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To be fair or more accurate, need them to score. We hit the target a few times yesterday but made it too easy for the goalie to save.

So what’s our priority? IN goal scorer left back centre back mid fielder (preferably one who can shoot) Out anyone not in JBA plans so we can free up funds to get players JBA wants.

I thought everyone knew that Rangers VAR doesn't review that kind of incident.

What I discovered the last time were were discussing this is that there is training compensation up until a player's 23rd birthday, and solidarity payments after that: "Any time a player is transferred while they are under contract, then a solidarity fee is paid to all clubs that trained the player between his 12th and 23rd birthdays at a proportional rate depending on how long the player was at each club." What I hadn't realised is that they continue throughout the players' career. "Solidarity payments do not stop at the player’s 23rd birthday (like the training compensation payments do) but continue through the course of the player’s professional career each time he is transferred while under contract." So as long a fee is paid while they are under contract, even if they are 40 years old, we still receive our cut. Apparently 5% of the transfer fee is used for the distributions.

As I understand it they should be watching everything. So then decided it wasn’t worthy of review. Could anyone confirm if that’s how it works? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

It’s hard on us coming away from that with no points. Rangers ended up getting a lot of chances towards the end as we flung everything forward. To go to Ibrox and have 55% posession is something I don’t think a Motherwell team has done in a long long time. Keep in mind we also played without our top scorer amd I think Cook coukd also have made a difference. We made enough good chances to where we could have scored at least one goal but as we all know, that is our weakness at the moment. We just have to be hopeful that we can fix that in January but understandable if we have to wait till next season. While it’s a disappointing result, I’m not disappointed in our performance and I think it’s a fair statement to say that Rangers are no better a team than us, so with half the season still to go we still have a lot to play for.

I’d love to see us get a big commanding CB who also causes opposition defenders a problem at set pieces - one can but dream

Does anyone know for sure if VAR team reviewed the incident or not. Watching the game on MFCTV I got the impression that they never even reviewed it but that’s just my impression. I was screaming PK when it happened.

Im pretty sure we are not getting a proven striker but perhaps something along the lines of Beireth, who was talented but was not considered first team material. Or someone who was scoring but now not commanding a first team place. I don’t care if it’s a transfer or a loan, as long as they can come here and score for us.

Re payments it appears what I was thinking about is a solidarity payment which is distributed as This 5% is then distributed proportionally among all clubs that trained the player between the ages of 12 and 23 There are calls to increase this to 8% aside from that I also came across this from the union of European clubs - whoever they are - which proposes a player development reward which won’t generate much for us at the moment but is a good idea This policy calls for UEFA to allocate at least 5% of its annual Club Competition revenues to a new financial mechanism that would directly benefit clubs that train and develop the players competing in UEFA Club Competitions, regardless of whether those clubs are participating themselves.

I don't disagree, but I was reading one of those mid-term reports the other day that suggested there were 8 teams in the Premiership that needed to sign a striker in January. So we'll need to be smart to find what we need - especially when you factor in that no team is going to let a productive striker leave them in the middle of the season without a very good reason. I'm not so worried about the "what might have been" as we are still early into the overhaul of our style of play. We have far exceeded my expectations of any rebuild I can remember.

No. Turnbull was doing fine at Celtic until he was injured. By the time he was fully fit again, the new manager had built a different style of team without him. Cardiff was probably a bad move, though. Miller is highly rated, but that doesn't mean a 19 year old is ready to be a starter in a team in a new country. Arsene Wenger said it took about 6 months for a new player to adapt to a new team in the same league. Longer if they moved to a different country. You can a take a look at teams like Liverpool this season to see how some of their, undoubtedly talented, new signings have struggled. I understand the reasoning, but Miller joining Udinese without a proper pre-season in Motherwell or Italy might have been a rare misstep. While you can never guarantee that a youngster will flourish in later years, Miller looked about as close to guaranteed as you can find. Max Johnston was rated too, and he won a cup and two league titles after he left. So picking the right team and right country also plays a big part.

That Celtic defence is utter dugmeat. We are going to get plenty of chances to score. Just need our strikers to actually hit the target and we will be golden. Going for 4-1 to us

Miller struggling at Udinese, and Turnbull now at Cardiff...we hyped these lads up to some tune, both the Club itself and the support. Were we collectively deluded on how good they actually were?

I’ll need to check but I thought a % of every transfer up to a certain age was split between the clubs that had developed the player.

We don't have a good record of signing strikers with Hendry as surname. At least Callum didnt cost £200k like the money McLeish gave to Spurs in the 90's for John, jeez!!

No recruitment department is ever going to get every transfer right. A realistic aim is to get maybe 60-75% right? Overall, our recruitment team has done well this season (Fadinger, Watt, Just, Welsh etc) and credit to them for that. Its just that I don't think Hendry fits our style of football. I wouldn't criticise them over Stama as he was signed for a previous style that we no longer play.

A big criticism i have of Hendry is he looks laboured at times and there were example yesterday when breaking forward there were about 3 or 4 of our guys ahead of him. 2nd half chance was unlucky but he just looks devoid of confidence. Stama isn't a lone striker and maybe trying them as a partnership could be option but that disrupts our formation. I am sure JBA and team fully aware and hopefully can find a gem in January or maybe a good loan deal

Agreed. Many now accept that we aren't converting good possession based football into actual goals. Our priority needs to be the strikers. I can envisage 2 or 3 players leaving, maybe 4 if Welsh moves back to Celtic. 2 or 3 incoming including a striker, central defender and left back cover. A lot will depend on which players leave. I don't think yesterday's game will influence that, albeit that we've failed to score in 4 of our last 6 games.

Again that's harsh re recruitment, mind guys like fadinger and watt were already here before jba..they're not bad players...I don't hear much talk about nick daws any more since the form has taken an upturn. The striker position is the hardest one to fill, I trust jba and backroom guys to get it right.

Most goals are preventable, I think the priority has to be a striker for this team, if that means neglecting other areas , fair dues Longelo isn't best defensively but usually strong going forward, it's maybe something we need to live with We deserve something from this season, even if it's a European spot or a cup win, it would be galling to have this great fitba not achieve anything.

No, I don't think so; just being objective. Others have singled out Longelo for criticism. I don't think it was just down to him. JBA will certainly have picked up on this. If we want to improve we have to analyse our weaknesses. Yes, we played pretty well, with the exception of our finishing but that doesn't mean to say we should absolve the team of all criticism. Can we honestly sit back and say that there was nothing we could have done to prevent the goal? Was it a wonder strike that no defence would have prevented?

Injury time at Ibrox, Rangers hanging on for a point and you reckon VAR got involved, to possibly award the opposition a penalty..... its GrizzlyG's job to crack the jokes

I might be wrong but I doubt it. I'm under the impression that a development fee is only payable if no fee is agreed.

VAR must have been involved, even if it was just to immediately say check complete.