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You were the one who brought it up...where is your proof, or have we just to bow down to your expertise as an globetrotting, former taxi-driver, marketing guru??
But hey, I'll entertain you...
The company I work for currently holds copyright on over 200 separate products, which in my role as Marketing & CRM Manager I have to manage. Additionally we also have over 1500 images of the products which we own artistic copyright on automatically as well as virtual renders, videos and 360º images. Not to mention the promotional materials, instructions, brochures, etc.
While the product design infringement is less frequent an issue, the use of the images is not. Our competitors will regularly use them and part of my job is to monitor there use online. In the case of where unauthorised use is identified, I serve a copyright notice to the parties involved. Most of the time, that serves as a deterrent and the images are removed. When this is unsuccessful I then make a claim under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act to the hosting site who will always act and remove the images. If we get to this point, or indeed if it is a repeat offender, I will pass their details to our legal team who will pursue damages - something that they have succeeded on in numerous occasions, with one company being fined £45,000 earlier this year.
On top of that, I studied copyright quite intensively at University as part of my course and it featured heavily when undertaking my CIM accreditation. As someone who maintains a freelance portfolio, it is something I have advised on a great deal as well.
As you have been told, the club did not create the viking chant and first step of copyright protection is proving without a shadow of a doubt that you created it followed by a process that allows counter claims to be made if applicable. Once granted, to prove copyright you have to have someone accountable for the breach. As mentioned, a crowd of fans chanting/singing a song does not make the club they support liable for the action of individuals, and unless they can identify the individual at fault (ie not a crowd, the person who started the chant) action is simply impossible.
This utter minefield is the reason clubs much larger than us don't seek copyright on songs. It's a non-starter.
Furthermore, for the club to even investigate this avenue would costs a great deal of money in legal fees which would be wasted. Much better spent on e-mail marketing, no?! Or at least the playing budget.
To conclude, your grasp of copyright laws is clearly, in my honest opinion from a wealth of experience, incorrect. Once again, you have opened your mouth without any knowledge to back it up, and that is why you are constantly called out on it. However, I would be most delighted to hear how you deal with plagiarism/copyright a few times per year?!
Going forward, I'd be more than happy for you to pass any of your "marketing guru" ideas pass me for some fact checking in a PM before you post for to save yourself the embarrassment of looking like an idiot (again).
Hold on, I'm just checking your post for plagiarism
You were the one who brought it up...where is your proof, or have we just to bow down to your expertise as an globetrotting, former taxi-driver, marketing guru??
But hey, I'll entertain you...
The company I work for currently holds copyright on over 200 separate products, which in my role as Marketing & CRM Manager I have to manage. Additionally we also have over 1500 images of the products which we own artistic copyright on automatically as well as virtual renders, videos and 360º images. Not to mention the promotional materials, instructions, brochures, etc.
While the product design infringement is less frequent an issue, the use of the images is not. Our competitors will regularly use them and part of my job is to monitor there use online. In the case of where unauthorised use is identified, I serve a copyright notice to the parties involved. Most of the time, that serves as a deterrent and the images are removed. When this is unsuccessful I then make a claim under the Copyright, Designs and Patents Act to the hosting site who will always act and remove the images. If we get to this point, or indeed if it is a repeat offender, I will pass their details to our legal team who will pursue damages - something that they have succeeded on in numerous occasions, with one company being fined £45,000 earlier this year.
On top of that, I studied copyright quite intensively at University as part of my course and it featured heavily when undertaking my CIM accreditation. As someone who maintains a freelance portfolio, it is something I have advised on a great deal as well.
As you have been told, the club did not create the viking chant and first step of copyright protection is proving without a shadow of a doubt that you created it followed by a process that allows counter claims to be made if applicable. Once granted, to prove copyright you have to have someone accountable for the breach. As mentioned, a crowd of fans chanting/singing a song does not make the club they support liable for the action of individuals, and unless they can identify the individual at fault (ie not a crowd, the person who started the chant) action is simply impossible.
This utter minefield is the reason clubs much larger than us don't seek copyright on songs. It's a non-starter.
Furthermore, for the club to even investigate this avenue would costs a great deal of money in legal fees which would be wasted. Much better spent on e-mail marketing, no?! Or at least the playing budget.
