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yeah I'm not sure of the legal terminology but the shares are no longer in general circulation and are sitting waiting on the Society reaching the next purchase point. Society funds remain within the society accounts , until they are used in increments to pay MFC for shares to be transferred into the Society's holding. the money that goes from Society to MFC,to pay for shares is effectively Motherwells money, but the primary function of it is to provide security so the club hold it separately and draw upon it when needed returning it to that account when the situation has passed. so if we had a bad winter with no cash income for a prolonged period, the club would draw upon the funds in their own account that was from society share purchase to pay the bills etc, but when the matches are then played or other income like league payments kick in then the money would be returned to the separate account (this is the critical function of the funds as we do not have borrowing facilities from usual institutions) one additional option is open to club and society, if the club needs more fnds but the society hasn't yet transferred them for shares, the society can loan the club some of its funds. real difference here being that if the club entered an insolvency event it would be the society that was a preferential creditor ( providing no laws had been broken (unpaid tax) or football creditors were lurking)

No, he handed them over in trust, he could have sold until when the first shares were purchased by the Society there was then some time period which has now lapsed , so he has no interest in them they could be sold currently but its a bit of a legal minefield , not least, in that all?majority? shareholders need to agree to any sale. the society being shareholders get significant input into that decision EDIT: and quite significantly if I recall correctly the funds from any 'external' sale of those shares go into the separate and charitable Motherwell community trust ( or a similar entity but I think that's correct)

Boyle has nothing to sell

Aye they got a fair few breaks, lets not gloss over just how awful we were, when the manager choose to shuffle the deck with players out of position and gamble with players hampered by injury, instead of using players who at very least were fit. thought it was the worst we could be although when they had it won we looked as though it could be just a blip, until a few days later. the realisation that injuries mean players need to drop out and that fringe players get their chance was at least forthcoming after that week

Think you only take opponents better seeding in the pre scheduled rounds, for the one extra round Then you revert back to own seeding when , next round occurs

bit early for match thread, but hopefully help get the fee tickets message out for some to see

Saus who? you have to offer same deal to fans in equivalent seating, league regulations why the fuck would we give our own fans in one stand a free ticket for another game for turning up? the suggestion of bolting a free or reduced next game ticket onto the programme is perceived as a loophole to balance the increased premium game pricing effect on a home fan. point is premium pricing across the board is a farce, making people pay extra to come and watch any team in the Cooper with their kids or mates is one big joke.

not willing to commit? think you may have the wrong end of the stick about our situation

but he didn't, sitting at 499 at present I thought? Tannadice the opportunity to make 500

at 0-0 In Murphs last game at Celtic park, we got a penalty when Murph himself ran in on goal (argued by them, most of us thought it was legit) and at the end of the season maybe the last ever Rangers vs Motherwell game we were given a penalty as Murph went down, was 'soft' at best edit might not have been last game pre liquidation, but was end of season game maybe last time we scored to gain a point or something?

So they are in a far superior position and clearly better run than the Rangers then ?

Game was televised, no need for casual punters to pay any cash out terrible and quite erratic match scheduling leaving no routine to work to Holiday weekend that had no fixture details available until around two weeks prior £25 ticket entry Generally unpleasant atmosphere portrayed by police and media around football games. play the same teams, over and over and over and over again..... 10 goals against, 0 for in previous meetings this season Split takes momentum out league A lot of kids missing at old firm visits, i'm not sure if the youth academies do not get their usual allocation or if they just stay away from the unpleasant visitors pretty sure the few hundred youth organisation tickets don't get allocated and quite significantly as nothing can be done about the above, the positive and forward thinking season ticket policy of our club, does nothing to encourage casual punters or visiting fans to visit and return time after time core support has remained similar for decades, visiting support is what has declined

