Jonesy

Flash in the pan. People have been complaining AP isn't suited as the striker in our new set up because his first touch isn't good enough so there's zero chance or it working with Bair, his first touch goes further than most people can kick. His success was built on using his pace and strength with acres of space to run into while the rest of our team stood on Liam Kelly's toes, it absolutely won't work when we've got our goalie standing 40 yards from goal. He's an absolute unit and some athlete but a football player he is not.

Don't knock it, it was our game plan for the bulk of the last 5 years. Give it another month or so (being generous) and there will already be idiots shouting for it to return.

For a start it's a pre season friendly so I don't really know why anyone cares. Beyond that we're getting used to another new manager who is setting up in a new formation and asking them to actually play football after 2 years of being told that the ball is their enemy, not to go anywhere near it and just let the other team keep it, of course there will be teething problems. Picking up on things like we didn't look comfortable playing out from defence or that the players were too slow to pick there pass (at time it felt like you could see their thoughts processing in real time but they're obviously still not sure of themselves yet) is a critique. Writing off some of the players or labelling it embarrassing is well past that and into lost the heid, pissed your wee panties territory.

We will end up relegated at some point but with Falkirk, Livi, Steven Presley's Dundee and (dare I say it) Stuart Kettlewell's Kilmarnock in the league it won't be this season. If you can at least accept relegation will happen at some point you'd be as well trying to enjoy it and have a bit of fun with it now and then rather than being a constant fucking misery.

Apart from all the examples listed, no one. You're right.

"Defensively worryingly bad" "Miles off it, nowhere near the level" "Verging on embarrassing" "Looked awful" "Worrying signs already at this early stage" "Players X,Y,Z shouldn't be anywhere near the first team" "Chasing shadows" "Early days but uninspiring. Expected better" (Albeit as part of a much more sensible post) "In for a rude awakening when the real stuff starts" All sound pretty pant pissy to me.

I wonder if the Twente fans pissed their pants this much over drawing 2-2 with us last summer, before going on to finish 5th in the Eredivisie? Falkirk lost to Edinburgh City at the weekend and they've probably stayed more sane than most of the folk on here.

Slattery, Stamatelopoulous and Balmer cost more than St Mirren and Killie have spent in recent years combined.

18 years ago!? Numbers aren't your strong point, eh?

Folk say this all the time when talking about McGhee. What would he (or whoever might have been incharge at the time) have had to have done (or said) for people to say anything otherwise?

I'm still bitter about Malpas and McLeish they were both about 20 and 30 years ago.

The most important part of this appointment is getting someone who can be trusted to spend their cut of the Miller millions wisely and not hand it over to a complete tit like McLeish and Davies as we did previously.

It's nowhere near the most important appointment post admin. The Wimmer appointment itself was much more important. The Kettlewell and Alexander appointments also. You could also add Craig Brown and Mark McGhee 1.0 to that list off the top of my head. Baraclough as well, probably. Livi and Falkirk being in the league should give us a fair bit of breathing space to the bottom of the league. Dundee deciding to become a basket case again after a couple of relatively quiet seasons, Killie replacing McInnes with SK and St Mirren potentially losing Robbo should make the season even more comfortable. We'd have to genuinely have one of our worst seasons ever (not one of the kid on ones everyone has claimed we've had for the last 15 years) to finish below 2 of that lot.

If that mentions a recommendation from Ange anywhere I'll pass. He recommended signing Danzaki.

I could be wrong but my memory of that is they were relegated under Gary Locke with a team of youngsters during the transfer embargo, then Neilson came in. It would be a bit of a cheek for him for bringing them through when they'd already had a full season in the top flight under their belt - a bit like the Kettlewell puff pieces giving him credit for developing Cornelius, who made his debut under Robbo and played dozens of games under Alexander and Hammell, or Miller a generational talent who made his debut under Hammell and only a total moron wouldn't have moved into the first team.