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10 minutes ago, texanwellfan said:
Can’t say I’m impressed by the new rangers appointment but I don’t really know him. His CV doesn’t seem that great if the new owners are going to throw a bunch of money at them.
Hoping our new manager gives us something to look forward to.I'm similar in that I'd rather it was someone unknown to us. However, I don't think there's any logic in that other than if it's someone I know, I probably gave him dogs abuse as an opposition manager. I don't like Robbie Neilson, but that's because he was the hearts manager, I have no insight into whether he'd be a good manager for us, or if some unknown Austrian is better.
It's the same with scottish players, we get more excited by a random North Macedonian over some dude from Morton. Even if the latter is the better player.
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Carrick would be a great appointment, I heard his name doing the rounds too. We'd be a great landing spot for him to rebuild his brand.
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9 minutes ago, Spiderpig said:
The media must be getting desperate for a clue as to our next manager
Where are Motherwell in manager hunt? And is Neilson a contender? - https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/crmkpwzypnlo
Nielson, Docherty, Brown and Ketsbaia was the best they could come up with 🤦♂️
To be fair, we normally do their job for them by discussing candidates on here.
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We're pulling Germans out of a hat sonthe papers don't have to.
But on top of my John Terry suggestion, the English league jobs are getting filled and Ian Evatt and Des Buckingham are still available.
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The name doing the rounds is Thomas Wörle. Completely pulled out of thin air on P&B, but I want to see I'd the papers puck up on it anyway. Comes from the Ralf Ragnig gegenpress school like wimmer
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It took 3 weeks to get wimmer in place. Not anywhere near the time to panic. I'd argue that there's more chance of getting a Tony Doc if we rush things.
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28 minutes ago, David said:
The only positive in that appointment would be to play the drinking game every time a Scottish journalist or media personality described the move as "box office."
I'm running with it. Terry Butcher took the managers job 12 years after his last England cap (77 in total), and was famous for playing in blue. John Terry is 13 years since his last England cap (78 in total), and wears his blue strip even when he isn't playing. It's written in the stars. I don't think he lives in Stirling though.
Dont get me wrong, he would be utter shite.
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38 minutes ago, santheman said:
Dundee fans not impressed as he has history in applying for jobs in Scotland when his contract is nearing end at Linfield and uses it as leverage for a new and improved contract and transfer budget. Did it with St Johnstone apparently.
Yep, and it looks like they've offered him a new deal this time too 😄
And, for the uninitiated
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/john-terry-celebration/photos
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There's a few english managers that could be good, including Buckingham, but there's also a bunch of managerial vacancies in the EFL that they're all linked with, so we may have to see how that shakes out.
Did Ian Evatt apply last time, or was his name just thrown out by someone on here?
Saw an article with John Terry lamenting about his unsuccessful efforts to secure a manager job, maybe he could do a job here? He's obviously remembered fondly for his cup winning exploits with us in '91.
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Is that the club that the chairman is linked to through his father in law?
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The good thing is that we're unlikely to go with any of the names that have been touted. The record posted a list of dundee candidates, which included someone that a P&B poster threw out there for a laugh, so I'd ignore anything the papers say.
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Despite hammering them in the first game, I could barely watch the second leg. Even after Marvin's precision finish I was pacing around and turning the TV off and on. I think I chilled out after the 6th went in.
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410 games at a 50% win percentage. There's a bunch of championship seasons in there, but also taking hearts to 3rd a couple of times and winning a cup. Other championship managers have been touted on here, so I don't see why that should be a blocker.
Put his exact experience and stats on a foreign manager, and we'd be hailing it as a great appointment. Any experienced manager is going to split opinion, because you don't go 10 years in management without ups and downs.
Like I said, I don't want him because I've never really liked him, maybe that's because I don't like hearts. But the argument that he isn't good enough is silly.
Most of us want an exciting manager from outside of Scotland because it's something new, and there's the chance we find a diamond in the rough. Bringing in someone with considerable experience makes that less likely, so it's boring.
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If another manager was available who had 3 years in the championship with Neilson's record, we'd be all over it, jeez, some people want Imrie.
I don't really like Neilson, mainly because of how he comes across, but he's a good manager.
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Maybe we're working out what to do with him, or he's working notice, or we're giving him the chance to apply or be the #2 for the new guy. Can't imagine there's much for him to do at this point of the close season.
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Having a recruitment team is useful for transitional periods like this. Managers aren't as involved in signings as they used to be. Glad that things are still moving.
Contract end dates didn't just change because the manager left, and we pretty much know who is gone anyway.
Wimmer left on Friday, it's Tuesday now, with a bank holiday in between. Not sure what information of substance on the manager situation the club can offer up at this point. I'm sure we will get a video soon enough. The club did a great job of keeping things close to their chest last time, and I hope they manage the same again.
