for Motherwell who I'd be delighted to have here for as long as possible. It's painfully clear however that he's at best stagnated since he burst onto the scene 2 and a half years ago. If he harbours any ambitions of being more than a decent Scottish Premiership player then he's going to have to improve several areas of his game- namely his technique, decision making and final ball. I'm not sure playing Right Back in a Stephen Robinson 3-5-2 is the best way to remedy this. This isn't a slight on Robinson- who I'm a massive fan of- and finding a formation that suits the rest of the team, sees us safe from relegation, in 2 cup finals and rock solid defensively is obviously more important than shoehorning Chris Cadden into his best position. It's also testament to how admirably Cadden has performed out of position all season. Again, from a Motherwell point of view, I'd love Cadden to stick around but I'm not sure if it's the best course of action for the sake of his career.

Yep. Even after 28 years still miss going to the games. Although time May have blurred my memory on how effen miserable it can be sometimes in the dead of winter

Have the Well Society considered any partnerships like this Fansbet one that helped Shrewsbury fund their safe standing area? From what I know, Fans Bet is an online gambling company which links to clubs and to fund supporter projects with 50% of their net profits. http://www.safestandingroadshow.co.uk/news/fansbetsponsorshiptopsoffcrowdfundingsuccess

I see you are still persisting with this "he's a fat bastard and needs to diet" pish it's Nadir's turn now but I recall you spouted the same shite against Higdon the year he finished top scorer and won the player of the year title in the league, so why not wrap it until you have something sensible to add.

She told me to use my code when i got home to link my account to the kid season ticket. When i said i didnt have a code i could see a frustrated, almost roll eyes look. It was pretty clear that the staff are aware its an issue. To be fair to her, she was great. Sorted me out, gave me the codes i needed, took payment. But it doesnt really fix the lack of communication issue sadly.

Ciftci is silky as fuck. Knock a few pounds off him and he will tear defences in the SPL a new arsehole. Some of the stuff he was doing against Hamilton was outrageous and to be honest thats what I want to pay to watch. His rabona pass in the middle of the park against Accies was one of my highlights of the season.