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1) terrible pitch 2) 6-7 out injured with 2 more off injured 3) 3 youngsters on at end and Maswanhise playing full game after injury lay off 4) proud as feck, great result

Zinger! .... you've not lost your touch yet quite a pivot from the points I was making Your response is almost entirely conjecture. You've ignored the substance of my post and substituted a series of "what if's". That's your prerogative, but at least acknowledge that you're no longer arguing whether the Major Votes policy applies, you've moved on to speculating about how a future project might be delivered. Is that a sidestep or a stepover? It's certainly not a rebuttal. My post wasn't asking whether you prefer Dalziel Park or Ravenscraig, we're at either end of what is, a distinctly separate debate on this. You have came out supporting upgrading Dalziel Park as the more sensible and financially frugal option, and that's a perfectly valid poistion. The point I raised was about governance. If the club commits to a multi-million-pound project, does the Major Votes policy apply? That is the question you haven't answered. Instead, you've moved the discussion towards hypothetical costs, contaminated land and construction difficulties. Those are legitimate considerations, but they don't address whether the process that was introduced last summer should be followed or the major question marks over ownership and residual value of anything we do at Dalziel Park. As for the research point, there's a difference between evidence and speculation. I've looked at comparable projects, the wording of the policy, publicly available information and the wider context. Your response is largely built around "could", "might" and "possibly". Again, nothing wrong with raising risks, but let's not pretend that is the same thing as researching the issue. Ravenscraig was a steelworks during one of the least regulated industrial periods in this country's history. Of course there are areas where ground conditions may need assessed and have been. There are also thirty three former mine entrances around the Jeviston end. That's actual research. Equally, there are now housing developments on parts of the site, so the suggestion that the area is some unusable contaminated wasteland doesn't stand up. If there are areas unsuitable for buildings, then grass pitches are hardly the most challenging use of land and a good remedy. The reason Ravenscraig has stalled is far more complicated than your "contaminated" assertion. The 2008 financial crisis, the pandemic, political posturing and obstruction, delays around infrastructure, North Lanarkshire Council's handling of the site and the wider lack of investment in the area have all played their part. Halfords and Evans Halshaw were demolished a couple of years ago. The bridge under the railway was built. Where are the roads and roundabout it was supposed to facilitate? So yes, I've researched this considerably more than you have demonstrated. On the point about expertise, I actually agree with you. Motherwell FC does not have a construction team sitting on the payroll capable of delivering a project of this scale. Our chairman used to try and create a buzz about jeans and t-shirts yet he's knocking the football figurehead thing out of the park, I've seen nothing to suggest he won't gen up or delegate to more knowledgeable heads on the matter. That's why construction projects aren't run by football clubs. They employ architects, quantity surveyors, project managers, engineers and specialist contractors for the duration fo the project. No different to when the football department needs expertise, it goes to the market and recruits it. And nobody is suggesting cost pressures don't exist. Inflaton and supply chain issues are real. But projects are still being delivered. Glasgow has cranes everywhere. Developers, councils and businesses haven't stopped building; they have adapted, adjusted scope and found innovative ways to make projects work. I hope you appreciate that we recieve £33 for every adult OF ticket sold at present. We purchase materials at today's prices but in 20 years time with inflation running at 3.1% we receive a significant increase in revenues yet if we seek finance, its based on today's build cost. In 2046 following the past 20 years we're be charging £61. My post was about whether the club is following its own governance policy. Your response is about whether you think Ravenscraig is the right option. Those are two different discussions and by all means ignore the parts of my post you don't have an answer for, but at least acknowledge them for the benefit of the wider audience. Otherwise it gives the impression that you're engaging selectively with the bits that you find easiest to challenge rather than addressing the actual point being made. Although I think this is all moot, the desire to get a training ground complex green lit is to facilitate the demolition of the POD with little things liek the equalisation of season ticket prices throughout the home stands as minor tells. However, as a fan owned club we're doing this in reverse and being told what's happening rather than help mould it.

