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Unpopular opinion I’d imagine but we need more from Mika. Unfortunately Gogic has had him in his pocket so far. Let’s hope the 2nd half is different.

Pretty even first half with both teams huffing and puffing in horrible conditions. Hate myself, but have spent the whole first half just waiting on our defensive mistake.

You start your post with "complete pish" and then go on to compare a multi Ballon d'Or winning striker playing in a very strong Portugal team, with a goalkeeper playing for a very poor Motherwell side in a crisis! This place gets crazier by the day.... The big difference with goalkeepers compared with outfield players is that you can't just keep changing them. What if Oxborourgh comes in and makes a couple of errors in his first game, do you go back to Kelly? Or do we see who the third keeper is and try them like you would with an outfield player? I know that at some point even a goalkeeper will need dropped, however I just don't think we're at that point yet, especially when next up we have a very inexperienced, untested rookie.

Agree with David, Star Sail, and Denny, no doubt Kelly’s going through a very rough patch, and if he was an outfielder player he would have been “rested” by now, however dropping him at this stage for a goalie very few of us have seen much of (and the manager has overlooked for months) would be a huge gamble. Kelly is an experienced player at this stage in his career and given time and support he’ll come good.

Gent, no contest in my opinion, the boy had a cracking game.

With Butcher, McGinn, Casey, Miller and Paton all out, I suspect we’ll see a 5-3-2 again: Kelly SOD Mugabi Blaney Spencer Spittal Davor Slattery Gent Biereth Obika If he starts 3 forwards with Spittal and Slattery in midfield then I think he’s trying to get the sack!

I think you’re letting very recent performances cloud your judgement slightly here. In my opinion Kelly, Butcher, McGinn and Spittal have all proved over a much longer period than the last couple of months that they are more than good enough in this league. Suppose there is a question mark over Mcginn and Butcher age wise but still. Id be happy to keep those 4 and Casey. The 2 loan boys in Beireth and Spencer are deffo good enough but not likely to stay. Miller will come back in after injury, those apart I’d be happy to see the rest go.

As if we weren’t already under enough pressure to get a result on Saturday, that late St Johnstone goal just cranks it up a little more 😞

Agree the recruitment has been poor and that Miller has been a big miss (bigger than I expected or than he should be at 17), but looking specifically at last night he could easily have started Davor and/or Butcher in there.

Ive defended Kettlewell on here and being honest I thought he would turn it around, however last nights team selection after what we watched on Saturday was crazy, if anything we should have been looking at how we get more bodies in the middle of the park, not less! To start with only Spittal & Slattery as proper midfield players playing away from home was mad! However to suggest he’s lost the dressing is nonsense (last night apart) the one thing we have shown in recent weeks is a great spirit to get back into games! St Johnstone away, County at home and Celtic away, all in recent weeks. i think he’ll get Saturday, but with confidence shot to pieces, injuries piling, and a manager that seems to have lost the ability to set us up hard to beat I’m not confident to say the least.

I assume we’re now 3-5-2 with O’Donnell right side of the 3 at the back. Much more like what we should have started with.

Hope I’m wrong but a team with only 2 genuine midfield players away from home doesn’t normally end well.

Not sure we can say whether a draw tonight is a good result or not without considering Saturday. Despite the situation we’re in I still think a point tonight is a good result, however only if we do what is expect of us (bookies will have us as favourites) and win on Saturday. 4 points out of these 2 games would see us going to Paisley unbeaten in 4. I’d take that!

Have to be honest I’m very surprised at so many votes for Bevis. Maybe I need to see the goals again on TV, but thought he played his part in some very poor defending for the goals we conceded!

At least we got a point, that’s the positives out the way! In fairness I thought SK picked the right team, however it was apparent half way through the first half that Dundee were being afforded far too much space (number 10 in particular) Didnt make it to Celtic park last week but Butcher in Midfield was horrible today, he sat too deep, didn’t pick up runners and was generally too slow. That position is a big problem with young Miller out. We deffo have more problems than solutions after today! Fair play to Wilkinson for keeping his composure and winning us a point. Particularly given he’d been terrible up until then!

Interesting to say the least that we appear to have changed nothing at half time.

Have been firmly in the Kettlewell in camp, but that first half was tactically horrific. So so obvious even at 1-0 that it was just a matter of time before we lost goals. Giving up far too much possession at home against Dundee. Worrying times.

A bit of Biereth magic apart, they look a league above us in terms of their passing and creativity.

Wish I was playing 10 for Dundee today, freedom of fir park every time they come forward.

Butcher I suspect!

Nope, Kettlewell deffo said in his interview that Slattery is suspended for tomorrow.

Suspect the team picks itself tomorrow with Slattery out. Kelly Casey Mugabi Blaney SOD Paton Butcher Spittal Spencer Biereth Obika Suppose the only concern would be is if Obika is fit enough to start.

No doubt the bar was low yesterday, has to be Spittal for me, did well in an unusual position in the 1st half, ran himself into the ground trying to create in the 2nd half, and then took a very good penalty for our goal.

Yeh, agree, the team selection was horrible and completely ruined the first half for us. No surprise that we improved after the break with Spittal further forward and Spencer at full back. Kettlewell has to get back to doing the obvious/sensible things. For the first 6/7 months of his tenure I thought he was great, finally we had a manager that didn’t try to over think and played players in position and in a system that worked for them. We have to get back to that. The Dundee game at FP is now huge, I’m assuming (even if we play well) we’ll lose at Parkhead, that’ll be 2 points from 30, lose to Dundee and the pressure on the club/manager for change maybe too much to resist. 3-5-2 Kelly, Casey, Butcher, Blaney Spencer, Slattery, Paton, Spittal, Gent (might not be great but gives us balance) Obika, Bierth I think we’ve all now seen enough of Bair and Wilkinson for the time being, and O’Donnell looks finished at this level I’m afraid. Could make a case for Mugabi at CH and Butcher in the holding midfielder role instead of Paton, but I fear the time playing at the back and his recent injury would render him too slow. Oh, and I think Sibbicks yellow card was for time wasting, not even sure the ref noticed the stolen yards!

3 forwards and no left back. Hmmm…. Spittal left wing back? Blaney left back in a back 4? Who knows but I can’t say I’m a fan.