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7 hours ago, thewelllfan said:
I just think our whole selling point to players is come showcase your talent and if the interest is there and the fees right. They move on.
We could very easily be without a variation of JBA, Just, Maswanhise, Longelo, Watt, Fadinger, Slattery, Longelo, Ward I suspect they'll all attract interest elsewhere.
It absolutely IS our selling point.
But that doesnt mean we have to sell all our good players at the one time.
They all signed contracts they were happy with.
The club wont stand in their way, but we WILL manage the squad to ensure we remain competitive.
The manager said as much the other day.
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Priestman for me.
Should never have been subbed as Fadinger and Watt both had off games.
Hope Jens isnt doing the seniority thing. That only works up to a point.
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2 week break to re-charge the batteries and think up new strategies.
Just and Maswanhise being away will hamper preparations and maybe rule them out of this one, depending on how much gametime they get and flights back.
Could do with Koutroumbis and Longelo being back.
Falkirk losing again today keeps them off our tails, but we could do with 3 points when we are off to Tynecastle before the split.
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Thought we were decent enough first half without being exceptional. The offside goal.was hard to take but the right decision and we didnt carve out any other clear cut chances.
Second half, the drop off.was considerable and probably the poorest half since Falkirk at home.
Thought Fadinger looked outnof sorts today, not sure if it was the mask/sun giving him problems but he wasnt his usual self.
I thought subbing Priestman was a mistake as he was having a much better game and we looked worse after he went off.
Too many stray passes, although Hibs press caused us problems and closed off a lot of space, which slowed us down and caused us to go backwards.
Nice to get the clean sheet and maintain our unbeaten run at home, but it feels like 2 points dropped and Jens is gonna have to think up a new plan as teams have started to get organised around what we do.
We may not lose many more games, but at the moment its hard to see where we win one.
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57 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:
Pretty much agree with that although I'd also try to move Callum Hendry on , if at all possible. Jordan McGhee seems to be out of favour and I wouldn't be surprised if we try to move him on. .
Aye, didnt really look at those still in contract that we might like to move on. Stama being another one, but Ive already mentally got him being a Sydney player next season.
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Only got round to watching this last night as there was hee haw on the tv.
Im acually raging about the tackle on Just by Oxlade - Chamberlain now.
Never thought too much of it at the time and felt a yellow was probably about right, but when you see the pictures that were available to VAR and the intitial point of contact, I just cant fathom how they dont think thats a red card. Especially when Beaton tells them he has a mark on his shin!
Least said about the Gordon red card the better.
Totally pointless exercise now as they are just using the review to justify decisions and save face, rather than admit mistakes and actually improve the standard of officiating.
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9 hours ago, SteelmaninOZ said:
Absolutely fascinating podcast!
Stuart is a wealth of information on the rich history of our club and love the enthusiasm that both he and Nick have for The Trust.
Really looking forward to seeing the improvements around the stadium and hopefully, at some point, a museum!
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1 hour ago, bobbybingo said:
I think he gave his view on Hanley the last time Hibs were here.
And was pilloried for it by sections of our media!
Precious wee darlings!
😍😍😍
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3 hours ago, Motherwell Daft said:
I dont think the club would stand in the way of any of our sellable assets if a good offer came along, one who might also go is Ward, a keeper who's had 20 clean sheets is a rare commodity in any league.
Purely going on what Jens said yesterday.
They will NOT all be sold at the same time, as we want to maintain the integrity of the playing squad.
Makes sense. We are not just a money making machine. We are here to win football games.
We cant stand in any individual players way indefinitely, but if for example good offers come in for Maswanhise and one other, I can see us asking other players to be patient with us.
I wouldnt be too worried if Watt or Fadinger had to move on as the replacement is in the building, but I wouldnt be keen to let both move until further replacements had been sourced.
I think thats where we can be cute and time it to our advantage.
I dont see any last minute deals being done at the end of transfer windows without the ability to replace an outgoing player.
Just will be the problem. Where do you find a replacement for him?
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I think Maswanhise will be sold.
Welsh will go back to Celtic and be sold or put out on loan again. If we could get him back without breaking the bank great, but more likely we are looking at another player we can develop/sell on.
Of those OOC.
Gordon, Halliday, Robinson, Nicholson I would let go.
Koutroumbis and Slattery Id offer new deals, albeit Slattery will probably move on.
Just, Watt & Fadinger will all attract attention, so good to hear Jens say, they wont all be sold at the same time.
I think there has probably been a conversation with JT assuring him that we wont step in his way in the summer. The rest will depend on the bids received. But we are undoubtedly in the driving seat. Particularly if we get a good fee for JT.
Looking forward to a positive window with a net gain in cash and squad depth.
