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Honestly, are you even reading what I'm saying? Or just skimming before climbing aboard your high horse? Where did I say the lads in the east stand are all wee angels and innocent? Please, show me where I said that. I'll wait. What I am saying, is that dawn raids have always been the tactics used when a suspect is considered armed and dangerous. Like I said, incidents that usually involve (or where there are suspected) firearms, large amounts of drugs or drug money, or indeed for gangland figures deemed extremely dangerous. Like this, and this. Apart from two other situations. Football fans and refugees. You don't need to like that, but it's what is happening. Like you can see here. For some weird reason football fans seem to find incidents like this acceptable. Where, for example, a 14 year old boy was part of a dawn raid for trouble at a Wrexham game. The charge? Affray. Are you honestly telling me that the cops couldn't have just arrived at the lads door later in the day and taken him into custody? Why the fuck do they need to treat him as though he's holding weapons or drugs? As I said in my posts previously, I'm not claiming any lads involved in violence are innocent. What I am saying is that the tactics used by police are entirely disproportionate to the alleged crimes. If you can't see that, then I don't know what to tell you.

This whole thread is hilarious. 10/10. Would read again.

You're trolling Busta! Despite it being an effective fishing technique, we're not taking the bait haha.

Annnnnnddddd always look on the brrrrrrigghhhhhttt side of life.....Dee Dee....Dee Dee Dee Dee Dee Dee. (is very hard to type a whistle noise) 🙂😉

Well said sir, agree 100%

Each to their own. They look down on many things. I'll stick to this forum warts and all.