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  1. 36 minutes ago, MJC said:

    You need to actually be in the final to have a chance of lifting the cup and we won’t be because we won’t get past St.Mirren.

    Absolutely no assumptions being made here.

    But the point was made that we havent been winning finals since 1991 because we always come up against one of the ugly sisters and other teams that have won trophies in that time by luckily avoiding them.

    Just pointing out there has been an outlier.......

  2. 17 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

    What always pisses me off is whenever we get to a final it's the OF waiting on us (1991 excluding)

    Since we last won in 1991. There have been winners who didn't face the OF.

    Winners:  Scottish Cup: Hearts faced Grena , St Johnstone faced Hibs, ICT faced Falkirk, Dundee Utd faced Ross County, Kilmarnock faced Falkirk. League Cup: Livingston faced Hibs, Hibs faced Kilmarnock , St Mirren faced Hearts, Aberdeen faced ICT. 

    If we get to the final it will be my 6th and we will have faced the OF in 5 of them.

    Aberdeen beat Celtic to lift the Scottish Cup 6 months ago.

    It can be done......

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  3. 2 hours ago, MJC said:

    I know we’ve got Dundee Utd on Wednesday before this but I am absolutely dreading this on Saturday and think it’s got all the hallmarks of a disastrous and sickening night for us. One of those games we’ll look back on for years and shudder like Rangers in 2012, Airdrie Semi Final in mid 70s, losing to ten man Aberdeen in the QFS when the Old Firm were already out and so on.

    I don’t know how it will pan out obviously but I am absolutely convinced we will lose one way or another.

    ”Mind that St.Mirren LCSF in 2025? Jeez don’t even go there, I still have nightmares about that one”

    edit: And if/when we do lose then I will 100% be supporting whichever Old Firm side in the final, none of this birthday caird nonsense like Tam Cowan will inevitably come out with like “ye know whit, fair play tae St.Mirren an am delighted fur ma St.Mirren pals an a’ll be cheering them oan in the final cos that’s what fitbaawww is aw aboot. Course ah would a loved it if Motherwell had goat there but fur a wee diddy team like us just gettin tae a semi final is fantaaaastic it wis a great day oot, few beers, game a fitbaawww then oot efterwards fur a curry, which ah must add wis absolootly top notch”

    Not for me sorry. If we can’t win the trophy and have our day in the sun then I certainly don’t want St.Mirren to have theirs.

    Firstly, thanks for your prediction. I feel much more relaxed about the game now!

    Secondly, are you sure? Even if its those beastly Celtic fans that will be celebrating a victory?

    Surely you would rather St Mirren fans were cheering than the worst fans in Scotland.

  4. Am I mis-remembering, or was the "professional foul" not punishable by a red card back in the day (70's).

    And if so, why did it change?

    I have vague recollections of Motherwell players being hauled down on the half way line and red cards being shown.

    Could have been a pre cursor to the last man / clear goalscoring opportunity rule, but I kinda feel that it was a thing.......

  5. 32 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:

    Just cos I was curious.

    Shots on target (average, league matches only)

    1. Hibernian - 6.0

    2. Hearts - 5.8

    3. Dundee Utd - 5.6

    4. Celtic - 5.2

    5. Rangers - 4.8

    6. Falkirk - 4.5

    7. Kilmarnock 3.7

    8. Aberdeen 3.6

    9. Livingston 3.6

    10. Motherwell 3.55

    11. St Mirren - 3.0

    12. Dundee - 2.4

    I guess our conversion rate is better than we thought then?

  6. I think the issue with Welsh is that he is no longer a young player and unlikely to develop into a player that will be dependable for them in Europe, or sold on for a fee.

    That being the case, they need to clear some space for the next project.

    Welsh has been impressive for us since he arrived and is clearly better than anything else we had, whether there will be a queue of bigger clubs lining up for him when his Celtic contract expires, Im not so sure.

    Id be more than happy for us to get him on a contract though.

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  7. 3 hours ago, wellfan said:

    We’re being sold a sham in Scotland that would never fly in the English top flight, yet we just sit and accept it every week. Budget VAR tech, incompetent officials, and plastic pitches. I’ve had enough.

    I hear you buddy, but you're still going on Wednesday though, right?

  8. 10 hours ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

    Correct the pace on that pitch today was ridiculously slow. Whilst not to blame for every intercepted pass it certainly played a part. 

    It also took Longelo, Said and Maswanhise out the game as it was nigh impossible to dribble on effectively.

    Given that they are our "chaos agents" thats a big part of our game nullified before we start.

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  9. 4 hours ago, Richie said:

    I've questioned a few offside decisions in the past with the lines, because surely, by definition, they need to be drawn parrallel to the markings (goal-line, box, halfway line) on the park. On occasion it has seemed like the haven't 

    I think the VAR technology can provide the angles to draw the lines. But we paid for the cheap version with less cameras which, by definition will be less accurate. 

    It therefore stands to reason that, with very tight decisions like today's, its hard to have confidence in its accuracy.

    So although it isnt a subjective thing, the "clear and obvious" is still a fair shout......

  10. The win today should take a bit of the pressure off and being back on the grass should allow us to be a bit more free flowing again.

    Hopefully Longelo is ok, although I would be just as happy to rest him for the semi final if required.

    Everyone else should be fitter and sharper as a result of todays run out.

    Im not convinced United are all they are cracked up to be. Decent, yes. Beatable, certainly.

    Id take a draw, but 3 points would be magnificent for the teams  confidence ahead of Saturday.

  11. Slim pickings today. Some very average perfmances. Watt and Fadinger gave the ball away a lot more than usual. JT was anonymous and Longelo looked like he had the wrong boots on.

    For me Just was the stand out player.

