Well Well

From the Wigan Forum re Kipre tonight 1. Kipre, can't say enough good words about him. To see his level of composure for a 21 year old is very rare. When he made mistakes against Villa, he never changed his style of play or let it affect his judgement. Too often you see players try to make up for an error, which almost always leads to more errors. 2. Kipre gets a very strong mention as well. Colossus in defence. 3. Kipré and Dunkley have been brilliant in defence tonight. Missing the big chap

Well done to Motherwell. A clean sheet and a win when we needed it most. Steady the ship a wee bit and hopefully kick on from here.

Well there you go...been calling for johnson to play for ages, now he gets his chance and scores within a half hour....night and day compared to Main and Sammon. Why we persisted is beyond me

I said it after the Hibs game that I watched our front two closely and they didn't communicate with each other the full game, not one comment. They didn't even look at each. If you see any good partnership up front the guys are always talking to each other, communicating, switching sides, doing anything to keep the opposition defenders on the back foot. Our guys just walk about with the markers, make no attempt to win the ball other than foul the defenders. No imagination, no spark. they cant even hold the ball up for 5 seconds to allow the midfield time to come up and support. Only person who has done all this is Johnson but we insist on making him a sub. he does more work in the time he is on than Sammon and Main do the whole match. Once again it seems we only played one half of the game. This time it was the first half. Any team watching us can read us like a book, one dimensional and heads down the minute we start losing.

Pacy, tall and likes to play with the ball at his feet. Exactly the player I think we needed. A few months to polish his Scottish accent and get him in the first team. I wish him well and welcome to the club. Has been a welcome few signings and a good lift before playing Cannabis FC

For me thats the perfect line up

Its Aldred, thread complete

Would cream my frillies if he is returning, some much needed stability

I was talking about united not us

Thats my biggest fear, just remember their firesale and then spent years in the wilderness

I know we are a selling club and its good business but selling two of our best players within a very short space of time is going to hurt us badly. it will take time for any replacements to be found and get fit (no one we have brought in so far has been fitter than the pilsbury doughboy) then get used to our style of play. could be months (Hartley). All the time we are playing competitive games. Wish the sales could be confined to preseason before any competitive games. At least come January we have an idea where we are in the league and if there is a need to sell or bring in anyone. Robinson must be frustrated as hell trying to build a team, getting outbid for players he has been targetting for months and losing his best players. Who would be a manager...not me.

you pissed or your spell checker on the blink...or more probably your brain cell

I think people on here have the right to bitch. We have some quality ball playing midfielders who when they do get a game show everyone that they can do it but get benched continually for the likes of Rose and Grimshaw. We need a ball winning midfielder in the team but not a whole midfield of them. Hibs pace totally negated the whole defensive midfield setup we had and they just passed the ball around them. When Frear and Bigi came on the difference was clear to everyone with half a brain cell. We were much more positive and actually took the game to hibs a lot more with Johnson's chances the result. Its bloody frustrating when the world can see these type of players improve the balance and creativity of the midfield but we chose not to play them for this god awful punt up the park style of play. I understand sometimes we need to park the bus against teams but when the approach is clearly not working it needs to change quickly not when the game is basically over 3-0 down.

I agree, Johnson didnt struggle at all today (other than finishing) with the chances he had (4+ clear shots on goal iirc) that none of the other two so called strikers we had on the field had all day. Bigi came on and showed some patience and composure on the ball and we started creating those chances for Johnson. If we can see it I just cant understand why the Motherwell management can't. Is it just a play ugly and survive in the league attitude we seem to have developed?

This completely

I have seen him twice and he certainly gave me some hope we signed a decent passing midfielder who can open defences with intelligent balls. I would play Campbell, Gorrin and Bigi along with Cadden but then again he was anonymous today.

I often say it but again we were a team of two halfs, We have got to stop this not turning up for one half of a game its getting ridiculous. Thats every single game so far I have seen this. Its very early in the season and can be sorted. Fingers x. I can see a potentially decent defender in Donnelly as well, who I think is a decent capture. Johnson can shield a ball well and do something positive when he does and its just disappointing that Main or Sammon couldnt do what he done between them. As for Robinson comment about the first half, mystifying. I suppose he was trying to stop the guys heads from going down. Hibs tore us to shreds and they never needed to get out of first gear.

I was going to write a huge rant which was going through my head on the way back from Edinburgh but after reading this it sums up what I was thinking better. A blind man can see bigi brings much needed composure to that midfield and if Johnson doesn't play against Accies it will be a travesty. My half time pie crust falling onto the park had more movement and caused the Hibs defence more issues than Sammon and Main combined. I watched them closely and not once did they talk to each other, no sign of any sort of understanding between them. If I could read body language I would say they just didn't look interested today at all. Drop Rose and Grimshaw for Bigi and Gorrin as a corpse would have been better than those two in midfield today.

woohoo prediction came true...first time for everything

Livingston please

With all these injuries wonder if we will be looking to promote someone from the under 21/20s

Kipre was night and day 2nd half. Much more like the Kipre of last season with some crucial tackles and some good runs and link up play

Don't want to keep repeating myself but once again we show we only play in one half of each game. That needs to be worked on. Well done Motherwell for digging that result out but by god do we make it hard for ourselves.

Well at least those who haven't been to the games can now see what I mean about our play. We normally have a shit half so hopefully that will have been it and it will be the team that can play will come out in the 2nd half. Not one game yet we have played the full 90 minutes. I know its only 4 games in to the season but my god we have been truly awful in at least one half of every game.

Think the main point is that it is too bloody predictable and teams are reading it too easily now. We don't seem to have a plan B. Results preseason is fine but I am sure that if we continue to play this way then we may struggle as premiership teams are a bit more savvy to our style now. As for not going just because you don't like the style of football, deary me.