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The problem for me is that the board are now going to 'discuss' this ridiculous proposal after already deciding that that want to go through with it. Not much of a discussion there. Also, surely a discussion involving other proposals such as a 16 team league would be more beneficial as the pros and cons of all the possibilities could be debated by both the SPL clubs and the respective fans groups. Instead,everything has been written off other than this nonsense 8-8-8 structure, that 99% of fans are against, simply because it guarantees 4 'old firm' games when The Rangers make it to the top league again. I'm pretty scunnered with the whole scenario and I'm sure many people feel the same, so essentially the proposed cure for the current apathy in Scottish football is actually creating more.

Why is it only the east stand the stick comes from? Sure it's the same all round the stadium... no more than at any other average team right enough!

I personally don't think Randolph getting a Premiership club is so far fetched... he is better than some of the dross currently plying their trade there. That aside, there is less than no chance that he will end up at Aberdeen.

Yep anytime I've seen him he's looked gantin! Also, has Dylan McGowan even been playing for Hearts??? His brother is decent but I'm not sure I've ever seen him play.

Selling Hutchy for a decent fee is all well and good but we would really need to replace him unless Saunders is fit and ready to come back in. A central defence pairing of any 2 from Cummins, Ramsden and Kerr gives me the fear!

Are you by any chance the guy that sat a few rows behind me in the East Stand on Saturday and did nothing but berate Murphy? Telling him he can f**k off and the like... Murphy should leave for his own sake and get a fresh start because some of the abuse he gets is ridiculous. The guy is a right footed striker who constantly gets played as a left mid and still knocks in a good few goals for us despite being totally wasted out there.

What we'll get for him now goes up tenfold... what's 10 x 0 again?

Possibly being a bit pedantic but Rhodes is now a Blackburn Rovers player.

I also fancy going to this game and would urge every other supporter to make the effort too... as has been said already, the players will need our support and the game is definitely there to be won. Maybe best to stay at home if you're easily offended right enough...

If Green was to go ahead with this £1 ticket price or whatever surely we could demand our full entitlement for a cup match (10%?) and get 5,000 fans there?! Or am I way off? Not entirely sure of the ticketing rules... If the fans wanted to they could also make a donation to the club as they are purchasing their £1 ticket at Fir Park.

I don't want to go into too much detail about last night as I'll just end up raging again but can we forget this line of "Levante finished 6th in La Liga"?! The discussion is about one leg of a european tie where we attempted some horrible tactics and the manager never had the intelligence / ability to realise it wasn't working and change it. We failed to turn up last night and the first goal would have been embarrassing for a pub team to lose never mind a professional team playing in the europa league! I also have to give special mention to Tom Hateley... why does he hit every single set-piece we get??? Even when it's set up for a left footed player he trots over and delivers his usual disappointing ball out of the park. Then there's the matter of him still pretending to be a centre mid and McCall actually encouraging this by moving him in there at the end, absolutely honkin!

Maybe I just seen the OAP section then... either that or the guys you seen were actually the team

Was on my lunch and seen some of the Levante fans kicking about outside the Radisson and across the road in the Weatherspoons. From what I seen it appears to be their older generation of fans that have bothered to travel...

Got the flights booked on Friday for this. Out Edinburgh to Alicante with Ryanair early on Wednesday morning, train to Valencia, 2 nights there, train to Barcelona on the Friday, day/night in Barcelona and back to Prestwick on Saturday afternoon with Ryanair. £145 for the flights and looks like it'll be another £45 for the trains. Booked the Eurostars Gran Valencia too, about £45 each for the 2 nights so I'm looking at £235 plus my hotel for the night in Barcelona, pretty happy with that!

Cant draw teams from the same association at this stage edit - maybe we'll finally get that trip to Brugge that's been talked about!

By the draw there'll be 62 teams involved... pretty sure they split the teams into groups of 4/5 seeds and 4/5 non-seeds on the morning of the draw

Aye very good, I didnae want to go anyway...

I don't know what sort of odds the bookies are giving us to progress over the 2 legs but i'd put us about 20/1 so maybe 'miracle' is too strong but I think it's extremely unlikely. Don't get me wrong, I really hope it happens and if we even get a win at Fir Park I'll no doubt be nursing a serious hangover at work on Wednesday but I just can't see it.

Surely rather than setting up a fixed direct debit people can just use the donate link on the website every month to give what they can? Or am I missing something here?

Aye if we're the only non-seeds to go through (by some miracle) then it'll be pretty much the same options as before... Braga, Spartak, Fenerbahce, Kiev and Copenhagen. This is the only downside of getting through but I could live with it in the knowledge that we're guaranteed group stages of one competition! That being said Feyenoord and Club Brugge must be in with a good shout of going through so could be an interesting bunch of teams.

That's true but just think of the shift Gordon would put in trying to secure the #1 jersey! He'd be unreal!

Aye Gordon would be a decent back-up for Randolph, although Hollis would maybe be a bit annoyed...

Couldn't believe it when he went to centre half! Surely Bily Reid was just having a laugh at that point?! He could only have been about 14 and that experience will have set him back big time! One of the most bizarre things I've ever seen at the football.

First friendly I've seen this pre-season and my take on it so far is: Hetherington looks decent. Cummins doesnt look ready to step up yet. Angol should be trained as a left winger rather than a left back. Daley is still never a fitba player. All in a fairly routine performance so far without too much bothering us but a couple of cracking saves from Randolph.

I think the point is you started by saying Celtic and Rangers are maybe top end League 1 standard and the rest are League 2 standard then tried to justify that absolute nonsense by looking at European results. Unfortunately this is what happens due to a serious lack of any ins and / or outs but thankfully it appears that you are the only person on the planet who believes these ramblings.