Big Stall 401 Report post Posted January 26, 2010 It never ceases to amaze me the knowledge of your average punter on this forum I never realised that the 'Well had so many horticulturalists supporting them. I think you will find browsing these boards, a number of experts in many fields Too be fair though, you don't have to be a horticulturalist, or even a groundsman to note how shite the pitch looked on Saturday. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Jonesy 15 Report post Posted January 26, 2010 I think Brown said something in his interview on Saturday that the covers had been left on for weeks and that kills the grass. Considering Saturday was our first home game in almost a month that is fucking ridiculous. All points towards shite groundsmen, no matter how much effort was put in during the summer. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Stall 401 Report post Posted January 26, 2010 I think Brown said something in his interview on Saturday that the covers had been left on for weeks and that kills the grass. Considering Saturday was our first home game in almost a month that is fucking ridiculous. All points towards shite groundsmen, no matter how much effort was put in during the summer. Thats what I thought as well. Not a groundsman, but neither is Brown and he seemed to know about covers killing grass. Cant we have let the snow fall and then clear it? Or leave the covers on for the two days of snow and then remove snow and covers? Surely the minute that Accies game was called off 3 days before the match for the burst pipes, we should have had the US turned off and covers removed given we were not due to play at home again for weeks. Maybe we did, maybe its our manager who is mistaken?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
studos 7 Report post Posted January 26, 2010 I think Brown said something in his interview on Saturday that the covers had been left on for weeks and that kills the grass. Considering Saturday was our first home game in almost a month that is fucking ridiculous. All points towards shite groundsmen, no matter how much effort was put in during the summer. Please can I watch Ian's reaction to you personally calling him a shite groundsman I'm sure he will be pleased to hear your informed feedback Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pepper 236 Report post Posted January 27, 2010 Maybe warrantys go when they hear we had the US heating running for 3 weeks with pitch covers on top, even though we were only scheduled to be playing the one game on it anyway! That's the bit I can't understand either. How can it be so bad when its hardly been used? The speed that it has gone from looking like a decent pitch to a midden is rediculous. I don't think anyone wants to blame the groundsmen, but they're fast running out of excuses. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dk2301 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2010 maybe the groundsmen should go ask someone at colvilles or dl park for some advice on how to keep the pitch in great condition... as these are some of the best playing surfaces around at amatuer level and and are used alot more than fir park. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Onthefringes 673 Report post Posted January 27, 2010 It never ceases to amaze me the knowledge of your average punter on this forum I never realised that the 'Well had so many horticulturalists supporting them. Well, some have qualifications in this field Then we drive a tractor over it to feed it mid winter, rip up the baldy patches then go and clear B&Q out of bog standard turf and slap it on the park. The pitch required to be fed, same for all other clubs, ecology that one. Use of undersoil heating systems naturally has the root system thinking it's growth season. Use of tractor on a sodden surface? Folly. Increased task maybe, this could have been handled manually. If remedial work was required, could the area between the South and Main Stand not be utilised as a nursery patch given the same processes of the pitch last close season with turf of similar quality? It worked before... That's the bit I can't understand either. How can it be so bad when its hardly been used? The speed that it has gone from looking like a decent pitch to a midden is rediculous. I don't think anyone wants to blame the groundsmen, but they're fast running out of excuses. To align with current industry talk, understanding the first winter was to be difficult and we'd have problems, particularly if it was harsh which it has proved. The pitch has succumbed to the process of 'leaching', whereby water has been standing then draining too quickly. With incorrect use of surface protection or warmth causing baldness just like in yer average follically challenged fellow. Totally avoidable, tut tut groundsman. Please can I watch Ian's reaction to you personally calling him a shite groundsman I'm sure he will be pleased to hear your informed feedback Anytime you want, he's proven he couldn't put a nut in a monkeys mouth. Again. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Stall 401 Report post Posted January 27, 2010 Please can I watch Ian's reaction to you personally calling him a shite groundsman I'm sure he will be pleased to hear your informed feedback Didnt he say back in the summer that he wanted to be judged on this pitch? His pitch?? Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steelboy 1,046 Report post Posted January 27, 2010 Didnt he say back in the summer that he wanted to be judged on this pitch? His pitch?? maybe he's got a belter of a back lawn. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Well_Jaggy 25 Report post Posted January 27, 2010 That's the bit I can't understand either. How can it be so bad when its hardly been used?It doesn't matter that its hardly been used. It's the fact that it has been down to -15c, its been covered for 3 weeks, Undersoil heating being on (ok that may have been a mistake....) and with the new drainage the water is just rushing through the soil since the grass root structure is not yet fully established. hey, sh1t happens. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dougie arnotts barmy army 0 Report post Posted January 27, 2010 It doesn't matter that its hardly been used. It's the fact that it has been down to -15c, its been covered for 3 weeks, Undersoil heating being on (ok that may have been a mistake....) and with the new drainage the water is just rushing through the soil since the grass root structure is not yet fully established. hey, sh1t happens. Aye but why does that shit always happen to us!! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Diggle 657 Report post Posted January 27, 2010 It doesn't matter that its hardly been used. It's the fact that it has been down to -15c, its been covered for 3 weeks, Undersoil heating being on (ok that may have been a mistake....) and with the new drainage the water is just rushing through the soil since the grass root structure is not yet fully established. hey, sh1t happens. That's not 'shit happening' that's 'shit that it was allowed to happen' Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
jonnymfc 6 Report post Posted January 27, 2010 I think you will find browsing these boards, a number of experts in many fields Too be fair though, you don't have to be a horticulturalist, or even a groundsman to note how shite the pitch looked on Saturday. Top comment mate made me chuckle Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
niall 1 Report post Posted January 27, 2010 maybe the groundsmen should go ask someone at colvilles or dl park for some advice on how to keep the pitch in great condition... as these are some of the best playing surfaces around at amatuer level and and are used alot more than fir park. hahaha, pull the other one. Dalziel park is only "good" because no-one is allowed to play on it when there is a hint of rain in london... Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
mjw 322 Report post Posted January 27, 2010 Greeting about the pitch tonight on open all mikes (allan preston the instigator)wanting the cup semi moved Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
steelman1991 212 Report post Posted January 27, 2010 He's just a FHW - the pitch at Grangemouth tonight was not a lot better than ours - doesn't make ours right though. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Finlay 166 Report post Posted January 28, 2010 Aye, spot on. Falkirk pitch wasn't the best tonight but it WAS better than ours. No question. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Robyn 1 Report post Posted January 29, 2010 Incase anyone is interested. New goal mouth laid yesterday. Just seen the pictures posted on facebook. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Big Stall 401 Report post Posted January 29, 2010 Incase anyone is interested. New goal mouth laid yesterday. Just seen the pictures posted on facebook. So all the growing from seed palavar wasn't really needed if we just have to lay new grass every 6 months anyways. On the positive aspects though, Old Trafford wasn't looking too clever the other night either. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperSteelman 14 Report post Posted January 29, 2010 Incase anyone is interested. New goal mouth laid yesterday. Just seen the pictures posted on facebook. Looks nice. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
dosser1886 130 Report post Posted January 29, 2010 Greeting about the pitch tonight on open all mikes (allan preston the instigator)wanting the cup semi moved Allan Preston is a complete and utter fanny, he seem to have a real beef with all things MFC. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
nethertonwellfan 274 Report post Posted January 29, 2010 Looks nice. Your Joking aren't you ? It looks fucking stupid! Anyway its better than Saturday so that's all that matters. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Rickoza 66 Report post Posted January 29, 2010 Allan Preston is a complete and utter fanny, he seem to have a real beef with all things MFC. Don't think he's ever forgiving us for all but getting him the sack at Luvvies. He was the Manager when we absolutely humped them 5-0 in the CIS QF at Almondvale. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
SuperSteelman 14 Report post Posted January 29, 2010 Your Joking aren't you ? It looks fucking stupid! Anyway its better than Saturday so that's all that matters. Yes i was , it is actually quite embarrassing. Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Pepper 236 Report post Posted January 30, 2010 That's gonna look great on the telly innit! Quote Share this post Link to post Share on other sites