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3 hours ago, MJC said:
I’ve been saying that for years. Trying to clam that it’s an “Old Firm problem” or “they’re just as bad as each other” lets the real culprits off the hook. And obviously you get the usual dribbling nonsense about saying as much equates to you being “pro-Rangers” or that “you’re giving strong vibes of Rangers being the big team you support” and such like.
It is of course much easier and dare I say it much safer to criticise Rangers as they don’t have the clout Celtic have in media and politics. It’s also quite fashionable to be a vocal Rangers hater and what I would also say is that had Rangers fans caused even half as much mayhem and damage at Fir Park over the years then A LOT more would have been made of it. It would probably be being discussed in Holyrood at some point.
On another issue, something I didn’t notice last night but did today when I saw it on X, once Celtic score the penalty and the pitch invasion happens, the game doesn’t restart with us taking centre. Beaton just blows for full time with hundreds of their hoardes still on the park, so basically Celtic and their fans can decide when the game stops as well? I’ve never seen that before and I’ve seen plenty of last minute penalties being scored but the other team always takes centre before the final whistle is blown, but not last night?
Scotland v Denmark.
Kenny McLean.
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4 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:
I don't always agree with you but think you get an unfair time of it on here sometimes. Until last night I would have disagreed with you over this, but I have now changed my view. Yes, Sevco fans have caused huge problems in the past thats a fact. However in recent times, Celtic fans are definitely the worst at Fir Park; I can't speak for elsewhere. The Government, media and Police will largely ignore their most recent behaviour, it but we can and should cut their allocation in future. Take a couple of thousand off their share i.e. most of the bottom tier.
I dont think anyone would argue that Celtic fans arent the worst at Fir Park. They absolutely are.
The problem by focusing on that is you ignore what goes on away from Fir Park.
Anyone looking at the Glasgow Derby at Ibrox and suggesting that the Union Bears were justified in their behaviour because Celtic fans encroached onto the field to celebrate are absolutely deluded. Our fans seemd to contain themselves last night.
And that wasnt an isolated incident. I submit the masked marauders in Santa hats running amok in Glasgow City centre earlier in the season.
For the avoidance of doubt, what happened at the end last night was a disgrace (particularly as it effected those in the disabled section most acutely) and the club should absolutely be complaining in the strongest possible terms to the SPFL and SFA and sanctions would undoubtedly be appropriate.
However, when you apply broad brush steokes to a situation to suit your own agenda, you tend to lose the room.
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Do the club get any money for the game being televised or does it all just roll into the prize pot?
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3 hours ago, grizzlyg said:
Exactly, pumped sellik 2-0 In December , won 3-2 at ibrox. Drew with hearts 3 times. We go for it every game...well apart from lieing doon against Falkirk 🤣🤣
Dunfermline fans are absolutely raging with us about that! 😜😜😜
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1 minute ago, weeyin said:
I read a few Sevco fans already spouting their conspiracy theories before today's OF game that Motherwell were going to lie down to Celtic because of all the "Celtic connections" in our team and because JBA wants the Celtic job.
Peak OF paranoia.
One or two Jambos spouting the same pish on Pie & Bovril.
Welsh cant play, McGinn is said to be injured, which leaves SOD as the only identifiable "Sellic Man" in our team, and I think he has done enough in his time here to prove that lying down is not in his make up.
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One of the good things about this team is that, even when we are not playing at our best, the workrate and detrmination to run for one another is always there.
Im not saying we have enough to win on Wednesday. But we certainly have enough about us not to lose, regardless of who starts.
Gonna be another cracking night under the lights.
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19 minutes ago, weeyin said:
Just seems to have an auto-charge function. He runs about like a maniac, gets chopped and looks like he's crocked. Then 10 seconds later, jumps back up again and off he goes.
If he has a strong World Cup he could bring in a nice transfer fee. Not that I want him to leave, but he's been my player of the season. Fantastic business bringing him in.
Id love him to still be here next season, but realistically?
He deserves a big move. I just hope its to a different league and for a hefty transfer fee.
We will need to replace him somehow!
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Just now, Welly Machine said:
Noticing a trend recently with opposition targeting Just for 'special' treatment.
Were all three Hearts bookings for fouls on him?
He definitely has been targetted.
The number of fouls committed on him in the last few games has been quite ridiculous.
I know he is quick and often nips the ball away before his opponent, but they are all leaving the foot in to ensure they stop him breaking away.
Thankfully he is young(ish) and quite hardy for a wee guy.
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1 hour ago, Orinoco said:
McGhee and McGinn apparently out for rest of season.
Thats really shit if confirmed.
Means we probably have to go with Gordon and SOD in the middle on Wednesday.
Thankfully Johnny K is back so hopefully he can at least start and give us 60 minutes as I dont fancy having Sparrow outside Gordon.
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Re the penalties.
For me, Kyziridis is running away from goal and has lost control of the ball. There is slight contact from Maswanhise, but Kyziridis heels are spring loaded and he throws himself to the ground quite embarassingly.
Ive seen them given, and I would have been screaming for it, but I think McLean gets that right, and fairplay to him for standing his ground.
My justification for that is the foul on Welsh for Shanklands goal. I dont think there was enough in that either, but there is way more contact than the penalty claim and the push stops Welsh getting any sort of jump on the ball.
Boyd and McFadden apply double standards there. If they think Kyziridis is a stonewall pen then it has to be a foul on Welsh. You cant have it both ways.
As for JTs pen. I was certain it was a pen at the game but when you see it slowed down, he definitely kicks the Hearts players leg and loses his balance. No pen for me.
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SODs was excellent but voted for Gordon purely because I had the absolute fear when I saw he was playing and he never put a foot wrong. Very good performance considering his lack of game time.
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Wow! Tough crowd!
