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Fantastic interview.
Ferry comes across as a total fanboy, but I actually quite like that.
The insight into Jens mind and thought processes is incredible.
He really is a special guy.
(Psychological safety!)
The more I hear him speak though, the more I feel he see's us a project he can mould in his own image.
He clearly loves it here, and I think it will take more than just money to prise him away. It will require the right club, with the right ethos that he views as a compatible match for him and his aspirations.
(I am aware there are likely to be a few of them around and at some point one of them will come for him).
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22 minutes ago, mio said:
I got around to watching the game again. I think Chamberlains crunch on Just was a booking although I have seen reds given. I don’t think it was intentional and it wasn’t as bad as Gogic on Slattery which also resulted in a booking so fair enough.
Maeda should have got at least a booking for the arm to face on said. The boot in the baws afterwards definitely merited that in its own right.
I think JTs penalty claim is a penalty…. It’s a push in the back and if JT stumbled and goes to ground like a normal human being I think it’s given….. unfortunately he does what appears to be a star jump and makes the whole thing look ridiculous and I can understand why they’ve not given it.the penalty was unfortunately a penalty. I’d have been screaming for that if it was at our end. The double jeopardy stuff is beyond me though and beyond the referees as well…. God knows what the bar is with that.
Ive seen a number of posters referring to the double jeopardy rule, so this isnt directed at you, but......
It only applies if the defender has made a genuine attempt to play the ball.
Longelo makes no attempt to play the ball, so the double jeopardy rule does not apply here.
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Elijah Just.
Given the treatment that he got from Celtic throughout the game his performance was magnificent.
Full of energy, full of running, great out ball and lovely finish for his goal (Im not having it that he didnt strike it cleanly).
He is the difference maker in our team and the one player we cant do without.
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3 hours ago, Spiderpig said:
Alan Campbell coming on as a sub for St Mirren v Rangers.
Thought he did reasonably well when he came on.
St Mirren look a shadow of the team they were in the league cup though.
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17 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:
If you think our season's basically been over since Pittodrie, fair enough. I don't feel that way at all, and whatever happens in the summer, I'll wring every bit of enjoyment I can get out of the remaining games.
I agree.
Using the above logic our season has been over in January for the last 4 years as we have never thought winning the league was possible.
Whether you believe we had any chance of winning the league this year or not, just having a conversation about it was something new.
This season wont be over for me until the last ball is kicked and we see how high up the league (or otherwise) we finish.
I think 4th and European football would be a very good return on top of the entertainment we have enjoyed this season.
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2 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:
My target this season was 7th spot. So, we've more than achieved that. Bottom line its been a great season results wise. Performance wise even better. As the season progressed and we settled in 4th spot I became increasingly optimistic that we could finish there. I never thought, at any stage, that a title challenge was even a remote possibility. Ambition wise, that left a top 3 finish, and I always felt that was extremely remote and is now well outwith our grasp. My disappointment at Dens was our chance to win our game in hand and pretty much seal a 4th place finish and we failed.
To put things in perspective, this is JBA's first season in charge and he's introduced a completely alien way of playing. I've been surprised at just how well the squad adapted. Our possession stats rocketed and just look at the number of clean sheets we achieved - unheard of in my time. Its the best football I've seen from us since I was a young lad i.e. the latter days of the Ancell era. Is it the best Motherwell team I've seen? No. The team of the mid 70s, which won nothing, was a better all round team.
Why am I questioning our mentality in big games? Rangers in 2 home games; Hearts at Tynecastle where we blew a 3 goal lead; 2 losses at Parkhead; League Cup Semi Final defeat to St Mirren; Aberdeen loss in the Scottish Cup; and Dundee at Dens. Now I'm not saying that all of that was down to our mentaility because it wasn't. JBA settling in tactics wise; poor refereeing/VAR; and sheer bad luck have all played a part, but lack of that hard mentality has been a theme running through these games. As I'm finishing this post, I've just read Thewellfan's post. To crib from him/her our away form has been fair at best. Our possession stats haven't always translated into hard goals and results.
We are where we are and I'm more than happy with that. I'm confident these weaknesses will be rectiifed in time for next season.
Apologies for the rant and straying off topic.
Dont disagree with any of that.
The only thing I would take issue with is that its a "mentality" thing.
Some bad decision making, lack of quality at vital times, bad refereeing decisions and just plain bad luck have all contributed to the games we have lost this season.
At no point have I felt that we just never turned up or bottled it.....
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1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said:
100% agree Joe. It was a clear penalty and possible red card - I don't know the exact rules about the card in such circumstances. Longelo appeared to elbow his opponent in a bout of wrestling - was that what it was for? If so why wasn't Sevelj red carded at Fir Park for a similar elbowing incident at Fir Park a few weeks ago?
Its always hard to tell from carefully edited BBC highlights but on the limited evidence I saw, our defence was pretty poor on several occasions and Ward seemed to have an off day.
I think the red card is for DOGSO.
