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And here we go again...

Nobody has even mentioned Griffiths Swan dive a few minutes after the pen which the ref completely ignored. Definite yellow for simulation.

Exactly that, as would most part-time supporters.

I just don't see in game VAR being viable unless there are multiple cameras at all games. If it was feasible then OK, but there would still need to be a punishment set at a level aimed at quashing that behaviour.

I'll be there, but I think we'll be back to our core support. As a guide to the reaction to the cup final, I took 4 extra fans to the final who left with the view that Motherwell didn't turn up.

Yes, refereeing standards are a consideration, but that is different from players creating incidents for the ref to judge. If there is nothing to judge they won't get it wrong.

Yesterday we witnessed a not atypical act of diving which both player and manager have since attempted to justify. This type of thing will no doubt happen many times across the country throughout the remainder of the season. In a league game this would have been bad enough, but in a cup final it takes on a completely different magnitude. Undoubtedly, the incident had a major bearing on the match as a spectacle, destroyed any prospect of an entertaining final 30 mins and deprived the Motherwell players of any chance of a cup winners medal and the paying fans the chance of watching the teams battle it out on equal terms, and I haven't mentioned what it might mean financially in terms of win bonus to some players. Put aside the refereeing decision, if players don't dive, the ref doesn't have a decision to make. If a player has an opportunity he should do what he can to stay on his feet and make the most of it. It seems that players take the opposite view to go down, get the penalty and get the opponent sent off. Obviously, because the frequency of diving isn't getting any less, the penalties for such behaviour are not sufficient. It needs to be stamped out of the game, and the only way to do it is to dish out more severe penalties. What penalties would work, I don't know, but some ideas; - multiple game ban - severe fine - strip player of medal if it happens in a cup final - fine the club - deduct points if it happens in a league match You may think some of these are too severe, but as a Motherwell fan who has only seen his team compete in 4 major finals in over half a century, I feel that I was deprived of seeing my team have a fair crack yesterday. I've no idea how, as fans, we can make anything happen, but it is time to say something. As a fan owned club can we lead by example? Can the Well Society do something alongside the authorities running the game? I know that I may be naïve thinking that anything will change, but as owners of the club, surely we can at least be heard. It is time for the authorities to take this problem seriously.

Not me.

Really don't think we had a standout today. Good defensive display all round. So anyone from the back line.

Yeah, wrong thread.

Sorry, I don't agree with that (Ya Beezer). Looked like the game plan to me to hold out and frustrate for the first 45 or so. I was expecting to change formation and up the tempo in the final 30 mins, but the goal upset that and pushed the plan up a bit. Tanner coming on at 1-0 changed the game. Wenhad started to get through them and in behind. Gordon makes a great save, Moult taken out on another threatening attack and then some cheating and incompetent refereeing kills the game. For all Celtic had the ball in the first 45, they did nothing with it.

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Carson today. His handling was excellent.

A really solid performance all round today. A very dominant display with the result never in doubt. It has been a long time since a Motherwell team has been so comfortable with a lead. The midfield gives such protection to the back line, and the back line is so strong that Carson must be one of the least worked keepers in the league.

The best all round team performance I can remember. It is great to be a Well fan right now.

Oh so many to choose from but I'm going for Andy Rose who I thought was superb tonight.

Excellent second half. Hartley certainly commands the back line, he didn't stop talking and shouting throughout. Bigi did a great job when he came on. Kipre once more absolutely solid and Campbell looks like he is going to be a great asset. A special mention for Bowman who has had a tough time since he arrived, but he looks to have found his touch and is really contributing all round for the team. McHugh came on to a game, but he needs to be quicker on the ball, and to be honest I think he is looking quite slow in the middle of the park. The manager is also having a good start to the season. His changes always have an impact. Well done SR, keep it up. Deserved 3 points overall.

Campbell for me. Special mentions for big Kipre and Bowman and for Hartley for a right solid performance.

Very good team performance. Back three look really solid. I thought that we were worth the win. Hearts had more of the ball, but I felt that we did more in the final third than Hearts.

The Carson sending off is a joke. I just don't were the goal scoring opportunity that has been denied. Kipre is shepherding the ball back, if Carson isn't there the ball gets launches for a throw or a corner. Only because Carson is where he is, does Kipre let him take it. Even when he takes it, it is so difficult to tell which side of the line it is that there is no way the ref can be sure that it is a foul, never mind decide to send him off.

A good all round team performance today. Stand outs for me were Tanner and Cadden. I thought the defence was much more solid than last season and will only get better. MoM though I'll give to Fadden.

I'm not sure about Dunne. Thought Tanner looked useful. Bigirimana looked good too. Tuton looked up for it and had a decent touch. Looks to be a good link up man. Too early to say really, but some reasons to be optimistic.

Motherwell without Faddy isn't natural. It almost brings a tear to my eye. I wish him all the best and hope that his management and coaching exploits are a success and he comes back as a manager in the future.

Went for Moult among many good performers tonight; McHugh, Heneghan, Ainsworth all stood out.

I too think that we were slightly better than Saints and were certainly worth a point. Silly mistakes are costing us.