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Gonna be really interesting to see how Jens approaches this one. Obviously we have issues at full back with Longelo suspended and Koutroumbis injured.
I do wonder if we might go 3 at the back again with Sparrow and Luca Ross as wing backs?
Or will we see McGhee get a start?
If we go with wing backs do we play Eythor and get crosses into the box and give Hibs something different to think about?
Good to hear Just is fit and should start. Slattery has looked good the last few weeks so probably Said to drop out if we need to shake up the midfield.
Over to you Jens!
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3 hours ago, SteelmaninOZ said:
The gaffer
Really loving the Jens interviews.
Our players will be sold, because thats our model.
But they will be sold for a fee that we believe benefits the club AND most importantly, they wont all be sold at the one time.
Basically, no chance of a wholesale clearout in the close season.
Top man.
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5 hours ago, Spiderpig said:
If we win on saturday we are 10 clear and at least 14 goals ahead of Hibs, thats a lot to overhaul in the last 7 games, it would need a collapse of epic proportions from us, and i cant see that happening.
I agree.
Its about the same as we would need to do to pip Hearts for the title and everyone pretty much accepts thats not happening!
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50 minutes ago, Wellfan91 said:
If we finish 5th, do we need Celtic to win the cup to get us a conference league qualifier or would that go to Falkirk if they lose in the final?
If Celtic win the Cup it goes to 5th in the League.
Any other Cup Winner and 5th misses out....
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1 hour ago, mfc88 said:
I was one of said posters, and taken nothing personally 😁
Defending a corner is entirely different to defending, say, a player through on goal though. If you are defending a corner man for man, I am not sure how you can without knowing where your opponent is...
Longelo is looking at the ball to begin, maeda makes the run at which point longelo, turns to face him, ends up in a knot and fouls him.
No issue with the VAR intervention for a penalty. Its the VAR intervention for a red and how it can be "clearly and obviously" deemed as anything other than "hes tried to defend the corner and made a mess of it".
Its the contesting the ball part that is the problem.
Players jostling and wrestling for the ball happens at every corner/free kick and is generally unpunished by referees until the ball comes in the vicinity of the players contesting.
At that point the players know they risk giving away a penalty which in this case you admit was rightly given.
If Longelo and Maeda have equal chance of getting their heads on the ball it probably isnt a red card, but Maeda rolls Longelo and gets in front of him, at that point Longelo just has to let go as there is no way he is getting to it.
He doesnt, prevents a clear goalscoring opportunity and given that he wasnt trying to get to the ball, just stop Maeda, its a red.
You cant change the wording of the laws of the game to suit our purposes.
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Fantastic interview.
Ferry comes across as a total fanboy, but I actually quite like that.
The insight into Jens mind and thought processes is incredible.
He really is a special guy.
(Psychological safety!)
The more I hear him speak though, the more I feel he see's us a project he can mould in his own image.
He clearly loves it here, and I think it will take more than just money to prise him away. It will require the right club, with the right ethos that he views as a compatible match for him and his aspirations.
(I am aware there are likely to be a few of them around and at some point one of them will come for him).
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22 minutes ago, mio said:
I got around to watching the game again. I think Chamberlains crunch on Just was a booking although I have seen reds given. I don’t think it was intentional and it wasn’t as bad as Gogic on Slattery which also resulted in a booking so fair enough.
Maeda should have got at least a booking for the arm to face on said. The boot in the baws afterwards definitely merited that in its own right.
I think JTs penalty claim is a penalty…. It’s a push in the back and if JT stumbled and goes to ground like a normal human being I think it’s given….. unfortunately he does what appears to be a star jump and makes the whole thing look ridiculous and I can understand why they’ve not given it.the penalty was unfortunately a penalty. I’d have been screaming for that if it was at our end. The double jeopardy stuff is beyond me though and beyond the referees as well…. God knows what the bar is with that.
Ive seen a number of posters referring to the double jeopardy rule, so this isnt directed at you, but......
It only applies if the defender has made a genuine attempt to play the ball.
Longelo makes no attempt to play the ball, so the double jeopardy rule does not apply here.
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Elijah Just.
Given the treatment that he got from Celtic throughout the game his performance was magnificent.
Full of energy, full of running, great out ball and lovely finish for his goal (Im not having it that he didnt strike it cleanly).
He is the difference maker in our team and the one player we cant do without.
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3 hours ago, Spiderpig said:
Alan Campbell coming on as a sub for St Mirren v Rangers.
Thought he did reasonably well when he came on.
St Mirren look a shadow of the team they were in the league cup though.
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17 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:
If you think our season's basically been over since Pittodrie, fair enough. I don't feel that way at all, and whatever happens in the summer, I'll wring every bit of enjoyment I can get out of the remaining games.