Thoroughly enjoyed the game tonight. Big crowd, great atmosphere, end to end stuff and thought we were well worthy of our point.
Not the best football we have played this season, but that was mostly due to Hearts not allowing us to by going man for man and pressing us hard all over the park.
They forced us into playing the type of game they wanted to play, but we stood up to it and battled hard for our point.
Overall, pretty pleased with our nights work. Would have been nice to have won but that point could be very important.
Looking forward to Wednesday. Hopefully McGinn is fit and Fadinger is back.
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Halliday comes across really well in that interview.
He certainly isnt the character I had anticipated when we signed him.
Just goes to show, you should never judge a book by its cover.
I wish him well for whatever the future holds and look forward to seeing him in The Hunter next season!
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11 minutes ago, weeyin said:
I enjoy the podcast, but the presenters need to sit closer to each other - preferably beside each other - so the guest doesn't need to keep looking from left to right like they're watching tennis.,
Good point.
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10 hours ago, SteelmaninOZ said:
Very interesting interview.
Max comes across like a really good guy.
Be interesting to see what happens when Jens moves on. Does he go too, or are we looking at our next Head Coach?
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2 hours ago, Stuwell2 said:
I’ve stripped your post down to the point I want to reply to as I agree with most of what you’ve said but on this point I’d like to give my view of what we could do.
Tony Bloom at Hearts is showing that his model can potentially give him a return via a share of the money made from transfers and as such we should look for a similar type of investor willing to make a similar deal with us with preferably non voting shares like the Hearts deal - probably at a lesser level but still I’d be looking at circa £6M minimum for a maximum 20% shares coming not only from the society but also our private shareholders so between the society and private shareholders we still have 80% holding. A £6M investment matched by say £2 or £3M by the club would give a healthy pot for buying players over the next couple of seasons.
With the clubs position on and off the park this is probably the best time to make such a deal.
If no such deal is achievable at the moment then I think we should continue with the “organic growth “ that we are currently trying to achieve while continuing to look for a deal.I could live with that.
Hearts fell lucky with Bloom as he already had the analytics in place and the model had already proved successful elsewhere.
Not sure how many Tony Blooms, or Jamestowns there are out there, but if we could find someone trustworthy with the necessary finances / expertise then it could be a good fit.
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1 hour ago, texanwellfan said:
I’ve never really listened to him so can’t really say anything bout him. Not sure how long he’s been a “celebrity” but I’ve been here 37 years and I don’t recall being aware of him when we left.
He would likely have been a jobbing journalist at the Evening Times back then and not long out of College.
Off The Ball isnt what it was, but it does give clubs like Motherwell and St Johnstone (amongst others) a platform and exposure we probably wouldnt get if the presenters werent supporters of diddy clubs.
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19 minutes ago, mio said:
Steven McLean is the ref…. Fkn hell, an utter incompetent
At least he isnt on VAR! 😜😜😜
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The whole investment chat is wrong headed for me.
What is investment?
Normally it means putting money into something short term with the expectation of a financial return at some point in the future.
I dont see how any investor makes money out of Motherwell FC without asset stripping us.
Scottish football isnt awash with money like the English Premiership. So European Football would be the only way to make money from us honestly, and we cant realistically offer that to any investor on a regular basis.
Id love to know what the score is at Hibs. If they have lost £13m in the last 3 years, what are the terms & expectations of the investors?
Even if they are honourable, it cant be a bottomless pit and they will pull the plug at some point.
The best way for us is to grow the club into an attractive proposition and sell some of our shareholding, whilst maintaining our 51% stake so that no one can sell anything out from under us.
Seems to me we are quite well along that path with attendances up, money in the bank and some saleable assets on the books.
Add in a progressive manager and potential Conference League football, I think its fair to say we are headed in the right direction.
Certainly much stronger than we were with the Barmack offer on the table.
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1 hour ago, johnstone said:
Let’s not kid ourselves on here. There is a very high chance Jens will be away in the summer.
I would imagine a lot of clubs across Europe will be keeping tabs on him.It’s the way it is. Anyone who does well at our club has a high chance of not being there for long.
I think most of us have made peace with that fact.
But I dont think I could handle him going to another club in Scotland. Particularly if its one of the ugly sisters. That would be hard to take.
Im hopeful that he might stay another season and see out his contract. But if he doesnt, Id prefer he went down south or back to Europe.
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1 hour ago, grizzlyg said:
Zimbabwe supporters club will disagree. They were even amazed TJ wasnt an April player of month nomination
No harm to them. I love their enthusiasm for their country and its players. But they will disappear like "snaw aff a dyke" from our social media pages the minute JT moves on.
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1 hour ago, Wellsince1976 said:
Not ideal staying in Prestwick. Hopefully fixed tomorrow.
Phone the ticket office and buy them on the phone. They will hold them for you at ticket office or post them out. Still plenty time to get there.
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1 hour ago, wellfan said:
These plastic pitches have no place in the top flight. I’ve said it before: if you can’t grow and maintain grass in Scotland, you’ve no business running a professional football club.
I guess the argument against that is the state of Aberdeen & Dundee United's pitches this winter.
Im generally in agreement with grass being a requirement. But Id rather play on yesterdays pitch than the Pittodrie tattie field we got in the cup.
Even ours wasnt great midwinter, albeit it played ok and there were mitigating factors.
Edit: to add, Falkirk played very good football yesterday. But I guess they are used to the speed of the pitch.
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Slattery for me.
The only one consistently trying to get on the ball and make things happen.
I wouldnt have taken him off.
Motherwell v Celtic 13/05/2026
in Club Chat
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There was only 10 seconds of added time left when the incident occurred. So adding time for the VAR wouldnt have occurred. Barely enough time to allow the penalty to be taken.