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  2. I think it is decent, might be tempted. If fans like it then buy it and if they don't no need to I personally wasn't a fan of 25-26 away kit and havent purchased even when reduced, though plenty I know like it On the flipside of the coin I liked the 22-23 Home kit and others didn't
  3. Spit_It_Out

    New Kit

    What i find utterly bizarre is Glen's Vodka is a league sponsor partner you see it all over the place at games its hard to miss but clubs are not to allowed to have an alcohol sponsor its a bit ridiculous. As for new kit i like it and I couldn't care who the sponsor is tbh as long as they pay its good for me in a world where its probably getting harder and harder to attract any type of sponsor its probably very very slim pickings.
  4. Kmcalpin

    New Kit

    Within reason, it doesn't matter to me who our sponsors are. If we are going to apply moral criteria, where do we draw the line? What is acceptable to one fan might be completely unacceptable to another. If we are going to start applying moral criteria when seeking sponsors, we might be fishing in a very small pond. As for Lucky Tiger, I know nothing about them whatsoever.
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  6. Mccus28

    New Kit

    I personally dont like the new kit but I don't buy them so im pretty sure Motherwell don't care 🤣
  7. Spiderpig

    New Kit

    Financial security is a bold statement to make in the context of a football club, they are not allowed to advertise Alcohol or Tobacco etc but gambling is fair game, put a print of a tiger on your shorts for a no doubt 6 figure wedge of cash is a no brainer for the club, free money.
  8. It was said literally at the top of this page.
  9. wellsince75

    New Kit

    very similar to the '87 strip. Just shows how diluted the amber has become over the years. Some similarities to the 09 top. The home strip often is a bit disappointing. aointing.
  10. As someone who doesn’t mind a centralised badge and prefers white shorts, this strip should be my cup of tea. Sadly, there’s too much going on with it. I’m very surprised we didn’t go with a cleaner looking home kit after last year’s muddle. Talking of surprises, how have we ended up with lucky tiger? Even if due diligence has been upped after recent experiences, surely we have the financial security and morals to limit sponsorship to organisations that are aligned to our community and family values?
  11. Are you MJC........Are you MJC........Are you MJC in disguise?? 🤪🤪
  12. At this moment he is a whatever another team is willing to pay player, if and when the club gets a genuine bid then maybe we can discuss it, until then its all hypothetical made up BS.
  13. Nobody said he was a ÂŁ10m player at Motherwell. But he is a ÂŁ4.5m player.
  14. My jokes are in preseason too, so you have to work for it.
  15. David

    New Kit

    It's one of those shirts that will likely look pretty good as part of a whole kit, worn by footballers on a football pitch, but maybe not so much worn by the average Scottish guy with jeans and a pair of trainers. I'll likely wait and see what the training collection looks like this year.
  16. MJC

    New Kit

    Just before my time that one but yes it’s similar too.
  17. It’s got a hoop and white shorts 💝
  18. Gadgey

