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On 9/4/2025 at 10:48 PM, Spiderpig said:
How JBA wants Ward to play is not the issue here. The problem is Ward's continuing inability to meet one of the fundamental requirements of being a goal keeper, ie catching the ball, how many points does he cost us before he gets benched.
Oh aye, totally get that.
But if we swap Ox in as a safe pair of hands and he ends up giving goals away because he is shite with his feet and JBA insists he plays out anyway, we really arent any further forward.
Hopefully he is good enough.....
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22 hours ago, joewarkfanclub said:
Will wait to see how he looks in a Motherwell jesrsey, but cant say I was ever overly impressed when he played against us for Celtic.
All relative though. If he is better than we have in the building, he will do fine.
18 hours ago, El Grew said:And exactly how many times did he play against us that warrants this judgment? 😵💫
18 hours ago, robsterwood said:He scored against well in 2021 . A game they won and also scored in win against real bets shortly after. But must have been poor as jwfanclubbsaid. Must take a lot time impres that dude.
Not sure what part of my post is that remarkable that it has drawn 2 negative posts.
At no point have I stated Welsh was a bad player, or wouldnt do a job for us.
Im just of the opinion he isnt the most impressive Celtic defender Ive ever seen and we are taking him on loan with an injury record that would suggest he might not be able to play a lot of games.
If he has goals in his locker, thats a good thing.
I do hope he is the second coming of Paolo Maldini however, and can lead us to a cup win!
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20 minutes ago, claretband said:
Re the Ox vs Ward debate, has everyone forgotten how well Ox played before the injury? Albeit he did make a couple of errors but he has saved us countless times as well.
Unless the injury has somehow degraded his ability I'd be perfectly happy putting him back in.
I like Ox.
He has made a few mistakes in the past, but he is a big unit that generally commands his box and very good shotstopper.
The only thing Im unsure of is how good he is with the ball at his feet. His distribution was better than Kelly's, but thays a really low bar and what JBA wants from his keeper is way beyond that.
Be interesting to see what happens.
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Tickets are on sale.
However, no mention of how many we got and no map to select your seat, so pot luck if you are open to the elements or not.
Really fancy the game, but not sure Im gonna pay £25 to drive all that way for a potential soaking!
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48 minutes ago, texanwellfan said:
I thought Nisbet played for them all last season?
He did. But he was back at Milwall until last night.
Hence why they have been struggling to score goals as they only had Yengi and Sockler.....
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1 hour ago, texanwellfan said:
Perhaps a clause in the loan agreement that we can bring him back anytime if needed or specifically if Longellonis out for a period??
Aye that would certainly make sense.
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40 minutes ago, Yabba's Turd said:
The club apparently buzzing they got a player of Welsh's calibre.
Will wait to see how he looks in a Motherwell jesrsey, but cant say I was ever overly impressed when he played against us for Celtic.
All relative though. If he is better than we have in the building, he will do fine.
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It would be churlish to suggest we have had anything else other than a successful window, but I am a little disappointed we let Wilson go out on loan without a replacement.
He may have his deficiencies, ,but in my eyes at least he was a decent enough back up, in the same way Halliday is for the midfield spots.
I guess if JBA doesnt rate him and the boy wants to play, fair enough. He might yet develop with more first team football at Raith.
Just not convinced that we have adequate cover if anything happens to Longelo as we would be looking at SOD, McGinn or Halliday in there.
As for the rest of the squad. Midfield is excellent. Wide areas look good. Up front remains to be seen but at least Maswanhise is scoring for now.
GK needs to settle down with either Ox being given a shot to see if he can do any better or just standing by Ward in the hope he can iron out the mistakes.
Good first window for JBA. Still some weaknesses to address, but we are gonna be fun to watch and hopefulky we ecan get enough wins to allow him time to build.
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Welsh will be decent with the ball at his feet which is potentially why we have gone for him. But my impression, and backed up by a Celtic supporting mate, is that he is a bit on the soft side physically and prone to injuries.
In the absence of a better option, I guess he will need to do, but not one I will be getting delirious about.
A left back is still required. So hopefully we have one more incoming.
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Just now, joewarkfanclub said:
McGhee WAS back in training and available last week. If he has broken down again, that would be a concern.
He arrived injured. Got fit. Got injured again and was only just back.
Starting to think the Kettlewell curse lives on!
Had he actually played any minutes for us yet? I cant think of any.....
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McGhee WAS back in training and available last week. If he has broken down again, that would be a concern.
He arrived injured. Got fit. Got injured again and was only just back.
Starting to think the Kettlewell curse lives on!
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Dundee looked pretty toothless against United yesterday. But they did defend very well at Ibrox, so could be another 70% possession game with the onus on us to break them down.
Wouldnt expect us to lose this one, but a lot will depend on whether we can create more clear cut chances and take enough of them to make sure we can cover any more mistakes at the back.
Hopefully Slattery hasnt been sold / isnt badly injured and can be available and Hendry/Said/Osong/RCC are another 2 weeks along the road to full fitness.
Id put Ox back in goals.
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59 minutes ago, wellfan said:
Unfortunately, I fear McGhee might be this season’s Callachan.
Kettlewells last hurrah!
He was fit and back in training last week. If he has broken down again thats a concern.
We havent missed him thus far, but he was a guy, I was hoping could cover a number of positions, so would have been good to have as a squad player as the season progressed.
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Would be sad to see Slattery go as we are just getting to see his full potential in a team that plays football.
That said, we are a selling club so if the offer is a good one, we cant really afford to turn it down.