    Not everything was coming off this week, but he kept plugging away trying to open the door, was very unfortunate with the 2 disallowed goals, so really nice that he got a deserved winner!

  12. Probably the poorest we have played all season, so more than a bit ironic to get the 3 points.

    I thought the pitch played a huge part. Despite being a brand new surface, if you dont water it, its gonna play slow and sticky. Clearly a deliberate ploy from Livvy to disrupt our rythmn, and it worked.

    Too many of our key players failed to cope with it and despite still being the better team, we werent anywhere near as effective as usual.

     Good to see Slattery back and his pass to Just for the winner is sublime.

    Thought Walsh was very inconsistent with his decisions and let Livvy away with repeated fouling and feigning injury to disrupt the game, and the 2 offside goals are very marginal, particularly the first one, where the VAR camera angle is beyond a joke.

    Big win for us. Avoid defeat on Wednesday (or even better win) and we can go into the semi final with a lot of confidence.

  13. 6 hours ago, robsterwood said:

    Semi final not massive as it's old firm in final. Would be more interesting if final was against other side. Been to last 3 finals against old firm and never even competed in the games. 

    Seriously?

    How any Motherwell fan can so easily dismiss getting to a cup final is beyond me.

    Im 56 years old and Ive seen us play in 5.

    Ok, we have only won one of them, and having either Celtic or Rangers in the final always makes things harder. But these are not strong Rangers and Celtic teams, and this Motherwell team has already shown it can go toe to toe with both of them this season.

    The League Cup semi final is a huge game for us.

    Given that we cant win the league, surely we can still dream of winning a cup?

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  14. 2 hours ago, well_said said:

    We have got a home game v Dundee United in between. 

    Not sure what that has to do with my point?

    If Stama, Hendry or anyone else is risked on the plastic and get injured, they will likely miss the semi final.

    However, still need to fulfill the fixture and could do with the 3 points.

  15. Its gonna be interesting to see who is risked on the plastic pitch.

    I know its a significantly better surface than the previous incarnation, but it still has to be a consideration.

    With Stama and Hendry both coming back from injuries it could be a tight call up front (Surely Osong doesnt start?).

    Also with Koutroumbis and Longelo both going off flast week, will both be fit enough to be considered?

    Big decisions for the manager with one eye inevitably being on the semi final......

  16. Ive never seen that crest either (I do like it).

    Not sure we had an official one before the current one?

    Certainly not on our shirts.

    I only ever recall the MFC script that we have on our away shirts.

  17. 40 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:

    Yeah but I've already seen comments on social media like "get this tippy happy stuff to fuck,  we just need to win" or "Id rather watch shite and win" granted it's only a few voices but I can see it now if we end up bottom of the league and out the cup. Fans are fickle that's why the next 3 games are extremely important. Embed the feel good factor keep the impressive uptick in attendances that's what three good results can do. 

    I agree with this.

    Next 3 games are huge.

    The manager and team have had a lot of buy in from the majority of the support over the new philosophy as we can see the long term benefits of what it could bring.

    But the cup semi final and more entertaining football aside, there havent been the tangible results required to prove it can also be successful.

    We need something from the next week to hang on to, otherwise the murmurings from the more reactionary within our support will begin to be more audible.

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  18. 57 minutes ago, Richie said:

    From the training pics it looks as if Longelo is fine

    Longelo, Koutroumbis & Slattery all in the training pics which is encouraging.

    I agree that Gordon & Welsh should start. Although this Livvy side are not the long ball, physical side of old, Gordon still provides more set piece security.

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  19. 2 hours ago, MJC said:

    Celtic fans tend to be a lot more anti-Scottish than Rangers fans do. I think more of them now associate themselves with Scotland/being Scottish since the 2014 Independence referendum but that’s more for political reasons rather than football ones. 
     

    Rangers have probably done more for the National side than any other club over the years. There was a time that the vast majority of the Scotland support was made up by Rangers fans, back when football and politics weren’t so unhealthily intertwined. They’ve also supplied some of Scotland’s best ever players like Ally McCoist, Jim Baxter, Barry Ferguson, Andy Goram and more. 

    Was trying to stay out of this debate, but I cant let this one pass as its just not true.

    Ive followed Scotland home and away for 40 years and whilst older generations of Celtic fans definitely favoured Ireland over Scotland, that was more to do with the ongoing religious bigotry some of them experienced living in Scotland than being "anti-scottish". The younger generations have no such hang ups as their lived experience is quite different.

    Football in Scotland has always been divided through politics and religion, it didnt start in 2014. To pretend otherwise is to re-write history.

    As for Rangers (a very British organisation) doing more for the national side than Celtic?

    Jock Stein, Billy McNeill, Jimmy Johnstone, Danny McGrain, Kenny Dalglish, Roy Aitken, Paul McStay, Mo Johnston, Frank McAvennie, Scott Brown, Kieran Tierney and more......

    What I will also say is that the notion that there arent huge numbers of Rangers fans within the Scotland support is also for the birds. They just arent as visible as they used to be as club colours and identification have been rightly discouraged over the years to prevent discussions like this from occurring.

    Thankfully, they never occur when Im away following Scotland as no-one really cares what team you support. We are there to support Scotland and thats all that matters.

  20. 3 hours ago, wellfan said:

     

    As I said above, it comes down to poor game management from JBA. Koutroumbis should’ve been replaced by SOD at halftime, but instead, he waited until it was too late.

    I dont disagree.

    But even if he does that, we still have the same issue when Longelo goes off injured.

    I guess we could put Halliday in there, or bring Balmer on and shift McGinn across.

    None of those options are ideal though.

    Not my intention to bash the manager as I think in general he has been fantastic for us.

    But there are one or two things that havent been quite right.

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