    New Kit

    For me, it’s far more like the Matchwinner shirt of 1987-89 but with loads of stuff stuck on it
  19. The World Cup always has been a paying over the odds for players that turn up at the event and Just turned up. I would expect a fair few suitors tbh also we hold all the aces anything less than 5 million and its a theft!
  20. I’m not trying to undersell him. I rate him highly and I think he’s been outstanding for us. But I think there are two different arguments being mixed together here. One is: how good is Elijah Just? The other is: what would a buying club realistically pay Motherwell for him? Those are not the same thing in my view. On the Ronaldo comparison, I don’t think it works at all. Ronaldo’s Juventus fee came after he had become one of the greatest players of all time, won multiple Champions Leagues, won Ballon d’Ors, and had enormous commercial value. That wasn’t a “finished article” premium in the normal sense. It was an elite global asset changing hands. In normal football markets, clubs often pay more for younger players because they are buying future upside. That’s why Lennon Miller’s fee makes sense. Udinese were not paying £4.5m because he was a better player than Just today. They were paying for an 18-year-old Scotland international with resale potential. If Miller develops properly, he could become a £15m–£25m player. That upside is priced into the fee. With Just, it’s different. He’s 26. He’s much closer to the finished player. That makes him more reliable, but it also reduces the resale premium in my opinion. His career history matters too. Before Motherwell, he had played in Denmark across the first and second tiers, then in the Austrian second tier. That doesn’t mean he isn’t a very good player, but it is part of the evidence a buying club will use. Clubs won’t ignore seven or eight years of career data because of one excellent season and a few World Cup games. That's just a fact. I'm not saying that the World Cup doesn't raise his profile though, it absolutely does. Three goals at a World Cup is a brilliant achievement, especially for a Motherwell player. Nobody should dismiss that. But context matters there as well. Two came against Iran. The other was a consolation in a 5–1 defeat to Belgium, and New Zealand still went out bottom of the group. That is still impressive, but it is not the same as dominating a knockout tie against France, Brazil or Argentina. The Engels and Fernandez comparisons are also a bit of a stretch. Celtic and Rangers sell from a completely different position. They have bigger wages, European exposure, stronger bargaining power, longer control in many cases, and clubs in England are more willing to pay a premium for players coming out of them. Motherwell do not get Celtic or Rangers prices just because the player may be comparable on the pitch. I wish it wasn't the case, but it is. I also agree that we should talk our players up. But talking them up doesn’t mean inventing a market that doesn’t exist. I'm trying to look at this from the position of a club who can afford someone like Just, and how they'll see it. For me, £4m for Just would not be insulting. It would be a very strong fee for a 26 year old attacking player from a non-Old Firm Scottish club. If we could get £3.5-£4m with serious add-ons and a sell-on clause, that would be very good business. Could a Celtic buy him for £4.5m and later sell him for more? Possibly. But that’s exactly the point. Celtic would be able to do that because they can offer Champions League exposure, a bigger platform and a stronger selling market. Motherwell selling directly from Fir Park are operating in a different market. So I’m not saying Just isn’t a class act. He is. I’m saying “class act” and “£10m player from Motherwell” are two very different things.
  21. Without all the sponsors on it the shirt wouldnt look too bad. I quite like the white Macron down the sleeves. A hark back to the old Scotland Umbro kits. However, the shorts/socks combo doesnt work for me. I also prefer claret shorts. But if we are going for white, the socks needed to be claret. All that said, Im also not the demographic its aimed at so it will probably go down a storm with the weans!
  22. Are you saying Just isnt worth ÂŁ4.5m on todays market? I dont want to diminish Lennon Millers impact or legacy at Motherwell FC, but one of the reasons we didnt miss him at all last season was Elijah Just. I understand your point about sell on, but at 26 I dont think its outwith the realms of possibility that Just has at least 1 more big move in him if he develops further. For example (and Id rather this didnt happen) if Celtic bought him for ÂŁ4.5m on a 4 year deal and sold him on in 2 years to the EPL after some Champions League level performances, they would easily double their money.
  23. Currently online looking to see if there are any affordable ways of getting to the Faroes. Anyone had any luck?
  24. I think you are underselling the player on almost every level. I am not an expert on transfer fees but I would imagine that finished articles sell for more than their younger selves. Would Ronaldo's first couple of transfers be anywhere near his transfer fee to Juventus? Three goals in a WC is three goals. As somebody joked earlier, he scored two more than the entire Scotland team combined and they played lowly Haiti. How many Scotland players in history have scored 3 goals at a WC? You can't underplay that sort of achievement. Just was fantastic last season and had more of an impact than Miller did at any time in his Motherwell career. EJ is worth ÂŁ10 million. Compare with Engels at Celtic. Just had a better season and look at the money Celtic have turned down for Engels Unfortunately Motherwell will never get ÂŁ10 million for him because he plays for Motherwell but there are worse players that have commanded more. Look at the valuation of Fernandez at Rangers. Was there not talk of ÂŁ18+ million for him? We need to be talking our players up not talking them down.
  25. I understand the hype coming off last season and all that, but I think we need to row it back a little as far as expectations go. I think people are putting far too much weight on a couple of World Cup performances and ignoring the bigger picture. Just is 26 years old and, prior to arriving here, his career trajectory was hardly that of a player clubs were lining up to spend huge money on. He spent years in Denmark moving between the first and second tiers, then had a spell in the Austrian second division, before ending up at what is seen as a mid-table Scottish Premiership club. Aye, he had a very good World Cup, but let’s keep perspective. He scored twice against Iran, then got a consolation goal against Belgium in a heavy defeat, and New Zealand still finished bottom of the group and went home early. That tournament absolutely raises his profile, but clubs don’t suddenly ignore 7 or 8 years of previous evidence because of three good games. The Lennon Miller comparison absolutely does not work for me either. Udinese paid for an 18-year-old with massive upside and potential resale value. Just is much closer to the finished article, which usually means lower upside and lower transfer fee, even if he’s arguably the better player today. If he was 20 and had just put in those performances, we’d be having a completely different conversation. But he isn't, so we're not.
  26. MJC

    New Kit

    The jersey is quite similar to the 2009/10 Canterbury effort especially with the badge and the manufacturer logo in the centre. That kit had amber shorts mind you.
  27. Spiderpig

    New Kit

    All depends on who's wearing them
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