steelboy Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 5 minutes ago, dennyc said: Kelly starting his leaving campaign methinks. He might have had a point regarding the fans reaction if Thursday had been a one off. But it was the culmination of months of frustration. And he knows that. As for him being exempt from criticism, they win as a group and they fail as a group. No-one is exempt from criticism, from Board, to coaching staff, to players. Personally he has been at fault for goals as well, although I do not really buy into Thursday being one of those occasions. The free kick on Thursday was Dan Twardzik level stuff. The ball was in the air for an age. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkyred Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 37 minutes ago, Suprawell said: Are you for real? He could have kept it to himself, however he is in the paper as Alexander's mouthpiece basically saying the fans hounded him out. Kelly can STFU and concentrate on the game tomorrow. Dry you eyes Liam. The last person we need to be having a go at is Kelly, hound him out and you can knock off a good few extra points. People are way to sensitive at times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fizoxy Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 Don't see what Kelly said wrong there. Did folk just read the headline? Looking at the stuff on social media for the last year, as well as the aftermath of Thursday, it seems like a valid reason for him to want to leave. Kelly stating what GA told him is fair game. Also funny to see some folk turn on our best player immediately for mentioning toxicity in the fan base, and not seeing an ounce of irony.Alexander has been getting dogs abuse all year, and folk are getting wound up because one person criticized them back. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dennyc Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, steelboy said: The free kick on Thursday was Dan Twardzik level stuff. The ball was in the air for an age. If we had scored that goal we would be going nuts at how good it was. And nobody would be having a go at the goalkeeper. The error was giving the foul away in the first place. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 3 minutes ago, dennyc said: If we had scored that goal we would be going nuts at how good it was. And nobody would be having a go at the goalkeeper. The error was giving the foul away in the first place. And also Blair Spittal just blasting the ball out the park from a decent position to give them possession. But a decent keeper saves that and it's the reason that we won't be fielding any bids for Kelly. He's not tall enough for any team with a budget for buying a goalie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, Yorkyred said: I think the last person anyone should be having a go at is Kelly. I having a go at his comments, certainly not him as a player. If we hadn't signed him on loan that time we would have been in championship. However if that is his view about Alexander leaving it is harsh in the fans (apart from the ones that go over the score) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yorkyred Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 8 minutes ago, fizoxy said: Don't see what Kelly said wrong there. Did folk just read the headline? Looking at the stuff on social media for the last year, as well as the aftermath of Thursday, it seems like a valid reason for him to want to leave. Kelly stating what GA told him is fair game. Also funny to see some folk turn on our best player immediately for mentioning toxicity in the fan base, and not seeing an ounce of irony. Alexander has been getting dogs abuse all year, and folk are getting wound up because one person criticized them back. Exactly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 It's a bit naïve from Kelly to come out and have a go at an already agitated fanbase and label them toxic - Whilst citing that everyone needs to pull together.Wouldn't hear it from a Campbell or a Lasley....Maybe its a pointer what has being going wrong though - No personal responsibility being taken from the players/management.They're just unlucky and the fans don't know what they're talking about.Sent from my SM-G973F using Tapatalk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grizzlyg Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 I also don't think it's Kelly looking for a move, he is just angry at a manager he likes leaving. If (and it's a big if) that those were his choice of words then it isn't clever. There are fans out there that are total clowns, some of the shouts and abuse are shocking. However I can only speak for myself, apart from the bad jokes I like to think I am constructive in any criticism of a player or manager. Kelly is best keeper we have had since Randolph and should be next Scotland no.1. However, don't tar all fans with the same brush as the ones that are nutters...COYW 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 Kelly does have a point about the fans though. I was thinking the other night as the team came out it was great backing but we would turn on them in a second, it only took five minutes. Players were getting pelters every time they came near the stand and it definitely impacted their confidence. During the second half it seemed like they were just playing out the clock, there was zero belief which is primarily down to the players but everyone in the away end had chucked it as much as the players. The fact that it was so warm probably kept the lid on things at the end of the game as everyone seemed as tired and fed up as they were angry. Obviously i've done my share of boo boying myself over the years but you can't give out to the players at the same time as demanding they get a win. It doesn't really work if you rattle the whole team in a big game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mio Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 I think he’s got a point. I thought the atmosphere at fir park lat week was brilliant until about 20mins in and then it was horrible, really unpleasant and at the end it was toxic….. and that was the main stand…. Folk hanging over the stand screaming and booing at players/managers/subs….. booing annoys the fk out me? I don’t understand it and it’s cringy seeing adults do it, unacceptable for a kid to boo never mind an adult. i think Kelly did point out it’s up to players tho to make the fans get behind them and they haven’t done that. I think he sort of said that? i don’t think Kelly said anything wrong and he’s 100% entitled to his opinion. I think some people are a bit sensitive. Players and fans just need to move on and hope our new manager gets something out these players. