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I never made it to the game, due to one of the kids playing football on Saturday afternoon, and I never seen the match either despite taking the prior steps to record BBC Albas coverage...I wasn't up for watching the full 90mins after I heard we were down 4-1 and to 8 men. However, there was a neutral observer there that I know, who was watching us and St Johnstone on behalf of another Premier League team, who suggested that 'Motherwell were by far the dominant side, until St Johnstone scored a goal from nowhere' and we 'then imploded'...he said, we looked big, strong, well-drilled and confident. He made mention of the refeering decisions, but didn't really expand on it at the time. Having now seen the 3 red cards (still not seen the goals), I reckon the only one we have any chance of over-turning is the last one, which was a clear dive. McHugh has made it easy for the referee to send him off, while Carson has had an absolute brain-fart. To the naked eye, he looks a mile outside the box, when its slowed down it isnt as bad as that though definitely outside, but at full speed it looks like he is way out...the easy thing for him to do there is clear his lines, but he has misjudged either the speed of the ball, or the player closing him down and left himself out on a limb. As for, is it a red or a yellow? For me, its as clear a 'denial of a goalscoring opportunity' as you'll ever see, hes grabbed hold of a ball that a striker is attempting to get on the end of, to kick into an empty net.

There is absolutely no point in giving your opinion on players you have never seen...unfortunately (or fortunately I suppose), I'm a child of the 80s and never went near Fir Park until 1986ish, so there is no point in me giving my opinion on Wille Pettigrew, let alone Willie MacFadyen, as I have nothing to go on other than heresay, or the odd clip. Football has changed dramatically over the past 100 years, and its too easy to say that players of yesteryear, were better than the current lot purely on what their goalscoring record is etc...football, is much more tactical now, less clear cut chances, players dont hang about for 10 years like they did in the past, players nowadays are without exception, full-time employees of the Club and from that I'd assume that they are fitter. The only fair way to give a reply to the request, is by basing your answers on the players that you've seen in the flesh...we all know, who the football clubs legends are from days gone past, and this is nothing more than a bit of fun and that Tommy Coyne will get more votes than Wilson Humphries is just one of those things really. Now, a top100 of utter dross, would be much easier to be fair...

Campbell, McLean, McMillan and Cadden have all been used to some extent so far this season, while others such as Livingstone, Turnbull and Hastie were involved at the tail end of last season...how many home-grown youngsters is Scott Leitch et al wanting in the 1st team squad at any particular time? Seems to me that those within the youth set-up that are unhappy, need to bide their time a wee bit before complaining...or they run the risk of behaving like the knicker-wetters within our support.

Shows how much interest I take in English fitba...apologies, but enhances my point. For talking sake, if we were looking at signing Kevin Van Veen (who I've never heard of to be fair) from Scunthorpe on a free signing we'd all be up for that I'd imagine...he scored a similar amount of goals to Lee Erwin last season.

Yip, its completely bizarre behaviour at times

When we generally take our strikers from the Conference, I reckon I'd be delighted at someone with a semi-decent ratio at League2 level coming in to be honest. As for hitting double-figures up here, I'm not convinced he will either, but I dont think anyone has every claimed that he was a lethal goalscorer

I'd imagine that if we were talking about a striker who scored 8 goals in English League 2, last season at a stinking team, that had also been on loan from Leeds United, we'd probably all be fairly happy if we were taking him on. But because, we know him and he wasnt prolific in his last spell with us, despite being a young lad flung into the whole negativity of that season we are happy to write him off as 'shite' or a 'one-trick pony'. He'll never be prolific but he is a good football player. He'll do a job for Killie, without a shadow of a doubt

They are beyond clueless on that page...its a hive of idiocy that makes this place look much, much better than it is

Add to that list Lee Erwin - Kilmarnock

He was at the Bellshill v Rossvale match last night, maybe hes signing for the mighty Athletic... ...in fairness, I'd take him back in a heartbeat, a far better player than he was given credit for on here in my opinion. Although, I'd prefer he was a replacement for Blyth rather than Moult.

I don't think we've ever had a centre-back that hasnt made mistakes. I think part of the problem with McManus and how he is viewed by a portion of the support is where he has been in his career prior to coming to us. He played for Celtic, winning leagues and playing in Europe regularly, captained Scotland, played at a decent level down south...but for me, that type of exposure was probably always beyond him...he was playing above his level I reckon for most of his career, but for us he is more than adequate I'd have thought.

I wonder how long that 'option' sits about waiting on Motherwell, who are in turn waiting on any Club meeting our valuation? The last thing we want is for Moult to leave in the last day or two of the window a la Johnson and be left either high and dry, or for us to panic buy someone else. The only way I could see an 'option' just hanging about waiting, is if its a loan deal.

Haha...fuck sake. McDonalds time with Motherwell came to a natural conclusion this year as far as I'm concerned, clearly his performances were on the wain, and he obviously didnt see eye-to-eye with the gaffer. Great player for us in 2 spells, decent goalscoring record, and I hate to think where we'd have ended up if he wasnt in our squad for the past 3 seasons. Yes, he clearly has his down sides, the very public moaning on the pitch and fannying about each season over contract renewals, as well as the rumours of him being an unsettling influence in the dressing room, and I'm not at all upset that hes gone BUT, I'll not be booing him if/when he returns to face us at Fir Park. As for McManus, hes harshly treated by the Motherwell fans in my book...if he is injury-free and can get his fitness up, I reckon he has another year in him. McGhee is a different kettle of fish entirely

Frear and Cadden got the shitty end of the stick towards the tail end of last season, playing the wing-back role. In my opinion, Cadden is much more suited to that role than Frear, who for me is an out-and-out winger...luckily for Cadden though, Tait seems to love playing that role so he takes over the right hand side if we are certain to play a back3. On the other side (and anyone who witnessed Dunne playing wing-back at Gateshead will surely testify), we have no one in the squad capable of playing that position adequately. I have absolutely nothing against playing a back3 if the personnel is suited to it by the way. Heneghan is another one how I worry about playing as part of a back 3, while I dont have the same fears when he has a full-back alongside him.

Even if the boy defies the odds and becomes a success, I'd still say that we never lost out. We had next to no interest in playing him, whether that was because he wasn't good enough, couldn't fit our system or because he is (apparently) a bawbag. If he ends up a success at Killie, it doesnt necessarily equate that we mis-treated or mis-judged him in anyway

The only loser in the Dom Thomas affair this pre-season is Steven Lawless...no one cares about him now that Dom has taken his 'the one that got away' mantle.

Fucking shite...hate Sunday games, if I can even make it along that is with the weans playing Sunday fitba'

Crewe ....silly season right enough

No we didn't...Cadden completely owned him in the second half, after he had made an absolute arse out of Ferguson

I think we can put the 'Moult to Aberdeen' chat to bed...an even more ludicrous offer than the one the Hearts tinks put in for Cadden. Aberdeen will not be able to afford Moult, its as simple as that.

I think thats an absolute non-starter as well...from what I've heard his Mrs wants back down the road, not up the road to the back of beyond. His stock is high just now, and if he's going to leave us he'll be looking to maximise his wages, he wont do that going to Aberdeen. Also, heard a rumour last week that his injury is worse than they thought and he might need another operation.

I'm going to be in your ear praising the big fella' all season

I thought Dunne played reasonably well at Stirling

Aye, pretty much this. I don't think its beyond the wit of man, to organise the season in such a way that we can give ourselves as much opportunity as possible to make less of an arse of ourselves in European competition.

He certainly played centre-mid against Stirling on Saturday and was the best player for the 1st 45mins in my opinion