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Not in a forward thinking footballing world. Age is nothing, the ideal is seen as a career path in nations who are way in front of our own. Ian Cathro at Hearts? Football has evolved, maybe the psyche of some fans should too. Suppose first impressions count, not sure how you conclude he hasn’t that aura about him from the clubs’ social media output. He was fairly open on not making wholesale changes so for me seemlessly transitioning hopefully building incrementally as is club board ethos which is very different to JBA arriving and having to put his stamp on things from the get go.

I take it back what I said that just was the only positive for me to come from the tournament…. That news today was a positive

Well, I've finally finished my personal 100. A very hard and subjective task. Everyone will have different views but I took into account the number of appearances; number of goals scored (where applicable); international recognition; and trophy winners. It was especially hard to rate players I'd never seen in the flesh and those of bygone times, some of whom I hadn't heard of. I had to rely written accounts of our early players. The chances are, if I started again I'd come up with something slightly different. How do you rate someone who made many appearances for our club i.e. a stalwart such as Willie MacCallum against a brief but brilliant "shooting star" like Lennon Miller? Personal bias also came into it. Incidentally, Louis Moult came in at 101. 1 Hughie Ferguson 2 Bobby Ferrier 3 George Stevenson 4 Alan McClory 5 Willie McFadyen 6 Hugh Wales 7 Alan Craig 8 Ben Ellis 9 Willie Telfer 10 Johnny McMenemy 11 Johnny Johnman 12 Johnny Murdoch 13 John Blair 14 Andy Paton 15 Willie Redpath 16 Willie Kilmarnock 17 Archie Shaw 18 Johnny Johnston 19 Jimmy Watson 20 Archie Kelly 21 Johnny Aitkenhead 22 Joe Wark 23 Steve Kirk 24 Davie Cooper 25 Willie Rankin 26 Ian St John 27 Willie Hunter 28 Bert McCann 29 Wilson Humphries 30 Willie Pettigrew 31 Chris McCart 32 Jim Forrest 33 Bobby Graham 34 Dougie Arnott 35 Phil O'Donnell 36 Tom Boyd 37 Charlie Aitken 38 Pat Quinn 39 Andy Weir 40 Tommy Sloan 41 Ally Maxwell 42 Charlie Cox 43 Eli Just 44 Lennon Miller 45 Paul Lambert 46 Craig Paterson 47 Luc Nijholt 48 John Martis 49 James McFadden 50 Scott MacDonald 51 Tom Forsyth 52 David Turnbull 53 Steve Hammell 54 Keith Lasley 55 Stephen Craigan 56 Rab MacKinnon 57 Keith McRae 58 Darren Randolph 59 Joe McBride 60 Brian Martin 61 Martyn Corrigan 62 Colin Hampton 63 Donald Mcleod 64 John Gahagan 65 Duncan Ogilvie 66 Gary MacAllister 67 Stephen O'Donnell 68 Bobby Watson 69 Dixie Deans 70 Iain Gardiner 71 Tommy Coyne 72 KVV 73 Hugh McNeil 74 Craig Brown 75 Willie MacCallum 76 George Nicol 77 David Clarkson 78 Robert Stewart 79 Peter Millar 80 Bobby Russell 81 Willie McSeveney 82 Davie Whiteford 83 Bobby MacCallum 84 Pat Delaney 85 Stephen Pearson 86 Peter McCloy 87 Mio Krivocapic 88 Gregor Stevens 89 Graham Forbes 90 Francis McStay 91 George Robertson 92 Hutton Bremner 93 Bobby Roberts 94 Vic Davidson 95 Gordon Bremner 96 Tommy Mackenzie 97 Dick Little 98 Duncan Finlayson 99 Jackie Hunter 100 Walter Cowan

Bloody hell, the poor guys just in the door, never managed a Super Well game yet, and in a few days before the ‘aura’ is supposed to appear, he can’t have been that bad managing Rosenberg for almost 2 years at 33 so give him a chance, actions speak louder than words as they say, the board took nearly 4 weeks to appoint a manager and we have to trust that their homework got an “A” and AJ can be successful for our wee club. He’s not Jens, so at least give the poor guy even 2 games until we make any assumption!