To conclude, your grasp of copyright laws is clearly, in my honest opinion from a wealth of experience, incorrect. Once again, you have opened your mouth without any knowledge to back it up, and that is why you are constantly called out on it. However, I would be most delighted to hear how you deal with plagiarism/copyright a few times per year?!
Going forward, I'd be more than happy for you to pass any of your "marketing guru" ideas pass me for some fact checking in a PM before you post for to save yourself the embarrassment of looking like an idiot (again).
Similar to your good self I have to constantly check content supplied to me from various sources, including authors, article writers, and content creators to ensure that among other things they are not lifting articles direct from published sources. You will be familiar with the tools required to run said checks. You will also be familiar with the curse of content spinning.
You'll be pleased to hear that I just ran your post through a few plagiarism checks and you returned a score of 93% original. I have no doubt if you concentrated you could improve on that figure.
I own more copyrights than I care to mention on this forum. One of the scourges of copyright is piracy, as you know. I recently had a case where a pirate operation raised a complaint because I shut down a website they relied upon for content. Hilarious, huh? You'll be fully aware of the damage these pirate operations can do to original content creators. You will also be aware that the major internet operators are all over that like a rash. I won't insult you by telling you how.
Re-read your post - you may even have to sleep on it and come back to it. What a glaring error you have made for someone that is supposedly a copyright specialist. Laughable. In fact -
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Even if you wanted to take this seriously, the writers of a song are granted copyright automatically. The writers were not the club.
Was a very entertaining post though, even if I'd expect a digital marketing guru to know something about copyright.
You do know how musical copyright works, huh?
Clearly not.
Otherwise you wouldn't have posted such wilful stupidity.
The club should apply for it, it will either be granted, or it won't be.
As for your digital marketing comment, I deal with copyright infringement and plagiarism issues several times a year.
Have you ever? even once in your life?
Would you know where to start?
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Usual gibbering by people that don't have a clue.
This very day two of my colleagues are making a fortune from what I described. One of them sold out his company at the age of twenty-four and is now traveling the world.
Shall we ask the experts or listen to you clueless clowns?
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Interesting that two of the six summer signings so far are for one year only? ( Griffiths and Rose ) .
I'm maybe more surprised by Griffiths signing for one year.
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Congrats to McHugh, make us all happy and sign a contract extension please.
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I know fine well how much money can be made from social media. Doesnt mean I have to like or use all platforms myself.
I think the biggest trick the club are missing is hiring yourself as Social Media & Marketing guru! Then we could have wee Lanarkshire vikings cutting around football stadiums the world over clapping like a golf fan on coke and making the club so much money our signing targets for next summer will be Higuain,Messi,Ronaldo and Martyn Waghorn
Ive never used or wanted to use any other sicial media. I loathe using facebook,its only good for slagging mates and having the odd rant lol
Ive just never understood the obsession with all these platforms. Anyway, we digress from the thread!
Staggering stuff. Do you have any idea how much businesses and individuals make from Facebook? And that includes MFC?
This very day there's someone on Twitter asking if they could buy the superb Lasley tribute photo.
Our club social media images are excellent. The club is poor at monetizing them. If they were better at it more money would be available for rebuilding the squad.
Which brings us right back on topic.
Just read this thread - major opportunity missed by the club, and I mean major.
Worldwide interest in the so-called Viking chant. The Iceland fans admitted they got it from the Well Bois.
Copyright the chant for the benefit of the club. Get the right mascot in place - get in contact with the Chinese manufacturers, and produce a chanting version of the mascot. Easy done.
Sell the licence to other football clubs so they can produce their own versions in their club colours.
Copyright application is cheap and easy.
The Scottish government, Chinese embassy and other agencies will assist in locating the manufacturer. The British Chamber of Commerce in Shanghai are also very good.
As per usual, too much for the halfwit brigade on this forum to take in. It's hard enough for them to remember what spreading cheese they like for their piece, and what bus to catch to work.
I bet ya someone in the commercial department reads this and says "dafuq, why did we not think of that?"
Naturally, once they do it I'll be taking the credit on here, just to wind ya'll up.
Which is easy.
fucking terrible
2009/10 I think was introduced for the Cooper (2 kids) and a year later the East Stand for one child.
Looking forward to NASA being telt to put a man in space and credit being taken for it next time there's a rocket launch.
You really are a sanctimonious clown.
And modest with it too....
