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Looking forward to seeing the poor cunt unveiled outside the Brass Button3 points
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Plenty words of wisdom being spouted on here as usual...but for me, Tait has made a total arse of his contract situation and hes made an arse of himself by trying to make the club look bad. Going by the two statements, it's pretty easy to see that Tait, is the 'bad guy' and that disappoints me, as I liked him a lot3 points
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We don’t change the badge because the stuff depicted Isn’t there anymore. If anything, that makes the badge even more important.2 points
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Going public is petty and unprofessional. These days, the first thing an prospective employer does is google a candidate. If they find you bad mouthing even an ex-employer on Twitter there's a good chance your CV is getting filed in the bin. What happened here is no different to the other thousands of contract negotiations that happen every day. Many of them break down for many reasons and both parties just move on. The guy is lucky he's working in an industry that is back up and running. Lots of people who had been contributing to his wages are out of work and looking at long term unemployment; especially other self-employed contractors not covered by the furlough payments. I don't know if it was him or his agent that thought going public was a good idea, but given the current environment it was pretty tone deaf.2 points
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Probably a coincidence, but I'm sure it'll be used to run a 'local lads who understand the area' type player branding thingy at some point through the season. It's all smoke and mirrors which I for one will 100% buy into.1 point
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I think it was necessary. Part of attracting players is the clubs reputation on how you'll be treated if you sign. From the outside we look like decent employers who will look after you if you've got a long injury, give older players career routes into badges / coaching etc. This all factors into which club players choose to sign for and if he's damaging that reputation by being conservative with the truth then it should be put right. Also, he's the one that chose to put his own contract negotiations into the public domain so I think the club were free to respond. Aye, it's not our usual style, but I wouldn't say it's particularly emotive or unprofessional. Out of the 20-odd paragraphs there's one line "we are disheartened".... the rest is more or less a statement of fact.1 point
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That's all very well and good, and that doesn't make him the bad guy....spouting off in the media and trying to spin it in the direction of the club is what makes him look bad1 point
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Almost certain the squirrels in Kilmarnock's badge have since died, should probably get rid.1 point
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Exactly. If every club changed their badge based on current industry we'd all just have call centres as a logo.1 point
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If I were to reject a contract at my work then return the said rejected contract months after the event then I would be rightly ridiculed and told to fuck off. There's no industry I can think of that would accept such mincing about from staff during contract negotiations. He's gambled on a new deal and lost. It's on him and agent and no one else. It's not as if Covid 19 came out of nowhere either so I'm not buying that. Has he failed to watch the news , read the papers or online since November 2019? We had contract renewals at our workplace on April 1 due to IR35 and every single person was shiting themselves that they weren't going to be in a job due to Covid 19 so I can't believe a footballer would allow such a situation to develop especially when they have offers on the table.1 point
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Completely agree. Tait has told the club he's not signing the contract, then he realises the season is ending and he has come running back saying "I've signed it, I've signed it!!" Fuck him.1 point
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Why? It looks to me like the club were just clarifying their side of the story after Tait went public with his? Let's not make excuses for him, he's a big boy. No one is fooling him into making statements that he doesn't believe. This lies squarely with the player, not the agent. Blaming the agent is an easy cop-out.1 point
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My opinion is if Tait had signed contract when it was offered it would have been honoured but he rejected it which is his choice . He then signed previous contract offer when Covid 19 hit but Motherwell at this time could not honour old terms so offered less ,again it’s up to them as both parties need to sign contract for it to be binding .Tait then refuses new terms and leaves again it’s his choice . Nobody is in the wrong imo here ,Tait refused original terms then changed mind and accepted them but by then Motherwell,s financial situation had changed so they offered different terms . The problem is Tait then moans to press about it which means Motherwell have to reply as 2 sides to every story as sure everything Tait said was true ,but he conveniently missed out part he refused contract initially and only signed once season suspended . Time to move on now he’s no longer a Well player but would have been better fir all concerned imo if he had said nothing at all as does seem to be having a go at club over not honouring a contract he had actually turned down . In any occupation if you get sent a new job contract and decline it you can’t expect to be able to change your mind weeks later due to a change in circumstances and expect it to be honoured unless both parties are still happy to proceed on same basis .1 point
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Not sure he did offer a balanced view though, he turned down the offer then changed his mind when he realised Covid was going to make life difficult for many players. By that time the club was in a different position and offered lower terms.1 point
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He didn't offer a balanced view though. He accused the club of being underhanded and disrespectful whilst leaving out some pretty relevant details of how the negotiations were concluded. He took a gamble and this time he's lost. That does not mean we have anything to apologise for. No great loss anyway, his legs were well and truly gone.1 point
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Ffs the guy was interviewed on radio and aired a perfectly balanced thought, there’s not much to it , he was happy to stay on the terms offered but by time he accepted, the club’s position had changed , he felt wronged and choose to move on, that’s perfectly ok, the club changing the offer is also fully understandable, imho, as soon as it was known the original offer should have been withdrawn, but I can understand during a pandemic that there were fast moving and changing scenarios that prevented the formal cancellation of the original offer There doesn’t have to be good guy bad guy in every event, if anything the players explained he wanted to stay but felt he couldn’t on his principles and the club have explained why , the emotions should have been left at that1 point
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I don't think anyone did anything wrong in regards to the contract per se, I can see both points of view, but our statement seems a bit petty especially when it's going on about being 'disheartened' and 'accusations'. I don't think we should be going public on this at all but if we are the club should be above emotional language in press releases. Also what do other players think when they see a history of a former colleagues contract negotiations plastered all over the press? Probably aren't that impressed. I wouldn't be.1 point
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We signed Tait from “non league”Grismby who ironically had just beat ForestGreen Rovers to get promoted To the football league......Tait had only played one season in the football league 14/15 Cambridge prior to signing for us..........NathanMcGinley has never played non league football Rumour I heard he was obsessed with becoming a personal trainer ............was warned repeatedly about spending to much time in the gym bulking up in the gym.......only saying1 point
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I love Richard Tait and i'm sad to see him go, but if that's his honest benchmark for what looking fit and playing well is, then perhaps the outcome is best for all concerned.1 point
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I really enjoy working with mixed media. This is a painting of Motherwell legend Joe Wark I did in 2015. It was initially created in water soluble pastels. However, it has been worked on digitally as well. The final result is a part ‘analogue’ part digital painting. Joe was my football hero as a kid and I was lucky enough to meet him on a few occasions. The signature I used on the drawing was scanned from a card Joe signed for me back in the 1970s. Joe sadly passed away at the age of 67 following a battle with dementia Joe made 539 appearances for Motherwell from 1968 to 1984, under seven different bosses, and dedicated his footballing career to the Fir Park side. After his retirement he became an ambassador for the club. My mixed media painting has lay dormant on my hard drive for nearly 5 years. The plan was to print a small run on fine art paper with all the proceeds going to the Remember Well dementia charity. However, after several failed attempts to get in contact with them I’ve put the project on hold. I think I’ll have another attempt at contacting them as I quite like the painting.1 point
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