My reading is that Longelo and Maeda are wrestling with each other prior to the corner. Maeda rolls Longelo and gets in front of him. Longelo continues to hold Maeda who has the opportunity to head it towards goal. Longelo prevents this and Maeda goes to ground.
If Longelo lets go there is no penalty and no red card. Maeda probably scores, but we still have 11 v 11.
Its a sore one, and a lesson learned for Longelo, but I dont think we can argue it.
I know some folk think that "double jeopardy" should come into play, but thats only if there is a genuine attempt to play the ball. Longelo has no idea where the ball is, let alone trying to play it.
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1 hour ago, stv said:
When was the last time you were at Parkhead or Ibrox it happen all the time. Opposition red cards for fuk all.
I think Tex meant for wrestling in the box at a corner.
I agree, you dont usually see that. However, when it happens at the back post, your defender is isolated and the keeper has come and missed leaving the goal wide open, it creates a particular set of circumstances that is hard to defend.
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2 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:
I would also include the Aberdeen cup game and the recent loss at Dens Park in my assessment. However, both of those clubs also have bigger budgets than us.
I wouldnt include the Aberdeen Cup game.
Nothing wrong with our mentality in that game. Even after the first freak red card, we regained our composure and control over the game.
At 10 v 10 we were the better team and looked like we had every chance to get back in it.
Our second red card kills it, and Im not having that as a red card ever.
Killie had a player brought down on the edge of the box tonight goalside and absolutely getting a shot away. Yellow card.
The standard of officiating in this country is horrendous.
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14 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:
Is it not the case that any incident like that inside the 18 yd box would be a penalty and a yellow card only, if it was not violent conduct
I think if its a tackle and considered a genuine attempt to win the ball, then the double jeopordy rule is applied.
However, I think DOGSO overules that in this case as its not considered a genuine attempt to get the ball.
Be interested to hear a referee's view, right enough.....
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It will be a big test for us next week however.
Hibs have some very good players and we will be without Longelo and possibly Fadinger.
At least Welsh is back, but with Koutroumbis still out and RCC injured, the inability to sign LB cover in the window might come back to bite us.
Gonna be very limited for options there.
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44 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:
It will certainly be a huge test of character. In my book there's a questionmark over our team in big games.
I dont think thats fair.
The only big game I dont think we turned up in was the League Cup semi-final, and even that game was down to "moments".
Performance wise, we have been excellent against Hearts twice, Celtic three times and Rangers three times.
Results wise you could make an argument for it, but given all 3 teams have significantly bigger budgets than us and are above us in the league, they might just be better/luckier than us.
The fact that we have been able to go toe to toe with them is a significant improvement on mindset and performance levels from years gone past.
Of course, if we want to develop and get better, Jens will have to find a way to bridge the gap and turn those performances into results.
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Thought we were very good first half and deserved to be 1-0 up. Poor decision making for their goal. You can blame any number of players for it, but the manager wants them to play that way so seems churlish to try and hang it on any one individual.
Oxlade - Chamberlain should have walked for a second yellow for his foul on Said, but we dont get those kind of decisions in Glasgow.
Second half MON changed it up and their press was far more effective. That led to far more loose passes and mistakes and ultimately the pressure that leads to the penalty.
Anyone arguing that its not a pen and a red card really needs to take their claret & amber shades off. Maeda might well be pulling Longelos jersey, but the minute he rolls him and gets goal side Longelo has to let go. Maeda has a clear header, so its a DOGSO.
Games a bogey at that point, although I would still have like to see Eythor on much quicker and go more direct. We dont seem to want to throw long balls or crosses at him, despite how good he is in the air.
Overall, decent performance up until the red card. Disappointing result.
Time to put the title race chat to bed and focus on 4th place.
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Very good first half. Deserved to be in the lead. Really poor to lose a goal like we did but have recovered our composure and should have scored a second. Some great openings. Game is still there for us, but we need to cut out the stupid stuff and take our chances......
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Glad Jens is going with SODs & McGinn in the middle. Should givebus more composure at the back.
Need a big shift from Sparrow and the midfield so we get a grip of things and protect our goal.
Hopefully JT, Just and Said will be on it up top.
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1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said:
Great video Stephen, thanks for sharing. Its very thought provoking and it would seem the future design of stadia holds both challenges and opportunities. At our level, new stadia have to cater for wider community benefits and I can quite see NLC being fully board with any new stadium plans we have if it meant we would provide community sports and leisure facilities and pick up the maintence tab. That would allow it to close its own facilities and invest that precious cash into other more important budgets.
I suppose new stadia are becoming like Type 26 frigates. As soon as they're finished, they're years out of date. There are other challenges as hinted at in the video. There's perhaps scope for the likes of Manchester United, Arsenal or Barcelona to open their own mini stadia in places like Scotland either on their own, or through partners like ourselves. Premier league games could be beamed live to their own dedicated stadia in the likes of Wishaw. Such games could attract maybe 10,000 - 15,000 fans for a game - replicate that all over Europe and other continents and you have a nice little money earner.
