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2 hours ago, Well Well said:
Still no sign of the doom mongers...like a breath of fresh air.
Thing is, if they only show up to wind people up when we lose, that could be classified as trolling.
And trolling is worthy of a ban, some might say. Maybe a three-day ban after we next lose a game? Would be a shame, eh?
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16 minutes ago, gaz7 said:
Wasn't just you giving stick david was quite a few.
I can't agree with your "stick was entirely warranted" comment any player coming to us should get benefit of doubt initially in my book but that's another debate.
I guess it depends on what you mean by "stick."
For example, whenever I was in the stadium watching the team, I never booed the guy. Or anyone on our team actually, as it's never productive. I always showed him support when the team were playing.
I guess all I did was question his signing and what he'd shown to that point to warrant being signed. But I always said that I'd love nothing more than him coming in and being one of the few who take his stats and turn them on their head. It doesn't happen often, but when it does, it really is a beautiful thing.
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28 minutes ago, stv said:
Just like Bair has done
Exactly. If Shaw managed to turn the corner and start scoring as well? Happy days for sure.
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Just now, wellgirl said:
I personally think he (and some others got too much stick ) and tbh there must come a time when you are under pressure and it might start to dent your confidence.
As harsh as it might sound, you must be able to deal with stick when you're a footballer at any reasonable level. It's going to be coming at you at some point. Messi, Maradona, and Ronaldo have been criticised over the years. It happens to the best of them.
How they deal with it will determine how successful they go on to be. Bair has taken the stick and the doubts about his ability and worked hard regardless, rising above it.
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8 minutes ago, gaz7 said:
Someone with his size strength and speed will always be capable of something in our league and why I couldn't believe stick he was getting earlier in season without having had a chance with us .
Well, he had spent an entire season previously in our league, playing over thirty games and accomplishing pretty much the same as he had previously in his career, save for a stint in the lower leagues of Norway. Absolutely nothing of note.
So, the stick was entirely warranted. I'm sure he'd admit that. But just as much as the stick was warranted on his numbers before signing for us, so is the praise he's getting now.
It works both ways.
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2 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:
Bair had a good game last night in terms of general play but....he's a striker that missed, what, 5-6 really good chances in the match?
Do you know what kind of striker scores all of those chances, though? Erling Haaland.
3 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:It's important for the team that his finishing improves because having a striker that can put the ball in the net makes all the difference in this league. You really need to be putting away at least 1 in 3.
The thing is, he is putting away almost 1 in 3, but the most important stat is his goals-per-game ratio. 0.3 goals per game, so almost a 1 in 3 ratio. That's almost the exact same as Kyogo, Luis Palma, and Cyriel Dessers this season, and is better than Maeda.
That's a remarkable stat considering his previous season at St Johnstone was laughable in terms of goals per game.
If you're looking for a striker who has a ratio of scoring 1 in 3 chances, then you're really looking at elite level strikers.
14 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:He's made big strides forward and it's not my intention to slate the guy, I'm glad he's looking more confident, but it's one of those one's where if a different player had missed those chances they'd probably be getting a harder time about it.
I don't agree. I think the fact he's getting chances and scoring them of late is really all we can ask. Anyone who's saying, "Yeah, well, he scored five in his last four or whatever is fine, but he should be scoring three goals per game", is mental.
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10 minutes ago, Inflato said:
Absolutely this... And hopefully the defensive backline at Morton have the same lack of intelligence as County.
100%. Bair should see a fair amount of success against Morton. Let's hope he can convert some of the chances.
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3 hours ago, bobbybingo said:
Still see folk elsewhere mumping about Bair missing chances. True, he did, but the main criticism of him earlier in the season - if I remember correctly - was he didn't get into the right positions to get chances.
That was the main criticism of him when he arrived, and it was my primary concern. Up until this season, he didn't look like a striker. His xG and so on suggested that he simply did not get into the positions that strikers need to get into.
All credit goes to Kettlewell and the coaching team, who have given him simple instructions to follow, which are proving effective.
You'll notice that his chances all kind of look similar, which is why he's scoring. He's still incredibly limited but has the sheer athleticism and size to allow him to take advantage of those limited abilities.
