Ya Bezzer!

You are right that he shouldn't be fired over one result. But a 25% win ratio over a calendar year means that any manager at any club would be under threat and at most clubs would probably been fired already. Robinson's league record is atrocious and that's not even taking into consideration the entertainment value, style of football and poor quality players he'd leave behind. Out of 62 league matches, Robinson has 20 wins, not great in itself, but 10 of those wins came in this first 22 matches. Since then we have 10 wins in 40 matches and that is very poor.

He won't be fired this week. A heavy defeat by Aberdeen and it becomes a possibility. With the run of games coming up, I honestly can't see him lasting into 2019, but as I've said previously I don't see much point in changing the manager right now as we need to give anyone coming in the chance to bring in new players and fixtures that we have a decent chance of getting a 'bounce' from. Bringing in a new manager now and I don't see how things are going to change much. Get these tough fixtures over, grin and bare it and we'll see where we are at the end of December.

For me 5 of the 6 goals from open play were avoidable by even competent defending. Agree with Hartley. He's slow as treacle and his positioning for the first goal was deplorable yesterday. Clearly not even paying attention to the game when he's about 5 yards behind the rest of the defensive line. And that's one of the most infuriating things about this team. Time and time again we can't even play in lines like a half decent school team. Players just don't have any awareness of what's going on around them. There is no excuse for it and the manager should be on top of that. If players don't know where they are on the field and where their team mates are they shouldn't be playing. It's the most basic element of the game. Perhaps if we ever master that we can move on to controlling a ball and then passing.

As I said previously, now is a tough time to bring in the youngsters. Not only do we have tough fixtures, the team and manager are under pressure and the fans are not happy. We had three quarters of a season last term when relegation was at best unlikely and fans were onside due to the cup runs and he didn't give these guys game time. We started the season playing League 2 teams and they still didn't get any game time. These players should have been brought through last season. Bringing them in now might improve us but you can't really expect more or less totally inexperienced kids to get us out a 3 wins in 13 sized hole. Robinson has completely mismanaged the side.

Watching Sportscene. Wish me luck.

I always give a MotM even though sometimes its hard to come up with one. This time it's almost impossible. Went for Bigi as the best of a bad lot.

Leadership? We needed a 19 year old to come in and run the game for us against two of the worst sides in top league history.

The positive today is that it wasn't a record club defeat. At one point it looked like it might be.

Needs a big performance against Aberdeen to get the taste of that defeat out of my mouth. The fixture list goes thus.... Aberdeen (H) Livingston (A) Celtic (H) Hearts (A) St. Johnstone (A) Celtic (A) If we can't get points out of the next two I don't see us getting any out of the next four.

I was there today and I've no idea if it was a penalty or a deliberate hand ball but it doesn't matter. McHugh is rash time and time again and it was almost inevitable that he was going to get sent off as soon as he got the yellow. The guy is an absolute clown. The manager should have hooked him as soon as the card came out and should do the same if he ever plays and gets booked again. I genuinely hope he never plays again though. We were rotten in the match, gave away a terrible goal with 11 men on the pitch after only a few minutes and hardly strung two balls together all match. The one good move we had resulted in an equalizer despite us being pretty poor. This Rangers team was not a great team. At 11 v 11 we could have come out much better composed, instead we were a shambles. At 2-1 down we should have kept it tight and hit them on the break - we did neither - and gave away another terrible goal, a free header for the shortest player in the box soon after. We got pumped today because we were rotten. We've been rotten for over a year now but today was perhaps the nadir of a sustained period of dreck. Meanwhile Livingston get a clean sheet and a point against Celtic, St. Johnstone break the clean sheet record and Kilmarnock become the first team to win at Tynecastle in donkeys ages. Don't talk to me about budget. Robinson's legacy will be the non league clogger football he leaves behind him when he clears his desk.

As I've been saying for some time it's not budget, it's lack of ability and a defeatist attitude. We've got two players who are comfortable with the ball being played to them and one is a 19 year old rookie. Our manager is happy to do enough to stay up and nothing more. Maybe we can now drop this pish about Robinson not giving the Old Firm respect. Never beat either of them in a league match when both teams have been historically mediocre. Imagine that lot had been up against Larsson or Gascoigne.

Might as well stay and see our record defeat.

Absolutely cunted off a slighly above average team. Not sure why I'm still here. Now 7.

Should never play for the club again. As soon as he was booked you knew he was getting sent off. Seriously get him to fuck.

Our 3-3 draw was the only time Rangers have conceded more than one goal in a league game. On the other hand Rangers have only kept 3 clean sheets and they were against Dundee and St. Mirren - who can't score against anyone. So we might score once today but Rangers will likely outscore us. They aren't a great team, neither are Hearts, but like Hearts they have made their home ground a bit of a fortress. I think it will be tough for us today.

Rangers are 31-6 up this season at Ibrox with no defeats and that's including European matches against clubs that would pump us no problem. I'm going but I'm steeling myself. Rangers usually go 4-1-4-1 at home so I'd be surprised if we don't have 5 in midfield. Might be an idea to simply match Rangers formation rather than go with a more traditional 4-4-2.

For me Carson has been no where near this form from last season so I don't see him generating any more interest than he did during the summer.

To be fair he's already scored four times as many goals as Wes Fletcher.

We'd conceded in every league match up until the last two matches. And the Dundee match was won by 1 goal, ie, if we had conceded in that match we wouldn't have won it. Given that our strikers have a poor goal return and in general we don't have a lot of goals around the side we don't need to be shipping goals to drop into terrible form. Right now we are failing to score in about 50% of our league matches so keeping clean sheets is crucial to picking up points. It's how we stayed safe last season despite being pretty awful to watch. I'd prefer a different kind of football but right now we don't have the personnel to outscore teams.

Just shows you how far down the list of priorities youth development has been under Robinson. Hopefully the past week will open some eyes at Motherwell. Big changes are needed and if Robinson doesn't implement them, two wins against dross are only going to be a postponement to his problems.

The matchwinner - Turnbull.

Better performance and much better brand of football albeit with the caveat that we were playing a team rock bottom of the league. Once again Turnbull has made the difference and only adds more evidence to my theory that we can produce better players than we can bring in. Superb strike for the goal. There are still some glaring problems though- our strikers just aren't good enough and we still lack width, especially on the left hand side. For me these two games were must wins, now it remains to be seen if we can take points off teams outside the bottom two. Hopefully we can build from here and we don't revert to hoofball when we are being pressed harder and have less possession against better quality teams.

After a strong start felt it went a bit flat. Dundee hitting the bar seemed to affect our confidence and we've not been quite the same since. Probably the better team but Dundee looked like they had a decent penalty shout. We've not been convincing defensively.

Dundee have conceded two or more goals in 8 out of 11 matches this season, and more than two goals in 6 out of 11 matches. We will surely score. The concern then is at the other end. Dundee have scored in 2 of their last 7 matches, or 3 in their last 10 and have scored more than once only once this league term. So just put Motherwell on my accumulator....

For me it was between Turnbull and Bigi. Cadden was better tonight but still too many wayward final balls from him, even if attitude wise, he looked up for it. My vote goes to Turnbull.