That's exactly my thinking, which is why I'm not so quick to dismiss some of the players we have in and around the first team already. I do think we have set a very high bar as fans, where we're looking for Turnbull/Miller/Johnston levels otherwise we shouldn't be looking to retain them. We're going to have fringe players. It's how it works for clubs our size who require a decent-sized squad of players. I'd rather those fringe players were our own youngsters than loans or free signings that aren't all that much better in reality.

I think a lot of our fans are comparing what we look like right now to how Jens team was playing October to March. This time last year we had drawn with Clyde, put questionable performances in against Peterhead and Stenny, beat Morton and drew away to St Mirren with barely a shot on target. I actually think we are a bit further along the journey with this squad than we were this time last year. Our horizons have just lifted a little, so we no longer view things the same way as we did post Kettleball. Nothing wrong with that, we should always be striving for better, but we should maintain some realism at the same time.

we weren't lucky to get a draw. Falkirk created absolutely fuck all. We hit the woodwork twice and both Maswanhise and Koutrombis skyed efforts that should have been goals. We didnt deserve to win but by no stretch of the imagination were Falkirk unlucky not to win.

Not to put a downer on a good night and 500 top class fans but the 100 that piled onto the park and bust an advertisement board need a boot in the baws. Thats a fine/potential ban coming!! We can’t be acting holier than thou when other certain fans do it when we are doing the same thing.

If their whole team were denied visas, would we be awarded a 3-0 win by default? Because I might know someone who works in that department...

First time in the new seats in POD. They are terrible. Most uncomfortable seating i have sat in. Obvious this was the cheapest option. Too close , bad design, flimsy and dig into your back. Did they actually do a test with the new seats before installing them . Strip out a few seats and a few rows in a block n see how it went testing under matchday conditions with folk sitting in them.Trying to get past each other when there is folk sitting in the row in front . The back of the seat moves into the passage space behind making it even narrower. With hot food and drinks in their hands people can't pass in front of you . Its a fukin shambles. Wonder how long til someone gets a couple of cups of roasting hot bovril spilt over their head. Seen it almost happen today. Tall guys knees protrude over the back of back rest in front. Folk arriving late and leaving early cause chaos . Some one(probably an older person) is bound to get hurt over the season. This must be classed as an unacceptable risk , if there was ever a fire or a panic it would be chaos . I would love to see the risk assessment for this and access for those with restricted movement. No way there is the same space between the rows as before when occupied. Two skeletons couldn't pass each other safely never mind your average Scottish football fans. Who is responsible for this shambles. Get them to sit in the middle of the centre block for 3 games and then give us an honest opinion. The POD center block has gone from one of the most comfortable seats in the league to one of the worst to watch a game from. Not enough thought went into this before it was carried out. Still to see what happens to my knees when we sc0ore a goal Official line seems to be if you don't like it then move. Fair enough ????

Not posted in a while. Watched the last four games on the tv. We look class. Also the new keeper is superb. The amount of saves he has made already is ridiculous. His handling is also excellent.

I actually like them, I think they bring a great atmosphere and I love the TIFOs ( or attention seeking knobbery lol) I think it’d be a sh1ttier atmosphere without them. I just draw the line at pitch invasions and battering advertising boards. High emosions or not, stay off the fkn park.

It's short for "tifosi", which is Italian for "attention seeking knobbery".

It's difficult to tell when nobody ever laughs...

I saw him at my gym earlier this year on a Monday after a game on the Sunday. Clearly it was his day off but he was battering it on the treadmill for about an hour. i have to say with me coming from an era of players going to the pub or bookies on their day off, I was impressed

He must be fittest guy at club, never stops. Not sure right back his best position but he is slotting in well

The fact we are this far along and there has been no sign of us getting the top end of the pitch dealt with is somewhat worrying. Would like to see at least 1 AM and 2 striker options minimum.