I agree.
Using the above logic our season has been over in January for the last 4 years as we have never thought winning the league was possible.
Whether you believe we had any chance of winning the league this year or not, just having a conversation about it was something new.
This season wont be over for me until the last ball is kicked and we see how high up the league (or otherwise) we finish.
I think 4th and European football would be a very good return on top of the entertainment we have enjoyed this season.
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2 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:
My target this season was 7th spot. So, we've more than achieved that. Bottom line its been a great season results wise. Performance wise even better. As the season progressed and we settled in 4th spot I became increasingly optimistic that we could finish there. I never thought, at any stage, that a title challenge was even a remote possibility. Ambition wise, that left a top 3 finish, and I always felt that was extremely remote and is now well outwith our grasp. My disappointment at Dens was our chance to win our game in hand and pretty much seal a 4th place finish and we failed.
To put things in perspective, this is JBA's first season in charge and he's introduced a completely alien way of playing. I've been surprised at just how well the squad adapted. Our possession stats rocketed and just look at the number of clean sheets we achieved - unheard of in my time. Its the best football I've seen from us since I was a young lad i.e. the latter days of the Ancell era. Is it the best Motherwell team I've seen? No. The team of the mid 70s, which won nothing, was a better all round team.
Why am I questioning our mentality in big games? Rangers in 2 home games; Hearts at Tynecastle where we blew a 3 goal lead; 2 losses at Parkhead; League Cup Semi Final defeat to St Mirren; Aberdeen loss in the Scottish Cup; and Dundee at Dens. Now I'm not saying that all of that was down to our mentaility because it wasn't. JBA settling in tactics wise; poor refereeing/VAR; and sheer bad luck have all played a part, but lack of that hard mentality has been a theme running through these games. As I'm finishing this post, I've just read Thewellfan's post. To crib from him/her our away form has been fair at best. Our possession stats haven't always translated into hard goals and results.
We are where we are and I'm more than happy with that. I'm confident these weaknesses will be rectiifed in time for next season.
Apologies for the rant and straying off topic.
Dont disagree with any of that.
The only thing I would take issue with is that its a "mentality" thing.
Some bad decision making, lack of quality at vital times, bad refereeing decisions and just plain bad luck have all contributed to the games we have lost this season.
At no point have I felt that we just never turned up or bottled it.....
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1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said:
100% agree Joe. It was a clear penalty and possible red card - I don't know the exact rules about the card in such circumstances. Longelo appeared to elbow his opponent in a bout of wrestling - was that what it was for? If so why wasn't Sevelj red carded at Fir Park for a similar elbowing incident at Fir Park a few weeks ago?
Its always hard to tell from carefully edited BBC highlights but on the limited evidence I saw, our defence was pretty poor on several occasions and Ward seemed to have an off day.
I think the red card is for DOGSO.
My reading is that Longelo and Maeda are wrestling with each other prior to the corner. Maeda rolls Longelo and gets in front of him. Longelo continues to hold Maeda who has the opportunity to head it towards goal. Longelo prevents this and Maeda goes to ground.
If Longelo lets go there is no penalty and no red card. Maeda probably scores, but we still have 11 v 11.
Its a sore one, and a lesson learned for Longelo, but I dont think we can argue it.
I know some folk think that "double jeopardy" should come into play, but thats only if there is a genuine attempt to play the ball. Longelo has no idea where the ball is, let alone trying to play it.
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1 hour ago, stv said:
When was the last time you were at Parkhead or Ibrox it happen all the time. Opposition red cards for fuk all.
I think Tex meant for wrestling in the box at a corner.
I agree, you dont usually see that. However, when it happens at the back post, your defender is isolated and the keeper has come and missed leaving the goal wide open, it creates a particular set of circumstances that is hard to defend.
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2 hours ago, Kmcalpin said:
I would also include the Aberdeen cup game and the recent loss at Dens Park in my assessment. However, both of those clubs also have bigger budgets than us.
I wouldnt include the Aberdeen Cup game.
Nothing wrong with our mentality in that game. Even after the first freak red card, we regained our composure and control over the game.
At 10 v 10 we were the better team and looked like we had every chance to get back in it.
Our second red card kills it, and Im not having that as a red card ever.
Killie had a player brought down on the edge of the box tonight goalside and absolutely getting a shot away. Yellow card.
The standard of officiating in this country is horrendous.
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Motherwell V Hibs 21/03/2026
in Club Chat
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Just certainly does appear to being singled out for "special treatment" the referees should be doing more to protect him. If they dont, guys like Said will end up getting booked or sent off trying defend their team mate.
Dickinson is a really poor referee which, given the pool he swims in, is really saying something.....