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2 minutes ago, FirParkCornerExile said:
I've got a strange feeling it will be Billy Davies or Dougie Imrie , don't ask me why.
Because it's easier to be contrarian than optimistic?
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2 minutes ago, DunnyMFC said:
Mr Sawers no gonna be happy with Kettlewell
He's too busy being a nonce to care.
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Like said above, he's a flat track bully, quite happy to be the big fish in a small pond and get everything his way. That's his choice, but I'm not going to have any sympathy for a guy bawling his eyes out because he didn't win his 25th trophy.
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Nothing has happened yet to suggest the club are panicking in any way. Maybe they are running around with their hair on fire, but other than a press release 2 days ago not a single thing has come from the club, officially or otherwise. I'll be ignoring everything the papers put out over the next few weeks, and the bookies odds as well, as we all know it will be made up shite. The lack of names being posted on here so far is going to have them scrambling.
On a similar note, when did we last go down the "safe pair of hands route?" When did we last hire a "usual suspect"? For better or worse, we've tended to do the opposite.
Similarly, how often do clubs really do this?
I'm not even sure who would fall into this group, Mcinnes seems like the closest to this currently, maybe Goodwin? But it seems that more often than not, premier league clubs are going the external or untried route, rather than recycling the same guys.
There must be some genuinely decent young/modern Scottish managers around, and I'd love it if we unearthed someone like that, but the reality is that they'd be enough of a known quantity that our fans would write them off from day 1.
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Nice to hear some names to look out for in the coming season. The u21 highlights used to be great for that.
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6 hours ago, El Grew said:
Sorry Kmcalpin but I have to disagree with you on that point. Our first team squad of 32 players is way too big and needs to be culled. We’ve got 10 players on loan so once they return to their parent clubs the squad size reduces to 22. Then I would offer up the following 9 players as dead wood that needs to be gotten rid of: O’Donnell, Seddon, Blaney, Zadrovski, Halliday, Callachan, Paton, Nicholson and Robinson so that reduces the squad size down to 13 which is obviously too small. I believe our first team squad size should be 18 and that we add quality and not quantity to get there.
Seddon, blaney, callachan, paton, and davor are out of contract, so not much work to do there, and based on their lack of minutes in the last few months, Seddon is the only one we look remotely like wanting to keep around..
SOD and halliday just signed contracts, so that's not happening regardless of how shite some folk think they are. We'd have to pay them off as well as pay their replacements.
Robinson and Nicholson both have a year on their contracts and are injured (on our watch). No one in their right minds would take a payoff any less than what they're owed when they are not fit enough to secure another gig any time soon, as well as losing the rehab facilities they currently have. This isn't the same as giving an OOC injured guy a short deal to do right by them, they're our players.
I know the inclination is to always go for shiny new players, bit I can absolutely guarantee that a proportion of the group we sign this year will be next year's "dead wood".
We need a squad, and just like any other football squad, there is a drop from the nailed on starters to the squad players. In an ideal season everyone stays fit and you don't have to use the second (or third) string as much.
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1 hour ago, Kmcalpin said:
David Healy has been mentioned for a number of Scottish vacancies and still is, but he continually distances himself from them.
As others have said I suspect that our next manager will be someone left field or unexpected and not picked from a bookies' list.
Healy is hard to judge, when Linfield are far and away the biggest club in that league. He's also coming up on 10 years there, so there's a decent chance that his next job might be a tricky one to adjust to.
I imagine the same rumored guys from last time that are still unemployed will be brought up again, like Evatt, VdG, Ketsbaia, and the gobshite club of fotheringham, courts, and the like.
At least last time we had the rumored german link which led to the papers phoning some random German i posted on P&B.
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1 hour ago, wellsince75 said:
bookies early list has led me to drinking early in the afternoon , not much there to inspire.
Last time I thought Van Der Gaag was close to the job. As an assistant at AJAX and Man Utd I'd be happier for someone like him to join.
https://news.bet365.com/en-gb/article/football-next-motherwell-manager-potential-contenders/2025052315032484636- Robbie Neilson . Managed 400 games with 50% win record. Experience in SPL
- Scott Brown. 130 games 40% win record. No experience managing SPL.
- Des Buckingham. 176 games 40$ win record. Maining in Nz & Oxford.
- Steven Naismith. 65 games win record 43%.
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Tony Docherty. 90 games. 30% win record.
Just like every other time, the bookies list is made up nonsense, and fluctuates based on the betting patterns of a very small group of people who actually care about motherwell enough to bet on their next manager. We could probably get a random candidate at the top of that list just by sticking his name in here.
I forgot robbie Neilson existed, hopefully he considers himself too big for this job.
2025/26 Ins & Outs Discussion
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I don't know if he was any good in his loan at queens Park last year, but he wasn't that great for us, then got injured. Right back/rwb probably isn't where we need to be looking anyway.