At our level I doubt if we'd be able to afford an all singing all dancing version but there's no reason why we couldn't afford more basic but modern and functional version, that fans could relate to. The design could also connect to our local heritage to avoid any development being soulless. Not sure about Birmingham's design though! It would be a real shame, if in 20 years' time, kids asked their parents what a brick, billet, pig iron or blast furnace was. I'm already seeing and hearing that kind of reaction with my own family.
The bottom line, as always, is the raising the funds.
I like the idea behind the Birmingham City stadium. It would be nice to have a tip of the hat to Ravenscraig incorporated within our stadium, whether that be a museum or just in the design.
Realistically, Kansas City Womens stadium is probably more in line with we could afford. Albeit I dont like stadia with open sides as per Falkirk or Hamilton.......
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10 hours ago, Goggles & Flippers said:
Very interesting!
Certainly a load of ideas in there to broaden our horizens as we move forward.
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I wouldnt have Gordon near it.
Celtic will isolate him and press him when he has the ball, much like we did with Hanley.
However, the ball over Sparrows head in behind has proved a weakness as well, so will be interesting to see what Jens prefers......
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28 minutes ago, wunderwell said:
Exactly - and him being on some PR pre game makes me think he will start and SOD at right back
If McGhee starts tomorrow, that would be a huge risk.
He has barely featured since his return to fitness and cant have anywhere near the minutes necessary to be thrown in from the start.
It would be very "Un-Jenslike" to throw him in like that.
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4 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:
Id Jordan McGhee not due some game time?
I would have thought if he was in JBAs plans his minutes would have been built up by now. He certainly cant start.
From the little Ive seen, he looked slow and ponderous. Not surprising given his injuries, but would have expected to see him feature more as he tried to regain fitness.
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Missing Welsh and Johnny K certainly weakens us in a squad sense as it removes options for freshening things up. However, SOD & McGinn have been very good in the middle together so Id expect them to start.
As Ive posted elsewhere, Celtic aren't without their own issues, with CVV, Johnston, Trusty, Engels and MacGregor all likely to be missing and possibly Tierney as well.
Centre half pairing likely to be Scales & Dane Murray, so I think they can be got at.
Martin O'Neill teams are generally solid and hard to play against, so Id expect a harder game.than we got at Fir Park, but by the same token they are not gonna play a low block and hit us on the counter, so we should get more space to play our football.
We need some chaos back in our lives! Go Ibi!
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SODs looks and sounds like a different player now. So pleased he is enjoying himself. Seems like one if lifes good guys!
Interesting he referenced that some managers can "throw you under the bus" wonder if Graham Alexanders ears were ringing! 😆😆😆
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3 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:
Yeah, that's him. The official site says he was McLean's assistant, but I honestly can't remember that.
I was very young, but I thought Craig Brown was McLeans assistant, or was he just a coach?
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19 hours ago, Stuwell2 said:
Agree with most of what you’ve said here including selling players when it benefits us best so I’m hoping that unless a crazy offer comes in for Just I’d like us to keep him for another season.
The one point I’d question is that the Well society is pulling the strings here. Yes we have 2 board members on the club board but I think the biggest influence is the chairman although I do acknowledge that the society - and us as members - has set the direction by fighting off that awful attempt to take over the club and was instrumental in getting changes to the club board that has lead us to where we are now.
what the society needs to do now is to somehow manage to increase the society’s membership numbers with new members and encourage back those who left after the takeover was rejected - hopefully this can be achieved but sadly so ex members I know are stubbornly refusing to agree even now that the result was the best outcome for the club.I think you need to look a little more closely at what happened last year.
The Well Society were absolutely marginalised by the old board, who were happy for us to be a token guesture and take our money when it suited.
We had no real power until the, then Society Board addressed these governance issues and flexed their muscles a little.
The reason we have 2 members on the board now and a Chairman and CEO who are in lockstep with the fan owned ethos, is because of the efforts of these indivuduals.
We are now a properly fan owned club with actual representation and a say in the big decisions effecting us.
Its sad that there are some still diseffected but if the Well Society hadnt acted so decisively we would now be in the hands of a charlatan and the family silver would have been pawned.
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Celtic v Motherwell 14/03/2026
in Club Chat
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Its the contesting the ball part that is the problem.
Players jostling and wrestling for the ball happens at every corner/free kick and is generally unpunished by referees until the ball comes in the vicinity of the players contesting.
At that point the players know they risk giving away a penalty which in this case you admit was rightly given.
If Longelo and Maeda have equal chance of getting their heads on the ball it probably isnt a red card, but Maeda rolls Longelo and gets in front of him, at that point Longelo just has to let go as there is no way he is getting to it.
He doesnt, prevents a clear goalscoring opportunity and given that he wasnt trying to get to the ball, just stop Maeda, its a red.
You cant change the wording of the laws of the game to suit our purposes.