Basically, focus on what you can do, make sure you do it very well, and forget what you can't because at the age he's at now, he's likely not going to develop those skills anyway.
An example would be his running in behind the defence. We saw him do that multiple times last night. It's a simple enough instruction, but it takes someone with size and speed to carry it out. It also requires a level of defensive intelligence and physical ability to stop, and we don't see that much in the Scottish league. I'm sure Bair would run into issues at a higher level, but that doesn't matter to us.
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52 minutes ago, grizzlyg said:
If Shaw comes back then it gives us back up. Bair and Vale ahead of him. Obika is one injury away from another injury so makes sense to have another striker in
It also means that if Obika can stay fit (a huge if), then we're well served in that area. Plus, Kettlewell's plan at the start of the season of getting goals from midfield is working just fine. 9 goals from Spittal, 3 from Slattery, 2 from Miller and 1 from Paton.
Slattery is gone, but we've now got Halliday and Nicholson, plus Davor is getting a run in the team. Add in the fact that the likes of Mugabi are always good for a goal or three, and we're okay in that area, I think.
Most teams that run into proper relegation problems are the sides that find it difficult to score goals.
With that said, the statistics show that we've scored double the number of goals that Livingston and St Johnstone have, and scored more goals than Aberdeen, Ross County, Hibs, Dundee, St Mirren, and Killie.
On goals conceded, it's a different matter, but as I said, you generally find that the teams who run into relegation issues are the ones who can't score.
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At this stage it's clear that Bair is the first choice (and rightfully so), with Vale pushing for that position as well. Having Shaw back as an extra body? I wouldn't be against it. He'd be the third choice for sure unless he proved us wrong.
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1 hour ago, steelboy said:
No Miller again.
Utter shambles.
Not quite.
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2 hours ago, steelboy said:
Even compared to bad teams we were playing awful football. He barely got a pass to feet over about half a dozen games.
Nah, he knew exactly where he was coming to.
He didn't leave us because he arrived at Fir Park to be dismayed at how we were playing. He left because he got a chance to test himself and get some more experience at a higher level.
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On 2/3/2024 at 12:40 PM, steelboy said:
The guy spent months chasing overhit long balls so everything he says is true.
True, he was likely under the impression that he was coming to Fir Park to play total football, with a wee bit of tika taka on the side, right?
Sold a bill of goods for sure.
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On 2/4/2024 at 8:49 AM, bobbybingo said:
Victory won't save us, defeat won't kill us, but still a huge game in this wonky league. Level on points in the play-off place, or 6 points above it and probably 1 point off 6th, for 24 hours at least.
3-1
Bang on. A win provides some breathing room. A defeat would drag us right into the play-off battle. Neither result would define our season as yet, but it's pretty clear which option we'd all prefer.
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10 hours ago, wellfan said:
I didn't refer to you individually. I spoke of increasing levels of apologists on here and i likened it to a mass onset of Stockholm syndrome.
I engage in critical debate with many individuals here, and I have strong options, but I'm also sorry if you've felt personally targeted. I try not to get personal, except for calling the manager or players shite or brilliant.
The main point of my reply to your post on the Daws thread was ultimately to pick you up on your view that we aren't currently in a slump, because I think we most definitely are.
At the end of the day, I don't care if I’m in the minority when it comes to calling for Kettlewell to get the sack, and I don't care if others disagree with me, but it's a public forum so I will continue to espouse that view and try to back it up. And that leads to direct debate with others on here, as you know.
Again, sorry if my post seemed personal. I'll try to rethink my wording in the future.
Your post was fine, there was no personal attack. You posted your opinion, which is perfectly acceptable. Not everyone is going to agree with each other, but as long as it's kept within a certain level of respect and decent discussion then there isn't a problem.
This is a football forum. It's going to get heated, and there will be a robust exchange of views. The admin and moderators keep an eye on what's being said, and if it crosses the line we deal with it.
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3 minutes ago, robsterwood said:
That means we could have got van veen for 75k. Why did we not push for that?
Because the people in charge of the club don't think Van Veen was worth the outlay. We offered what we deemed to be what he's worth. Other clubs decided to offer more.
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On 1/30/2024 at 6:43 PM, well_said said:
I wouldn't put it past that slimy mob from the east end trying to find a way out of the sell on fee.