I dunno if its bullshit I was at game, but as you imply if it had been in the bois you would probably have been fine with it, TV coverage cutting to fans who actually go to matches enjoying themselves as part of match coverage, I reckon that's not a disgrace, maybe they should have been showing all the well fans leaving early? Or empty sections? I'd rather focus on getting fans back into grounds, which a 6 goal thriller in the sunshine and with both sets of fans having highs n lows, does me fine.... Now if only we had scored one more from the 4 or 5 goal line clearances

not really a disgrace that sky showed fans celebrating is it? part of improving the image of the game encouraging and promoting positive atmosphere, bit unprofessional if they missed the goal altogether but courtesy of the swami in the shoutbox, for all the TV viewers and the many hundreds that left early here is another chance highlights link http://fr.proxfree.com/permalink.php?url=yx%2BhnYCyg4s24iThgBXg7eD%2BgixM%2BhdmOP7qE3TZgUPGSfsf7LeHtDYQ87JaF8Yqh3N4t6KOBBfuiTJ%2F%2F9%2BUNQ%3D%3D&bit=1

Hard to filter it all out for a balanced view with passion running so high, But Jack Leitch was immense, outstanding performance from a player at any stage of their career and big Hutch is a machine , he might make the occasional error but losing the fight he brings us is gonna hurt

update folks, Prepared ticket stubs, one for every £5 contribution and went up to the ticket office last night where Wendy, was kind enough to draw the winners names out Weeyin, gets Stuart Carswells top Toxteth_oGrady , gets Euan Murrays both guys also receive an invite to the annual sponsors event. I've managed to contact WeeYin, edit: and Toxteth but Toxteth is in hiding, if you know him please give him a nudge to respond to PM or email, I'm not a Nigerian general

yeah, I'm also happy enough at seeing a small increase after three years of the price being held for adults, anybody that benefits from the added kids ticket/s on the Well'evate scheme is still getting a great deal, the board also seem keen to point out that, with home cup games the requirement to effectively pay the opposition in the region of a tenner for every home season ticket holder attending, can led to losses on home games , makes commercial sense to remove them, I'd hope that the club still take a sensible approach to pricing the early rounds of and cup games we do participate in, as the sad thing I continue to see, despite the boards progressive approach to ticketing is far too high a walk up price to nearly every game. I don't see how we are every going to get back lapsed fans or hook in those that get freebies or offers, charging home and visiting fans around £22/£24 for any other game they come along to. but Season tickets, no grudge for around £30 ish quid from me, or a £10-12 each if I split it over the two kids bolt ons

Or the DEEP END as it was christened a few season back. (whos got the photo?) or was that to do with the overflowing pissers running down the stand?

Making it up might sound harsh, but yeah, as you have very kindly shown, we match them almost exactly, but you focus on the defeats and ignore the victories. and all the while we're finishing above them.. I'm tired as well, Goodnight EDIT: PS I'll be as delighted as anyone could be, if they go down, because I detest how closely matched we are in every way and it sometimes it seems to show on the pitch, I have to be persuaded to go to their place every time, even though its the simplest away trip out, and they even have the most sensible gate prices in league, but still its a chore. the league setup probably doesn't help we faced each other 6 times a few seasons ago.

you at the game Caller? struggle against St Mirren this season? we were 5 minutes away from 3 victories this season they should have been down to ten men they were gifted a goal for a player heading the ball they should have been down to nine men as it is we beat them twice lost once six points from nine against a team almost identical in crowds income budget turnover wages we do that against the other similar clubs and we'd be where we are , better off than them. they do it to us and I doubt they would be wetting their pants about only matching them over a 7 year period

holy fuck this is special even for on here its a worrying trend that we have finished above them every season? , but have only matched them in head to heads? imagine that a club on an almost identical turnover and wage ratio match us sometimes but overall we do better how can the Motherwell management team sleep at night

How many points? .....Enough

highlights up on the BBC http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/scotland/26913880 clearly ball to face from one angle, if ref didn't see it he cannot give it Brines indicates to one of our players he got a shout in earpiece from someone..... usual highlights gloss over and just miss out other major incidents

plenty players had decent games, Nielsen gets vote for the 4 or 5 saves that were magnificent