And if someone of that level is available, happy to play that role at a club like ours, and their salary reflects said role, then fantastic. Until we find someone, though, I wouldn't be moving Wilson out, because we'd only need to scramble to fill that gap and would likely end up with another no-name loanee who passes through Fir Park as so many have in the past. I also think Wilson is pretty much past the stage of "getting a chance" with us. He's played almost 50 games. He's at over 100 professional games. He is what he is. Which, to me, is a decent enough fringe player for a club of our size. He's a fairly versatile left-sided player and can do a job when required. How many managers has he been here under now? He's also had three contract extensions, so the club obviously see something in him. The truth is, we're Motherwell, not Man City. We most likely can't expect to have many players coming here who are happy to sit on the bench and try to force their way into the team. That's why in the past we've gone for late loans along the lines of Osong, Hegyi, Plange, Dickson, Tavares, and Buyabu to fill those fringe player gaps. I'll take someone like Wilson or Ross over those types of signings every day of the week. Ross has played fewer than 50 or so career games as a professional. Most of them came for Annan on loan. This has nothing to do with him being a nice guy (he might be an arsehole for all we know!), and it's more about the idea that we're in a position to give a kid who's just turned 20 years old and has played a small number of games for us the bullet for "failing to convince"? Jesus Christ, I know the standing joke is that we don't give players time to show what they have, but that's harsh in my book! Whyte is a different proposition altogether from what I've heard. There's talk of him being good enough to actually get into the first team and become a regular. That's a bit of an unfair comparison to a few guys who I have said are basically fringe players at this stage. You also mention Miller, Turnbull and Johnston. So that's the bar for a young player being considered worth a contract? You either have to be one of the top youngsters we produce in decades, or you're out the door and deemed not good enough? It seems if you were in charge, we'd have a squad of 13 players, because if someone is basically only good enough to be a backup, they're not good enough to retain. We don't need backups. We need a squad full of top-quality prospects and first-team-ready players, correct? Absolute insanity. Yes, but the question is "good enough" in what way? And for what? If someone isn't good enough to be a first eleven player they should be moved on? Christ. Anyway, I think we've both covered all our points, but I'm glad you're not calling the shots 😂

Look, I'm not saying Wilson is anything special. But he's 21 years old, he's closing in on 50 games for us altogether, and he's played over 100 career games in Scottish football. By my count, we have a decent number of defenders on the books, and throughout the season we'll see varying levels of availability depending on injury and suspension, so someone like Wilson could be useful to plug those gaps while also seemingly willing to not play for longer spells when availability is higher. If we decide tomorrow that he's not progressed enough and we want to move on, who fills that gap? Do we pay money for a player to come in and fill that role? Or, more likely, do we find some random from down south with very similar attributes to Wilson to fill the gap on loan? My guess is that the likes of JGR, JKL, Moormann and Williams aren't on buttons salary-wise, so having someone like Wilson as a somewhat versatile squad player, most likely on budget-friendly wages, isn't the worst thing in the world. My choice on when we'd upgrade from him is when another youngster comes through in that position, and we can then plug them in and see if their potential ceiling is higher. Is there someone in the youth setup who fits that criteria that could replace Wilson? If so, get them up and let's see how they do. Until then, I'd rather we kept Wilson than potentially find ourselves short if the injuries pile up, or go down the route of a loan who comes in and does absolutely nothing. On Luca Ross, I see from socials that he's just turned 20 years old. Are we deciding players are no good before they hit 20 years old now? As a comparison, Maswanhise had not played a single game as a senior pro by that age. Paul McGinn was heading into his first full season for Queens Park in the third division. Again, not saying either will become superstars, but we're getting awfully quick to want to pull the trigger on these kids these days.

As seats the new ones are not the comfiest ive sat on but they are passable. The major problem is access, with the old seats you could flip it back and move into the seat space to let people past etc with no issues, now you stand up with nowhere to go and nothing to hold on to, so its a nightmare trying to get in and out of a row. The old yellow bucket seats with no back never had any access issues as people could just step over them, now they are comfier but with the nightmare access issues the other seats have. Fan saftey should be a main priority, ie getting in and out of your seats safely when carrying hot food, people with mobility issues however serious are really struggling to get to their seats I know the pod has limitations and there were tight timescales re the UEFA regulations etc but for me the club failed in its due dilligence, ie nobody actually fitted a few seats in the pod, sat in them, tried to get in and out etc and judged them fit for purpose or not. Now we will be stuck with them for who knows how long, the club dropped the ball on this issue and it needs resolved before we start getting accident or injury reports etc.

