Leaderboard

This the St Mirren who lost to Arbroath on penalties in the opening game and only beat Forfar by the same scoreline we beat Peterhead by? The 8-2 was very much an outlier... I agree with your general point that we should be winning these games but this has happened in cup games for as long as I can remember. Smaller teams raise their game. Liverpool got knocked out of the FA cup by Plymouth last season...

I think that just shows the decline in our top level. There used to be cup shocks. Now there aren't really because lower league clubs beat top level clubs all the time in both cup competitions. Non league clubs have beaten Top 5 clubs on multiple occasions in recent years. Our game at the top level has gone into massive decline, and no offense, but you are old enough to know that. 😆

This is a discussion that comes up most years at this time. I remember after a mediocre pre season game against Gateshead a few years back this was a topic of conversation. I don't agree with your view on this. It's pre-season is not an excuse with which to whitewash over the mediocrity of the professional teams in this country. FC Twente showed what a real difference in quality is pre-season or not. The fact is that Motherwell have had the luxury of a week's summer camp in the Netherlands. They have professional players that can rest, prepare, plan for each game. They have Sports Scientists looking after their preparation. The teams that Motherwell, Dundee, St Johnstone are struggling to beat are full of journeymen, part time players, trialists trying to juggle football with other jobs. Motherwell should be beating these teams in the way FC Twente beat us, pre-season or not. What the results above tell us is that St Johnstone, Livi and Dundee are very average professional sides. We seem to find every reason possible in Scotland for accepting mediocrity and managing expectation. St Mirren showed what should be happening in these games.

I might crack a few jokes before then.....that's not unusual 🤪

that's 1/2 points predicted by you in the campaign. hope you don't have a bet365 account

Correct Dave, but looking at the tables there are 4 groups C,D, F and H where potentially the runners up can be better than us both points and goal difference. So we need 3 points on Tuesday to finish as group winners and be assured of progression and seeding in the last 16.

It definitely is because the team simply isn't good enough to expect anything better. There is very little football in that squad and we are badly lacking in defence and up front. Looking at the opening round of fixtures it's hard to see us getting much, if anything. We will lose to Rangers, lose to St.Mirren and Hearts and then we have Kettlewell's Killie Pies at home in which, on paper at least, is already "must win" for us.

Anyway here's my thoughts on today. Positives - Motherwell fc running a bus - brilliant. Thank you The very cheap booze in the Stenhousemuir fc pub (I only had one....nice staff too) Thought fans backed the team really well We won! Sod's hilarious goal Negatives The pissing rain Being vertically challenged (although my view was not too bad considering I'm the height of a smurf) The toilets - although I'm sure there's worse in other grounds.

Unless we pull a significant improvement out of the hat this won’t be pleasant for us. 0-3 defeat.

Their forum is on meltdown and blaming SOD for the defeat 🤣🤣

I’ll put this out here now, We will not be beating Morton next week. Morton have a decent side and a streetwise manager, helped by a streetwise director of football. I’ll be at the game, I’ll not be booing, shouting at players or calling for JBA,s head…. But we will not be winning that game.

Dundee 0 - 0 at half time St Johnstone 0 - 0 at half time Livi 1 - 0 up at home to Brora Rangers It's almost like this is still mid preseason for the Premiership teams.

Keeping a hold of the ball isn't a " project ", it's how the majority of the world play now...even the limited time I've seen of the women's football shows this Whether our fans accept it is another matter, but giving the players and mgr a hard time won't help.