In terms of the point about free tickets and the connection between rising adult sales and free kids tickets you'll be aware that the club through the Wellevate scheme have been offering free tickets for U15's accompanying adult season ticket holders for a number of years yes?
Yes I know that - you'll be aware I posted months ago of the importance of issuing season tickets direct to the kids. Give the kids a sense of ownership, don't make them add ons.
This is not rocket science - the club has a realistic spare capacity of 6,000 seats. Give 3,000 of them direct to the kids and watch our support soar as the kids drive adults to attend with them, the opposite affect of the current scheme.
By the way, the club email marketing is still somewhere between poor and dire, which is a pity because a lot of their social media marketing is good. There are legal restrictions in email marketing to kids, I'm not proposing the club does that, but the email marketing to adults has to improve.
On this thread we have had people say they forgot about the £20.00 kids ticket - a missed opportunity. An email reminder to the adult fan base may have picked up several more.
On top of that - broken record time - this forum should be doing more to support the club marketing. Last week I had the temerity to start a thread highlighting the club videos - that wee idiot came on to the thread and moaned about it. A fine example of denigrating an effort to HIGHLIGHT club media. Staggering in it's stupidity.
One of you mods should be running a fundraising thread for the Les Hutchison double your money offer.
One of you mods should be running a "have you bought your season ticket," thread.
I note the club promoting a comedy night - no mention of it here? maybe I missed it.
So how about ya'll starting to use the heid and use this forum to promote the club and the club social media.
According to the official site season ticket sales are actually up 57% for adults and a whopping 167% for the kids tickets.
Glad to see someone at the club listened to me - even better if they had gone the whole hog and made it free.
Make sure it happens next year, Mr Burrows - there's a connection between the rise in adult sales and the kids sales.
Make it free for the kids, watch the support boom.
And watch the sales of merchandise soar.
I think you just won this thread.
to be fair, that was a good one.
You should try being witty too, weeyin.
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I guess if he's as good as you and others say and has had interest like that, then unfortunately, I would suspect the lad may have ambitions beyond Motherwell and out with our budget for anything but a loan. Of course, we may be a shop window for him but surely we would rather give that shop window opportunity to a player who could earn us a few bob?
I haven't looked him up, how old is he and when's he out of contract?
I think he's nineteen just now, I'm not sure when he is out of contract. I prefer we sign our own players however Robinson said he had held money back from the budget to sign a loan player later when clubs firm up their first team squads.
Left back is a problem spot for us. Ross fits the bill for our club in so many ways, including a superb professional attitude. As I say, worth a phone call to Rangers. Stephen Craigan and many others around the club know who he is and have seen him play many times.
Incidentally - our youth development is admired across the country. People I know who work with both of the Old Firm development squads are very complimentary.
Kudos to everyone involved.
That is not a bad shout. I'm buying a season ticket for Charlton this season that will have my boy getting his for free
Yup - fill the stadium with kids.
Then sell claret and amber ear plugs in the club shop, we'll make a fortune.
I am not too sure if this is correct post, but the Well Society are saying that season tickets are up 15% but with discounts etc, the income is remaining the same, so do not get too excited about the extra cash to put in for players as that will not happen.
I give the club credit for the £20 juvenile season ticket - a good move.
Next year make it an outstanding move and make it free.
That's a job for the commercial department - go find a sponsor for the "make it free," promotion.
If I recall correctly, is that your mates lad that you've spoken about on here before?
Yes - Liverpool were in for him and Warburton told him he was wanted by Rangers. I don't know the new managers opinion.
A great player with a great attitude. I said 'even on a loan," because he would be cover for a problematical position. If he signed full time what a coup that would be.
He should be on the club's radar. Well worth a phone call.
I'm in Thailand with two sons and three nephews
The weekend has begun
The club should make a move for Ross Lyon of Rangers.
A loan move would be fine, he'd come to Motherwell. An exceptional young man and great player.
And eh, can play left back.
He's Dundee's manager.
My apologies, I was under the impression he had quit
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Former Motherwell Fc Players Thread
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Take into the pension arrangement for professional spirtsmen. They can put 20% of their gross income into a pension fund, and draw a 25% lump sum tax free when 35. Most wait till later.
Someone like Marvin, picking up say £8,000 a week at 20% pension rate, would bank £250,000 into their pension on a three year contract.
I find it unbelievable that anyone would criticize a family man for banking £250k in three years.