Totally agree,says as it is,no dramatics,no blame game,always very balanced and his summary of games is how i see it.

Surprised at some of the negativity regards todays performance. Whilst we were far from our best, misplaced numerous passes and fluffed a number of very decent chances, there was still a lot to like. Maybe a sign of how far last season raised the bar? I thought Falkirk offered nothing first half. Content to spoil the game, commit fouls and go down at every turn. All ably assisted by Chris Graham who must be the worst referee in the league (which is saying something). We should have been a couple up at half time and that would have maybe allowed us some more breathing space as we did tire badly second half. Although not as fluent a performance as we would like there was still some excellent football played. Said was box office first half and some of the stuff he pulls off is ridiculous to watch. The move where JT shot wide whilst having his shirt removed from him would have been even better than last weeks goal of the season entry. Add to that the 2 second half moves spurned by JT and Johnny K and I left feeling that it was 2 points dropped rather than a point gained. The squad is light, we have a lot of games coming thick and fast with not a lot of time on the training pitch right now to bed in the new players and managers ideas. I think by the time we get to the end of the window and things start to calm down, we will be in much better shape.

I would go further and say that I feel that we were worth a win. We created 4 decent chances and played some great stuff at times (albeit fairly infrequently). The football to get JK away for his chance was top drawer, as was the work to get JT the chance that he lashed over from 6 yards out. Falkirk offered nothing to the game and were happy to foul throughout, knowing early on that the ref was useless. They were happy to break up play and wait for us to run out of gas in the final 20mins. No way did they deserve anything from the match. To comment on Motherwell today, I feel that we were generally slow and ponderous in the build up, and our movement in front of the ball is minimal, so making chances is going to be difficult against any well organised team. We need to improve our fitness, to last more than an hour. We need more movement and intelligent movement in midfield and, especially up top. We also really need the few runs that are made to be seen and used. We are very guilty of ignoring forward movement and turning back when forward options are available. I'm hoping that we'll improve with games and familiarity, but I don't think we have the players in place to emulate last season's performances. We need some more quality in the mid and front areas.

Refereeing standards have certainly not improved over the summer.

Exactly this…… I remember saying the same thing about Andy Roddie…. And that all ended up …… oh wait a minute 🫢 im just joking… I’ll give him time-ish

I thought Aldred was great for us

It doesn't matter who ran on the pitch first, last or in between. You aren't allowed to be there, and the club is likely to get fined when you are. It's not complicated.

Hopefully if TJ gets on he will toughen up a bit and not fall over at every wee shove and nudge .

glad to see JT convert the PK but looks like Slattery had a coaching lesson with him before he left. He was annoying the hell out of me falling down way too much.

Clueless on crosses. Has he missed any? Thought he was our best player that half. Our press is disjointed. Main culprits JT Cookie and Voight

I saw that. If true, its certainly a statement. Would be close to a club record fee paid for a player I would imagine. I know we did get a helluva lot more than that for Watt, so the money is there, but even still. Alfred did make a point of saying we would stick to the model that has been successful, so we wont be throwing cash around left, right and centre. But it certainly allows us to target a higher calibre player than we maybe could in the past. Obviously with the caveat we will be hoping to develop Hodge into another Eli Just type fee in a couple of years. Good times.