The same mob who are taking back Montgomery and have seemingly agreed to waive our obligation to pay a percentage of his wages until he's fully fit again? I mean, I know they're the nasty enemy, but I don't think they're at the level where they'd try to do us out of what we're legally owed.
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1 minute ago, wellgirl said:
I personally don't think our transfer window was a total disaster. Apparently we missed out on a couple of options because of where we are in the table - relegation rivals and we apparently just missed out on a Sunderland player. I don't think for a minute that Kettlewell wasn't trying his best to bring another forward in.
I don't think it was as bad as some do, but I don't see much rhyme or reason to our signings. I'm sure the manager was keen on bringing players in, but beyond handing the recruitment team his requirements, I don't know if there's much more he can do.
It's not his job to sift through the available players on the market and ring their agent or parent club. It's his job to identify where we need players and then coach the team he's given.
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31 minutes ago, robsterwood said:
Moderators need to be looking at some of them.
If you see something that you feel oversteps the line, report it. We don't always catch everything.
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2 hours ago, steelboy said:
Was it not 20 grand?
I seriously doubt it. I've worked with marketing firms in London for public transport campaigns that didn't cost that much.
1 hour ago, gaz7 said:I get that a forum is for all opinions and we can't all be positive but by God the last 24 hours have been negativity central.
After the transfer window we've had, I can't really blame them. I doubt we're the only club whose fans will be pissed off, though. A certain team from the east end of Glasgow springs to mind.
23 minutes ago, maz said:I see the curry club over in Pie and Bovril have been slating this forum. Quite ironic as many of them were having meltdowns last night that would put this thread to shame.
To each their own I guess. I've posted a few times over there, but a forum with only one thread on Motherwell doesn't hold much appeal for me. I actually prefer it here.
And even our regular moaners tend to at least have a coherent reason for their thinking, even if I don't agree with them often.
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1 minute ago, steelboy said:
We are skint but we can pay a fortune for a stupid video from an Edinburgh advertising agency.
We didn't spend a "fortune" on that video.
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11 minutes ago, MJC said:
As a club we are in trouble imo, on and off the park. Financially we are flagging and without knowing all the ins and outs I struggle to see how we can sustain our position as a top flight, full time club when we are told that we can’t even match half of what the likes of Killie and St.Mirren can offer signing targets. What is our plan going forward? Do we simply live hand to mouth, day to day and hope that there are worst sides than us in the league to help us avoid the drop? Because that’s what it looks like.
Our management and recruitment are are falling way short of where they should be. We looked poorly coached every week and I cannot for the life of me understand why we’ve added two more full backs on the last day of the window when it was clear that up front was where we needed to strengthen.
A few points there worth addressing:
1. I don't think we're "financially flagging" at all. In fact, we seem to be in a relatively good space financially. Now, that doesn't mean we can sustain ourselves as a top-flight club. It could become the case that we can't do that with the financial restrictions we're working under. But that doesn't mean we're "financially flagging". It just means we're not as financially well-off as those around us.
2. As someone else has said, we don't know if we couldn't match what Killie and St Mirren were offering or if we just didn't see the value in it. The whole thing had a bit of a bidding war about it, and I definitely believe that Killie paid over the odds if the numbers being bandied about are true.
3. I don't know if we look "poorly coached" either. We're certainly not at our best this season, but we're 9th in the league. I could understand the crying and panic if we were in the position Livi are in, but we're not.
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5 hours ago, MJC said:
The usual mugs in our support will cheer him no matter what he does.
No they won't. He'll maybe get a wee round of applause when he warms up, but he'll certainly not get cheered if he scores against us, for example.
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7 minutes ago, wunderwell said:
Well this is my last post on this site.
Off to P and B to chat to people with similar thoughts.Far be it for me to defend or champion the cause of the people you're talking about, but the world would be boring if we all agreed.
Or, it would be like a Twitter feed—an echo chamber.
Most people here bring something to the discussion, and everyone adds value in their own way. But the call is yours to make. Hopefully, we'll see you back at some point.
2023/24 ins & outs discussion
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I'm not sure what kind of player is going to be sold on coming in as a third-choice striker at Motherwell. Our options are limited there.