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see the problem is its all valid, nobody is really right or wrong in much of the discussion I agree £20 is about the maximum it should be for run of the mill games, £23 for an SPL game is too much, I'm a mug though so if its a Saturday 3pm i'll go as i see that being worth the slight premium (kiding myself on, I know!) we charge all visitors a minimum £22 at Fir Park, we charge all adults at least £22 to walk into watch games from the Cooper when I view it from an irrational supporters view, the Europa games are special events I wouldn't be missing a cup semi final or final because it was >£25, same as I will not be missing a Europa game for that reason. if we had not been in europe for 13 years, Id reckon there would be less discussion on the price , and more on the potential opponents and our team. as it is, for me and a mate and two kids its £60, break it down how you like £20, £20, £10 & £10 or any other way and it looks ok. Edit: not to say I don't understand people, that query £25, if they don't go to many matches , for whatever reasons. But in reality for those that still go regular its only a quid or two on top of an SPFL game, too much? That's down to individual, I know I'd rather go to this one than any domestic game

I agree that two year deals are frustrating, but responded to that player being on a 3 year deal that could expire just when he proves himself its been explained quite a few times at events why the club cannot budget on three year deals at this level. one of the main reasons is no cash reserve, or millionaire to provide security imagine if all the senior players had been on 3 year deals when Rangers went bust. almost guaranteed it would have led to an insolvency event for us. as budgets couldnt have been cut enough

he is on a 3 year deal, it ends next summer, from whats in public domain

Erwin could score 30 this season and we'll get nothing for him. we do fine at developing players, dont have the funds for coaching to that next level so they move on the problem is we dont have funds to put them on deals that would allow us the sale prices we think they are worth

£22 any game in Cooper Increases to £25 for a Celtic game in majority of stadium £32 for adult and kid Cannot see why this euro game should be priced cheaper but the club have managed to get the kids in cheaper.

unless you chartered, then you paid for them, thats on the list along with the Katowice security deposit

So many questions but I'll stick with one, who did McFadden play for the season before last?

SPFL website

is it not the case that we have to offer a contract in order to be due compensation? I'm not too happy at the potential loss of Murray, he and Erwin signed deals at the same time, it was later revealed Erwins was a three year deal, yet nothing on Murray? big lad was stand out whenever I watched him, be it preseason or reserves, sure he had a setback, but came back and never put a foot wrong when asked by McCall. I'm still hoping he was on a longer deal and is just on a summer break, wouldn't like to lose all the development years for nothing

or Corby Town (pronounced Corby)

Added you in to the first post fat_tony. Cheers and I've got no insider info on new signings Joe, has just pointed out that everyone has missed a few players from last seasons squad list

Schools not even out and the crazy season has begun. far too many bites for one afternoon McGowan doesn't need a shop to be 'open' to be in it

Just checked and transfer is showing up Thanks , I'll update post 1

Cheers added in a another few payments that came in Joe, drop me a line if its worthy and we keep seeing contributions then I'll try to work with club to see what can be done. Remember if you are emailing or paypal'ing? me to try and add some details in saying who you are and that the money is for the player sponsorship, so that I can match up, the details of who is contributing and they can go against the raffle tickets. I want to make sure the winners can be contacted.

They top 16 clubs in the country on footballing merit

Been up to the club and paid them £400 down payment for two sponsorships . Uptake has been excellent both on here and at the club, From the limited availability I have requested Josh Laws away and Euan Murray'ssee edit below, home at this stage so that would be £570 EDIT: on 20-06-14 PAID balance of first twe strips so, £570 now with club to cover Lionel Ainsworth Home and Josh Law away strips for coming season Could it be possible to get to a third player?

Cheers folks, I have added in all the payments received in paypal and the one cheque received so far from Kmcalpin. I'll keep that first post up to date whenever I get net access.

Sure its not just you Jam20, as I said if its not for you/others just carry on as is, but for anyone that bemoans how things are run, lack of budgets, decent youth structure, high expectations of top six finish. let alone expectations of Europe etc. then that product comes with a cost. for the last few years we as fans been lucky to receive the end product at a bit of a bargain price, right now the choice is a couple of quid a week extra to help out, or an unknown, some would say wishful thinking of someone paying the shortfall edit: and with sbmfc comment it made me think perhaps we have the crux, he may think giving the society pays wages, whereas I dont think any society money is paying wages, the clubs income is paying the wages, the society funds allow the club to trade as they have been, in a industry where the cash income is not evenly distributed. happy to be wrong on that and sb just thinks paying footballers is wrong