Hard as it may be, we need to forget about JBA. He`s gone. A new chapter has begun.

Motherwell manager thread.

Read this, went straight to the bbc sports page to confirm it was what I was hoping for and now have a big smile on my face. I will try to keep this respectful but thank fuck he’s gone - John McGlynn please

I see our resident arrogant know-it-all has made a reappearance.

It means absolutely nothing of course in the grand scheme of things, but he's professional enough to at least make it sound like his thoughts are on our Euro campaign.

I'm older and that went right over my head. Just like that Brazil cross when they scored did for Gunn.

I would be most comfortable with Maswanhise going. Not sure what it is, but has a touch of the Theo Bair purple patch about him and would take a decent offer if given. Just is absolutey pivotal for us linking feom decence to attack, and given he's now equalled Larsson's WC record whilst at a Scottish Club, we should be looking for a record fee. Watt similarly is pivotal to how we play Ideally we wouldn't sell all 3 at once, but if the right offers come in, then it safeguard's the Club's future and allows us to speculate/transform areas. The positives are we have a degree of bargaining power given we are cash healthy due to sale of Miller (and others),the above players are inder contracts with Club options and with each one we sell, we can argue the importance of losing the others increases. We obviously have a ceiling in what we can demand, but in a pretty decent place.

I don't think any of our youngsters who left for England with zero first team games had any luck down there. The ones that stuck around to get 40 or 50+ games under their belt had more success.

He comes over really well does Kyrk, it’s so refreshing listening to his outlook and enthusiasm for progressing the club….. it’s just what I need after watching Steve Clarke’s press conference and his IM Jolley demeanour.

Of course. And the point of these lists is, in part, to generate this kind of discussion. He was one of my favourite players, and he did make more appearances for us than Faddy. Would be very boring if we all had the same tastes in football.

Got an email from club today saying no charter si ive booked up. Roughly £700 per head for me and my boy. Day in London on 29th, fly home on 1st August The 29th is a National holiday so its best avoiding day before game as hotels are full and whats left are crazy money. I got a hotel for Thursday/Friday for £182 Didn't go to Sligo so I promised this trip to my boy.

I’ll give him the 2 HB games, if I don’t see improvement from last year, I’m calling for his head.

In fairness, im certain you said you had a bad feeling about the JBA appointment 😜

I think these comments come off the back of the BBC Sportsound article where there was discussion about the importance to players of a good first impression. I suppose a first impression is by definition something you can't define. It's a feeling rather than something more objective. Unfortunately he is going to be compared to Askou and unfortunately for Johansson that is going to be a very difficult act to follow. We all hope he can match Askou's success but the slight nervousness is understandable because Askou has set such an impressive precedent.

Every one a 'Well fan, I believe 🤣........ The original with the guys rocking through Melbourne was pretty good too.

League 1 aside Sheffield Wed are one of the biggest clubs in England. Probably twice the size/support of the majority of premiership clubs. It’s a decent move for him.

To be fair, they're a big club and Will probably expect to get promoted this season. Not denying money is a factor but not like he's going to a smaller club like Mansfield or Leyton Orient in league one where he'd still get more money....

That's not to say that there wouldn't be other interest but bear in mind, Watt only managed 8 games for a St Johnstone team that went down with a whimper. It might be that some teams would want to see if he can repeat last season before spending money on him...

Why are people assuming well sell Watt, Just and Maswanhise all in the same window ?

That all seems fair, just that I'd move Sparrow into the midfield pack. He does alright covering at fullback but it really isn't for him.