Hoping it is just a minor injury and not a cover story for a sale, but if we are moving him on lets hope its a 7 figure fee.
We might end up being busier in the next 24 hours than I thought!
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11 minutes ago, ropy said:
Koutroumbis started the first game of the season at left back,
I think its accepted he is currently our first choice right back though. Id be surprised if JBA thinks that is sufficient cover.....
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7 minutes ago, Kmcalpin said:
My thoughts too Joe. Having said that this move doesn't surprise me, as Ewan Wilson has failed to develop after a promising start and soesn't seem to fit our current system.
Oh totally.
Boy needs games to see if he can develop past this current plateau that he is on.
Not currently what we need at left back, but who knows, he could be in the future.
We definitely do need cover for Longelo though. Dynamic fullbacks are integral to how we are playing.
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I presume we must have signed another left back who is still to be announced. Otherwise we are pretty short there, with only SOD or Halliday ever having played there before? Neither have the legs to do what Longelo does.....
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7 minutes ago, Wellfan91 said:
He needs more than games I hate to say it, unfortunately don't think he's good enough! He's chunked up that much he can hardly run and because of that never takes on a man, always passes backwards and inside. Pity as I thought we had another find from the youth teams this time last season but he has totally regressed since.
Chunked up, as in lifting too many weights, or not eating properly?
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I sway back and forth on the issue.
I do hate what UEFA and FIFA are doing to football as its a reflection generally of society, with the rich getting richer and the poor getting poorer.
That said, its the world that we live in, so, short of giving football up altogether, we as fans just thave to roll with it.
Re the specific point on co-efficient? I dont get overly exercised about it. It would be nice if we didnt have to play so many qualifiers to reach a group stage when we do actually qualify, but you ultimately still have to beat better teams to get there.
That being the case I just go with how I feel. I generally like to see the Scottish teams do well as I think it reflects better on the country and our league. A bit of pride / self respect if you like. And there is the solidarity payments which cant be ignored.
I quite enjoyed the Hibs game last night (they are comfortably the best Scottish team Ive seen this season) and I would have liked to have seen Aberdeen progress. Even if it is just for the selfish reason of making it harder for them to balance upcoming league games!
Rangers and Celtic not so much. Its quite amusing to see Rangers eat themselves alive and Celtic blow the chance to remain streets ahead of their rivals for years to come by maintaining their biscuit tin mentality.
But generally? Not gonna lose any sleep over it. Its all about what we do thats most important for me, so a win and 3 points tomorrow is my priority!
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22 minutes ago, star sail said:
I just don't get the hatred towards Kettlewell.
He saved us from relegation in his first season in charge, there is almost no doubt about that. We got our first league win at Ibrox in many years. He got the best out of KVV, turned Theo Bair into a sellable asset and introduced Lennon Miller to the first team squad.
It is generally agreed that he worked his socks off for the club to the point where it all got too much in the end.
When the fans turned on him in the last few games ( as they did very vocally) he reacted in kind and made some ill judged decision. It happens with human beings under considerable pressure.
Would any one of us want him back as manager of our club? No.
Does he really deserve to be slaughtered for contributing to the continued SPFL status of our club, a status that allows JBA to now do his thing? I don't think he does.
There were some comments over the last few weeks about Dougie Imrie being the pantomime villain and how tragedy shows how shallow those negative emotions actually are.
Do we really need Kettlewell to be another pantomime villain so that we can enjoy the football and feel validated in our opinions?
Mmmmmm.....
Maybe! 😍😍😍
I think if he hadnt left the way he did most fans wouldnt be overly fussed about the way it played out or his return. But he did that. Nobody else.
So whilst I agree with your point in principle (particularly as it was me that called Dougie Imrie our pantomime villain) it is still football, it is still tribal, and most of us are utter hypocrites!
My main point about this not getting too heated and personal before the game is that I think it might actually impact negatively on the team ifnit gets too toxic, and I wouldnt want the "feel good factor" that we are experiencing just now to be diminished because of fit.
However, ultimately its football. The fans will do what they want to do and theres not a blind bit if difference anyone on here can make of it.
Fingers crossed for a great game, a grwat atmosphere and a Motherwell win.
Stuart who? 😍😍😍
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1 hour ago, wellfan said:
And here I thought a home crowd creating an intimidating atmosphere for the visitors was a positive.
We can do that without targetting Kettlewell. He wasnt the manager of Rangers and the atmosphere was great at that game.......
Edit: I have no issues with us giving him it tight at the end of the game if we have won. He has certainly earned it......
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1 minute ago, wellfan said:
He deserves every bit of criticism he may get for being dishonest and disrespectful. If it happens on Saturday, it will not make Motherwell fans look bad but show us standing up for ourselves. And if he thinks that justifies his previous opinions and lies, then so be it. He is a twat.
Of course he deserves criticism. But its got nothing to do with Motherwell fans showing themselves up. Its got everything to do with providing a distraction from what is important. Ignore him. Win the game. Gloat later.
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Im another one who didnt mind Kettlewell too much whilst he was here. He did work bloody hard and did his best whilst here. The results and performances initially were very good. But his last 6 months were horrendous. His stubbornous to change, his downfall. And the way he left unforgiveable.
Letting Saturday be about him though would be a distraction from what is really important, getting our first 3 points of the season.
Once thats in the bag he becomes fair game and should get both barrells!
Until then, just back the team like we did against the dead club and we will be fine.
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That dinosaur may yet still qualify us for our first World Cup in 28 years.....
PS if we have a Scotland Caps clause with Udinese, then that 90 secs could end up being very financially rewarding for us!