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alpha1886 Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 1 hour ago, steelboy said: I still think he was going for the pay off from the moment he signed the improved contract. It's not credible to go from being a very competent if negative manager to absolutely useless on the level of Iain Cathro in the space of a few weeks. Team selections, tactics and transfers have all been essentially self sabotage since January. Thinking back to his Open Goal interview every answer no matter the question eventually ended with Alexander talking about money, obviously that's what pro football is all about but it was way beyond anything you would expect. I think he did a bottom line calculation and decided to fuck us. Can you then explain why he bothered to get results against StMirren, Livingston, Ross County and Hearts to get to 5th place? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 2 minutes ago, Alpha1886 said: Can you then explain why he bothered to get results against StMirren, Livingston, Ross County and Hearts to get to 5th place? Which of those games do you think we played well in? Livi we got a draw by the skin of our teeth, St Mirren gifted us 2 goals, Hearts had their eye on the cup final and chucked it after the defender went off injured and the Ross County game was a non event with a soft pen winner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ppower Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 2 hours ago, Suprawell said: Are you for real? He could have kept it to himself, however he is in the paper as Alexander's mouthpiece basically saying the fans hounded him out. Kelly can STFU and concentrate on the game tomorrow. Dry you eyes Liam. Blaming the fans. Really!!! What a dick. Deflecting how crap his and the teams performance was. He wasn't exactly clever at the first goal. His lack of height caused that. It's the 5 wins in 23 games. How about you mention that it's you and the rest of your gutless wonders that contributed to his demise. No hope for us with dicks like that blaming the fans. Fuck right off Kelly. That crap from Kelly tell you all you need to know about our spineless cowardly team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, ppower said: Blaming the fans. Really!!! What a dick. Deflecting how crap his and the teams performance was. He wasn't exactly clever at the first goal. His lack of height caused that. It's the 5 wins in 23 games. How about you mention that it's you and the rest of your gutless wonders that contributed to his demise. No hope for us with dicks like that blaming the fans. Fuck right off Kelly. That crap from Kelly tell you all you need to know about our spineless cowardly team. Don't know where he got the toxic fans stuff from. 2 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 4 minutes ago, bobbybingo said: Don't know where he got the toxic fans stuff from. Were you at the game the other night? Toxic barely sums it up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Wispy Flossy Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 It was toxic on Thursday night. But justifiable in my opinion Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobbybingo Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 17 minutes ago, steelboy said: Were you at the game the other night? Toxic barely sums it up. I realise that. It was sarcasm, given the 'Fuck off Kelly, ya dick' comment. The manager's gone. If the fans fancy chasing one of our few decent players out too, fair enough, but would it not be better to take a breather and see what their reaction on the park is first? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steelboy Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 22 minutes ago, Big Wispy Flossy said: It was toxic on Thursday night. But justifiable in my opinion I agree but hopefully a fresh start without Alexander means the tension drops for the upcoming games. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steeldrew Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 Hearing the abuse shouted at Alexander when he was giving his post-match interview was really embarrassing. I thought he sounded a bit shaken. I don't care what the industry is, no one should have to go to their job and get shouted and sworn at, no matter what you think of them. He's human and deserves a basic level of respect and anyone who thinks it's okay to address someone else in that manner in any circumstances should take a long hard look at themselves. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MJC Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 11 minutes ago, steelboy said: I agree but hopefully a fresh start without Alexander means the tension drops for the upcoming games. It will I reckon. Alexander needed to go, I think that overwhelming majority of the support realised that and letting him stay in the post would only have exacerbated bad feelings from the fans. 24 hours ago I was dreading the start of the league season but as soon as the news that Alexander had gone came out I immediately felt a lot better about it. Of course that could change quickly should we make the wrong appointment, especially if Robinson is brought back, but at the moment we have an opportunity to move forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smiddy Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 47 minutes ago, steelboy said: Were you at the game the other night? Toxic barely sums it up. toxic probably anger feckin deffo i for one spent the thick end of £750 to watch 90 mins of shite from that bunch of feckin spineless cants anyway rant over at least the guiness / cider was great Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AllyMax Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 I see Hammel has us sitting 8th on the opening day of the season. get him tae fuck 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stv Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 No wonder he was getting shouted at, his attitude had just cost the club best part of £350k possibly more and another European trip for the fans . Some spent a large proportion of their income to travel for the game. If you don’t want shouted at ,don’t be a football manager with big wages and ALWAYS a big pay off even if you fail. Get a normal job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
numpty Posted July 30, 2022 Report Share Posted July 30, 2022 20 minutes ago, stv said: Some spent a large proportion of their income to travel for the game. Presumably on the understanding that we might lose, because that's how football works. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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