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They apparently only have five self isolating and it might be five squad players for all we know. Christie had 14 days because that is the restriction in Scotland. The Kilmarnock players supposedly had 14 days as well but Dyer said they had a couple of training sessions which makes no sense. As I said before the SPFL chickened out of setting a hard precedent with Killie and now everyone will push it as far as they can.

not if , follow up testing (and the shortened isolation periods allowed by the elite sports protocols due to test frequency ) declares enough players available. It’s pretty concerning at the significant lack of understanding displayed by so many individuals in this and on other some social media threads im not sure if it’s just because of the football competition that folk are losing general common sense or if as some have mentioned it’s just confusing and perhaps people are clutching at anything to justify behaviours (of others and themselves) it’s like the new football handball rules , they are ridiculous because associations are trying to put absolute definitions to fluid events. close contact does have some definitions documented out there that refer to distance and time, but those are nearly always related to tracing more general contacts in public, if you just spend a moment thinking about it (and read the documented most likely forms of transmission) momentary face to face conversations are one of the highest risks (hence shields and masks for public interactions at points like tills) then touch contact and it goes on from there , the notion that the virus waits 15 minutes to transfer is not even notionally realistic, but in terms of tracing the tracers will question about direct close contacts and then for the less traceable interactions they have to call on the definitions that some above have quoted. Footballers by the very nature of the job , are at high risk if a team mate or opposition player or even the official have the virus Too many are absolutely convinced the opposition are ‘at it’ and some are then creating scenarios to try and justify it I've no idea if St.Mirren or Killie were at it, I cannot see the real benefit to exaggerating a very serious scenario that could shut their business down. If they have breached any rules I’d hope they are held to account but if st Mirren had a player reporting covid-19 positive on Friday or Saturday, I’m glad they isolated anyone that had been in close contact, to prevent spread to our club , and hope those infected recover, and equally there isn’t any other cases

I've also find it very hard to believe that the entire Kilmarnock squad and backroom staff self isolated for two weeks from the day of our postponed fixture, left the house on Friday for the first time in 14 days then won 3-1 away at Livi 24 hours later.

The SPFL/SFA need to get a handle on this if clubs can just say half their squad have to self isolate it leaves the whole process open to abuse If individual players are being told to isolate by test and trace the evidence needs to be provided as to why that is happen to the majority of the squad as protocols were put in place to stop this from happening. If clubs are not following the protocols there should be punishments. I do not want the 3 points and it’s right that the game should be played whenever possible, but this is going to/is become a farce unless the teams are deducted points for these breaches.

I hate to let facts get in the way of outrage, but you are both wrong. NHS GGC (which covers Paisley), in line with UK Government also considers a close contact someone you've been within one metre of for one minute, having a face-to-face conversation, skin-to-skin contact. You are thinking of the track and trace apps, which use a 2 metre / 15 minute algorithm for the initial contact tracing via bluetooth. The contact tracers then get more details directly from the person who has tested positive and apply the full range of "close contact" rules.

I’m hesitant to start the finger pointing as I’m sure this won’t be the last outbreak at a club, and it could very well be us next. If so, I’d like to think we weren’t trying to pull the wool and so unless these league inquiries show that’s what St Mirren and Killie have been doing I’ll reserve judgement. On a separate note, do one of the St Mirren players not live with one of the Hamilton players?

Craig Tanner scored for Aldershot yesterday, good to see him back playing again.

No point in discussing with lunatics, if you don’t believe ‘others’ have to isolate after a positive test result , you’re clearly a pair of moon howlers The players at any club aren’t operating as individuals, they have to interact as groups , the protocols can reduce risk of transmission, but even in highly controlled environments there is still transmission. and at very least the group they were operating in has to isolate

All the hatred and screaming for points comes from a total distrust and literally made up scenarios, with no evidence and not even indicative sources. St.Mirren have another outbreak, no surprise further testing reported other positive results IF they then isolated additional players that had been in contact , I thank them for not putting our squad at unnecessary risk, and doing what every expert and fair minded person would want. calling for forfeits or repercussions is madness during a pandemic, what if it’s our team next ? Sure as it’s looking it’ll impact us with fixture backlog, I cannot imagine, that will not be the same for majority of clubs. Certainly st.Mirren aren’t going to be better off in that sense. the best I could hope for is the clubs agreeing to the number of fixtures being reduced, to allow the time to have them played, along with cups, international, European games etc 22 league games seems possible, play each other home and away, maybe even with the split fixtures thereafter. chasing the full league calendar from the outset was madness imho, but hey, it’s the club’s that decide, no point howling about the league

If Griffiths is fit and playing, I'd have him up front with Dykes. He's one of those players that you always feel is going to score against you when he plays us and despite whatever your personal views on him are, he's the best natural finisher we have as a nation.