some mixed input so far, we need to remember the clubs trading income and the Society funds are two different entities its pretty sad that on teh face of it there appears, just cause, to criticise volunteers effort and hard work, when in fact most of it is down to lack of clear communication channels as well as whats been mentioned, there is also a full Well Society fundraising dinner event at planned for one of the holiday weeekends in the pipeline (think its September) waiting on confirmation but I believe it will be the first acknowledgement by fans of Tommy McLeans contribution to our clubs history. I'll also say that, even if its unpopular, all the excuses from the majority that a tenner a month to join the society is too expensive, is misguided. at every opportunity the society and club have said if you want to join and contribute go and speak to them (alison) and work something out. Sure, if you dont want to do it , move along and just follow the club as you are. Most season ticket holders on average are getting into games for around £16? add a society membership and thats around £22-£23, not cheap but surely achievable for more than 1 in 5 of our season ticket holders and if that ST holder is getting a free kid or two, then its really £8-12 a head per game to be a ST holder and one adult member of society. It has been said many times, maybe our fans would only realise what a vunerable position the club is in, were the worst to happen PS, I'm not against alternative investment, be surprised if we have any fans with serious cash, who are not already involved,I'll be delighted if there are, like United or Killie, but with external investment, comes seats on the board, JB called it that the last guy wasnt suitable, lets hope we are able to keep the ability to control the path of the club.

Cheers, Added them in, Payment later on is fine, if folk pledge an amount, it lets me gauge amount that will likely come in , pay one strip right away and get the club to invoice me next month for any potential second strip

Cheers folks, almost at one strip already with payments and pledges

some early interest so may as well go for it again and raise funds to sponsor at least one player again. edit: two players sponsored trying for a third.... it'll be the 10th season of sponsored strips by the WTFC - steelmenonline, forums If you want to join in, just pledge an amount in this thread and I'll add it to the first post as we go Both of last years strips are reserved until month end so dependant on uptake we'll see who we sponsor THE IDEA & COSTS The idea is that people contribute in multiples of £5 in order to get their name on 'raffle ticket' for a draw. Each £5 contribution will get a name on a ticket & place in the draw The winners of the draw will receive the sponsors privileges ( sponsored top & opportunity to receive it at an end of season event) So, if you donate £5, you will get one chance at winning the strip/s, whereas a £20 donation will get you four chances and so on....... It's basically whatever you can afford, but £5 is the minimum pledge. I thought about making it £10 but folk in the past have pledged various multiples of £5 and it all goes into the club not everyone can sponsor a player as an individual, but doing it like this we can help support club and every fiver contributed goes straight into the club in full and has a chance of winning a players strip It costs, up to £350 to sponsor each player, couple of years back when the club were pushing steelmenforever we managed to reach £700 to sponsor two euro tops @£350 each which was pretty decent so hopefully as a group we can get some money together again and help out PAYMENT options: Send PayPal payment to.... iainmande@hotmail.com , PayPal takes a cut but if the contribution is marked as a GIFT payment then I should receive the full amount and the sender covers the charge Please remember to include your board name or contact details in the PayPal payment so I can mark it off, and also that it's for sponsorship and remember its a GIFT payment message me with a PM or post here, if you require postal details to send a cheque or if you'd rather meet up and pay cash. 2014-2015 pledges (paid in bold) Steve Diggle £20 linsey12 £20 Mad_Dog £50 NottsMFC £20 East_Stand_Al £10 Steelman1991 £50 Burn_Broomfield £25 Ecky £25 siebsbarmyarmy £20 Toxteth_Ogrady £10 WeeYin £20 Brazilian £20 DennyC £25 ClaretandBamber £25 Kmcalpin £20 Dr_Pepper £10 BigWispyFlossy £20 Andy_P £10 Brazilian £20 coolhandluc £10 andalg £10 Wellmade £10 Ropy £10 Numpty £20 Moorey £10 clueless £10 SMc £20 DosserJoe £10 IanC £20 fat_tony £20 delboy £20 WellinEssex £15 Spiderpig £20 Wellman £20 Daver £20 well_nuts £20 Scoojy £20 JoeWarkTheLegend £5 SteveDiggle2 £10 eddiemunster £20 Yabba's Turd £20 Mightywelllscott £20 SteveDiggle3 £10 punk_in_drublic £20 chq Andy_P2 £5 stuwell £20 Rabcnesbit £20 £855 paid up to rabc tommy_coyne £20 EDIT: on 20-06-14 PAID balance of first two strips so, £570 now with club to cover Lionel Ainsworth Home and Josh Law away strips for coming season EDIT: on 15-08-14 PAID a futher £295 of contributions in to the club this afternoon, £865 now with club to cover Lionel Ainsworth Home and Josh Law away strips for coming season and todays addition was Henrik Ojamaa 2nd Home top

if it is revealed that Doncaster actually paid money back to ESPN-BTsport to effectively promote the Rangers product in their rebirth, then maybe we will see the end of him. he was only defended by our directors as the man that is the best at the contract negotiations despite his other flaws. giving money back is very rarely good for any company

the one thing missing from that CV, is the experience and an understanding of football fans and passion for their club and the game