bobbybingo

Oldham beat Sheffield Wednesday in the F.A. Cup. "Oldham manager Micky Mellon had to watch from the sidelines after being sent off for appearing to move his head towards Callum Slattery" Think he's safe this time.

And Dundee Utd have just one defeat in their last eight. Against us. Spooky.

The comparison you made in order to have a go at Johansson, not in defence of Robinson. Fair enough.

Why comment on the Aberdeen manager's future if your only interest is Motherwell? Unless it was the current Motherwell manager you wanted to comment on, of course.

The discussion was about a former Motherwell manager. If you're not interested, why comment?

I'm gonnae cheer you up a wee bit by pointing out we're literally 2 points ahead of Aberdeen. I wouldn't put my mortgage on anything in football. Who knows, maybe the guy who replaces Robinson will do a much better job. Or maybe he won't. And yeah, when it comes to how the fans currently feel about their respective clubs and managers, we're absolutely not in the same place as Aberdeen.

Aberdeen fans can say Robinson's due the sack, and that's exactly what they're saying. Anyone watching their game today would be shocked if he's still in charge for their next match. We're not in the same place

No, you brought up Alfred Johansson in the 'Former Motherwell....' thread. Wishful thinking.

David Turnbull getting 20 mins again for Cardiff and Max Johnston in and out of a struggling Derby side. Maybe we do overrate their chances of reaching the top level.

Elliot Watt can top that : L L L L L L L L Second bottom in the league table, unsurprisingly. A January exit? Lennon Miller not included in the latest Scotland squad.

Honest question: in what way have folk on here allowed their dislike of Rangers to override their support of Motherwell?

Maybe he doesn't show any more in training than he does on the pitch. Managers can be stubborn buggers, but given the run we're on, you'd imagine he isn't digging his heels in just for the sake of it. Jens persevered with Maswanhise too, presumably because he'd shown he could deliver, while others hadn't.

McGinn, Priestman & Hendry possibly available for the bench tomorrow.

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Hynd, Wallace and Watson being notable exceptions.

Players being brave is the only way we'll get back to anything approaching last season's style/success, but that's clearly not the natural instinct when you're on a run of results like this, for players or fans. Plenty of 'just hoof it' and 'stop fucking about with it' shouts to be heard last night.

I'm no speculating he gets sent off, I'm pointing out it wasn't just because he'd been booked. And yeah, we chucked 2 points away, points we fully deserved. No team can press constantly, so we were always going to be under pressure from long balls or crosses at the end. The players on the park need to take responsibilty for defending properly when that happens.

Because he got booked, was getting involved and they were at the wind up.

No, we didn't, and I take your point. The two Falkirk games, Dundee at Dens and Hibs at Fir Park were pretty poor performances, though, and there was a marked drop off from the middle third of the season, when we were flying in the league. There's a strong whiff of the morning after the night before around Fir Park just now (even the announcer sounds scunnered). Maybe this is the inevitable comedown, maybe Alfred and/or the new guys just don't have it. I'd prefer him to pull us out of this run, rather than having to look elsewhere again, but it surely has to happen in the next 3 games, if it's going to happen at all.

Our stats yesterday were better than the last time Hearts visited in every respect, other than goals, obviously. If you measure the stats from our first 10 league games this season against those from our final 10 under Jens, they almost mirror each other. During both runs, we took 8 points from a possible 30 and lost 18 goals. We've scored 1 less goal this time around. There's clearly more too it than just the numbers, but maybe this was coming, and we chose not to see it.

Any kind of win and any kind of goals, flukey or brilliant, needed in this one. If we kick on from there, fair enough.

Patience with who?

You're hoping for a defeat, then.

Would've been handy if Killie had scored 2 goals for us, as they have for Falkirk today.

Welsh & Just hooked at half-time, with Swansea 4-0 down.