Caught my eye that 3 of our 5 perm signings came from clubs relegated last season - wonder if that’s partly how we landed them - or perhaps just a coincidence

Just seen the highlights, what a finish! Can't even remember him leaving the centre circle when he was with us.

https://www.motherwellfc.co.uk/2026/08/12/joe-hodge-arrives-for-undisclosed-fee/

We're getting to that age where people start saying "well, he had a good run"

Are you all right pal? Plenty of time for a response to this at least the thread is here 😇 COYW

It’s the youth GK

Vogt looks to have some technical ability and he looks much fitter than he did when he arrived and has a yard of pace. Getting the ball to him at the right time and in the right areas would help, instead of him having to pick the ball out of the sky. Moorman will be massive for us this season. But I also though Knight - Lebel absolutely strolled it yesterday. We look to have brought in 3 very serviceable CHs and thats without McGinn, SOD or Johnny K having to fill in there. I do wonder where McGhee fits into all of this now, even if he could stay fit.

I thought Chris Graham deserved a post all by himself today. He had no major decisions to make, fortunately, but had a very poor game. He was conned by an intelligent and streetwise Falkirk outfit managed well by John McGlynn. So many inconsistencies and I was just glad we escaped with no red cards. How he did not book the Falkirk player for strong arming Paulsen, I'll never know. The foul awarded to Krauhaus (I think) after his shirt pulling with Lowry was totally off the scale. He was weak throughout and allowed Falkirk players to stand in front of the ball at free kicks, even after Yeats was carded. Simple solution - keep carding the culprits and they'll soon get the message. First home game of the new league season and we're already talking about referees! John McGlynn for the Scotland job? No thank you but I wouldn't put it past the blazers at the SFA.

Lot of factors to take in. 1) 2 games a week so some looking tired plus some coming back from injury. 2) falkirk so anti-football and dramatics embarrassing 3) knight-lebel looked the part and with moorman plus girdwood-reich we are well covered in that area. 4) oh johnny k!!! Huge chance But....still unbeaten and sitting 3rd in table. Thursday night HUGE!!!!, Lets all get right behind AJ and lads

90 mins of dross from both teams, shocking referreeing as usual, Falkirk trying to break up and stop the play at every opportunity. Our squad is down to the bare bones we effectively had no midfield 2nd half, TJ is brutal, never looked interested and we had zero threat, Said hitting the bar the only bright spot, Jonny K probably had the best chance of the game and fecked it up. For all the posesstion Falkirk had they were grim , Paulsen never had a hard save to make,that said we are 2 points better off than the same point last season so onwards and upwards, bring on HJK.

No urgency and no fluidity to our play. The options that were always available in all areas of the pitch last year have disappeared . Dreadful display void of any inspiration.

Said will be champing at the bit having had to cool his heels all week. Im sensing a big performance from Captain Chaos! 3-0 Motherwell! Said double and a first for Willy Vogt!

We are just sticking with the old style cards from the last seasons can't go wrong with them .You can pass it on if you can't make the game. Don't know if i would fancy passing my phone to a mate for a full Saturday afternoon to get in if i couldn't go.

As my mate said, his positioning for shots is excellent. All our signings are looking good and way they have integrated into squad is great.

I was yelling at the TV for him to stop doing that but at the very least he needs to drag his arse back up off the ground a lot quicker and get back in the game instead of laying there.

No, I was made in a factory middle aged....im only semi joking when I say bring back national service....Where's my daily mail? If they can take a telling , no real harm done but when and if it costs club money, I get hacked off.

As i have said before my mates lad is part of group and is an absolute diamond and gives great support. The displays and enthusiasm is great but I think just a wee word from club to get them to reign it in a bit. Also our media team need to remember we have about 5,000 season ticket holders and not everything revolves around Block E. We had a passionate support long before they came on the scene. I am sure we can all be singing from same songsheet with regular discussions. We have a well society board member that is close to that section so just a case of keep aff the pitch and no flares which thankfully not been seen since genk friendly COYW

Quite poor from Motherwell. Not able to hold the ball, not moving with any pace or precision, leaving the defensive flanks wide open and absolutely nothing in the final third. Happy that it is still 0-0, but I expect Helsinki will score eventually. We may have to take a 1 or 2 goal defeat here and recover it next week. Let's hope for better in the second half.

Personal view is he’s been one of the better players . seem to remember someone say I like my keepers to come for everything 😉

Yep, £8.48. Was £12 last week and I thought I read it was same again but it’s cheaper this week.