Quite a list, send it to Nick Daws in case he has missed any of them on his targets

The incomings i would like to see or players i think we might look at We currently need x2 cbs and CAM and possibly a left back Cbs - jonathan panzo free agent from birmingham city https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jonathan-panzo/profil/spieler/392777 Kieran Ngwenya free agent from dunfermline https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/kieran-ngwenya/profil/spieler/808456 Jermiah chiokoa-mullen free agent from dunfermline https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/jeremiah-chilokoa-mullen/profil/spieler/719681 Mikkel konradsen ceide - 250k from rosenborg contract up at the end of there season 30/12/26 and played for alfred over 60 times while boss there https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/mikkel-konradsen-ceide/profil/spieler/794757 LBs - luke Robinson free agent from wigan https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/luke-robinson/profil/spieler/647376 James maxwell free agent from Doncaster rovers https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/james-maxwell/profil/spieler/606962 Yannick adjoumani - 125k plays in the Swedish 2nd league CAMS - odin Bailey free agent from Stockport https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/odin-bailey/profil/spieler/346485 Benjamin brantlind free agent from IFK Goteborg https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/benjamin-brantlind/profil/spieler/1172441 Anthony kalik free agent from hadjuk split https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/anthony-kalik/profil/spieler/303420 Now on to the potential replacements if certain people leave The watt replacement Santeri Väänänen spent alot of time with alfred at rosenborg and would only cost about 175k https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/santeri-vaananen/profil/spieler/564621 The tawanda replacement Ovie ejara free agent real oviedo https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/ovie-ejaria/profil/spieler/337284 The just replacement Yaya dukuly free agent from adelaide untied https://www.transfermarkt.co.uk/yaya-dukuly/profil/spieler/652487 Obviously these are just who I think we may look at and would be surprised if I get any right 😂

They sought £20m for that bawbag Morelos too.

Clear vibes of “move on, move on, nothing to see here! But if you speak out about this we’re coming down on you” right here.

I’m sure he must have done at some point but personally I have never heard him say one positive thing about Motherwell. considering I watched a couple of seasons pre-cooper of him aimlessly running around midfield, I think I deserve an apology at least.

Sometimes you need to separate the art from the artist. I watched Tom Boyd lift the Scottish Cup, and everyone involved in that campaign should be a candidate. I give zero stuffs what he did after that.

He just missed out! He is down at number 666

I've arbitrarily identified about 105 candidates so far but it'll take quite some time to sort out an order. Criteria, for me, are appearances, goals scored and international appearances. Its obviously difficult to rate players from bygone eras that I've never seen, and avoid recency bias.

Ooh er missus - titter ye not.

He's managed at Rosenborg , he's not a novice...like I say it's the close season for folks.

I'll have a go but there are better qualified posters than me on here. Hopefully it will generate some discussion.

Great call. But what a sad end to his life. Tragic.

Aye i mind once this guy called Alex Ferguson got East Stirling job 32 years old,then went to St Mirren at 35 and I am pretty sure took over at Aberdeen at 36.Turned out to have a decent career from what I heard. Pssst wait till he hears about Julian Nagelsman. Age means nothing he has experience what counts of domestic league and European football.

Don't think my avatar will have same impact. Neither played for well 🤣🤣

I’d have thought George Stevenson would be at number 1 for us. Legendary player in the clubs best ever side, league winner and also manager for our cup wins of the 50s

Need to have my avatar as well. Charlie Aitken.

He's been involved in management for the last 10 years missed out the playing career bit, . He's an experienced guy. Probly more experiance managing than JBA had. He plays an attacking style.

JBA has an aura about him that all successful managers seem to possess. It’s something intangible that’s hard to define or explain, but you know it when you see it I didn’t see much of it in Wimmer, and I don’t see it in Johansson either. Does that mean he’s going to fail? No. We just have to wait and see.

Its soul destroying watching Scotland get to tournaments now and its a non event its focused on the supporters than the team I am so bored with it all I am more invested watching King Eli and New Zealand see how they fair. I have watched every team in action now and we are 100 percent in the bottom 5 for negative tactics. Sad part is it will be the same squad going into next tournament unless they retire cause Clarke will have the mindset of lets go again boys. Hanley before Welsh aye Steve you couldn't pick yer nose its job for my pals.

Bigus Dickus more like

StevusClarkius of the genus shittytacticus.

Announced at Gillingham, I'd consider that further east at least.

Yes, I’d include Russel in that group.

Different Liam Gordon at Port Val.le. Suggestions ours is off to the Far East

The way I look at that point is he's got to where he has despite not having the fame or influence of playing at a high level plus the doubters that come with that. Not many do that, so he surely has something about him. Welcome to Fir Park 🙌

They all booked annual leave at same time? 🤣🤣