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Excellent post Steelboy. Ont the subs issue I would usually agree with you but BBC had McCall stripping Higdon just before we got the pen so looks like he was intending to change it at 0-0 then events overtook things?

There is no doubt that Jamie is the most talented player that our club has produced since Faddy. He has scored some fantastic goals and been part of some great moments but if we are honest, consistency has always been a real issue. The last 8 weeks, however, have been some of the most consistent and impressive that we have seen from Jamie in his time at Fir Park and I hope that it is a sign that Jamie is ready to move on and develop into the player we all hoped he would become when we first saw him 5 years ago. All the best Jamie, you have been a credit to our club. I look forward to seeing you at Hampden wearing the dark blue with distinction.

Personally dont think we saw enough of Page to say whether he wouldve made it with us or not. However, given our defensive deficiencies this season it would appear that the manager hasnt seen enough in training to convince him that he was the answer which must say something. Wish him all the best in finding a new club though.

The guy is box office. More power to his extremely mad elbow!

Highlight of 2012 without a doubt standing with the "500" in the Olympic Stadium in Athens. We are Motherwell Champions League! Never thought Id ever utter those words. Thanks lads.

Sorry. Just read the 2012 thread. Feel free to merge!

Happy New Year to Dossers everywhere. Hope 2013 is as disappointing as 2012 appears to have been! We are all Stuart McCall!

We really made an impression on them down at their place when they paraded the League Cup and with the Kelly banner. Nice of them to return the favour. Its what football should be like more often.

Where does the "McCall doesnt rate Saunders" come from? Seen it posted a couple of times but Ive never read any direct quotes myself. Was it in the press or was it a more reliable source? Would have thought given the way the centre of defence has been this year Saunders couldnt be any worse?

Had to work yesterday so couldnt get up to the game. Gutted to have missed such a great performance but delighted for a whole host of reasons. Sounded like the crowd got behind the team. The manager proved he IS aware of our deficiencies at home and willing to think out the box with a change of tactics. It appears some of the players getting most criticism put in better perfornances. Most importantly we got 3 points playing attacking attractive football at Fir Park! This is the way watching a team in 2nd place is meant to be. Here's hoping we can carry this feeling onto Saturday which is an important anniversary for us all. "We are all Stuart McCall"

Barry Ferguson was a quality player. Anyone claiming otherwise knows nothing about football or has an other agenda. Just dig out the 1999 Wembley game if you need any proof. Whether he is still any good, would want to sign for us or whether he is the right signing for us are entirely different points.

The way he gets abused by some of our support, September probably cant come quick enough for him. He has undoubtedly been poor all season, but he has been getting stick a lot longer than that.

Given that Henriks contract doesnt run out until August 2014 and we are still in the running for 2nd place and the money that goes with it, there is no way we should be accepting such a derisory amount. That would be very poor business indeed.

.....and their maws.

Touche'

In that case you are in the perfect position to comment on the point I tried to make Frazzie. Is there less abuse away from Fir Park and do the players appear more relaxed and confident in their play as a result?

Exactly this.

Was reading a post in the Ins and outs thread saying how much the players celebrated the win yesterday. Given the content of this thread it is entirely possible that the players enjoy the backing they get playing away from home more, can relax and play their football, hence get more favourable results. Clearly not the only reason for the disparity in performances but worth a thought surely.

What about Gordon "night" Mair!!!!

We are all Stuart McCall......

By hiding, I meant going into his shell and not wanting the ball.

Your entitled to your opinion mate. No fanbase is ever going to see eye to eye on every player that has played for their club. I think Hateley has on the whole been very good for us. Another, like Ojamaa, who never hides and continues to put in a shift even if he is having a stinker. If he is on 3 grand a week which, I would doubt, Im sure we will be able to get a suitable replacement. To get back to the original point, there is a big difference between venting your frustrations when things are not going well and downright bullying and unecessary abuse of players. Unfortunately Hateley, like Higdon gets way too much of the latter which is why I tend to leap to his defence.

Look forward to Fraser Kerr at right back for the rest of the season then. Maybe someone even poorer next season unless Saunders can get back to full fitness. There is no getting away from the fact that Hately's form has been guff for most of the season. However, he may be playing with an injury for the benefit of the team or suffering from some other problem that he doesnt want to go public with. I just think that he deserves to be cut some slack given his service to the club over the 3 previous seasons. It is those high standards that are the cause of most peoples frustrations with him now. I think the manager could take some pressure off however by ensuring others take more responsibility for set peices. I realise its tough watching turgid crap game after game but the opposition have to take some credit for that. I agree though that the manager has to try and find a way for our players to break down teams at home. Until he does we need to be patient and get behind the team. The last thing we need is the players shi****g themselves and scared to take a first touch.

Did nobody hear Stuart McCall on the radio last night. Very open, very honest and sounded gutted and exasperated at being out of the cup again. However, he thereafter turned it around by saying that normally he would accept top six and a cup run as success for a club our size, but now we are out of the cup he was throwing down a challenge to the players to finish top 3. The guy isnt perfect, but he is not stupid and I wouldnt swap him for any other manager in the SPL.

What it will do is chase him out the door first decent offer comes his way. Fans are quick to question players loyalty but where is our loyalty to a player who has been one of our most consistent performers for 3 seasons the minute he hits a slump in form.