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Not saying we were not a better team when Watt was with us........he showed us on Saturday how good his hold up play is.... but to highlight his departure as the major reason we have struggled to score does not really stand up. Which truthfully did surprise me. Someone can maybe check my arithmetic but your post got me looking over the results post and pre Watt. In the 15 League games since Watt left Motherwell the team has scored 14 goals. So less than a goal a game which is just not good enough. By comparison, in the 15 League games before he left we scored a grand total of 14 goals. The exact same. Not looked up how many of those he scored but he had gone off the boil following his excellent start to the season. And his scoring record has not returned at Utd. Certainly no more talk of a Scotland call up. In summary I think the decline is down to much more than letting Watt leave. Add to that the fact that our opponents have sussed out our tactics/set up and our paltry goal return is no longer good enough to scrape wins. Our determination to stick with certain players and an undermanned midfield became predictable and hurt us. Unsurprisingly our improved performance on Saturday coincided with a long overdue change of set up. For the first time in ages I thought we deserved something from the game. VVD also deserves his arse kicked for picking up needless yellow cards which meant he missed two winnable games where we created chances but took zero points. To me VVD had taken over as our major goal threat even before Watt left. Regards "supposed" targets. Top 6. Achieved so well done for that. But let's not go overboard. We are in a poor League. Europe and 4th/5th was entirely possible given our league position pre break. Might still be secured but it will be a disappointment if that does not work out and our points gathering earlier in the season is not properly reflected in the table. Cup Results. Not really much of a target or achievement reaching a Quarter Final. League cup we were rotten and were lucky to qualify from the Group. We then went out to the first Premiership team we faced. And that team are about to be relegated. Scottish Cup we struggled to beat a mid table championship team at Fir Park, played well to defeat a bottom six Premiership team at Fir Park and then blew it at Fir Park against another bottom six Premiership team in the Quarter Final. So despite the hype, our Cup Results were poor and in both cases a great chance to make a financially rewarding trip to Hampden was missed. Targets need to set a real challenge. Not so sure ours did.

Aye, lose this one and I'm not sure I'd bother going to the Hearts game. Can do without the negativity I my life, and if we do turn in a great performance and get a result it would he even more frustrating. It's the hope that gets you.

Looking at previous posts it will hopefully help when we have Vevin Van Deen available for Saturday!! OLO

We can't retain the ball because we are usually out numbered in midfield and our defenders and goalkeeper are instructed to hoof the ball long in the hope we get a break. Or for Woolery to try to get his head to. Reminds me of the Fraser Kerr days. When VVD is not suspended that sometimes works because he can hold the ball up every bit as well as Watt did. Decent midfielders like Slattery and O'Hara were sidelined by Alexander because he had no use for them. Much better to play headless chickens like Efford who will chase after those punts upfield.

Merely pointed out you were incorrect in suggesting our downturn was due to losing our top scorer in January. Or am I misreading the above comment. We have scored as many goals in the games since Watt left as we did in that same number of games immediately before he left. And created as many chances. You failed to respond to that fact and instead seem to be yet again using Watt's departure to deflect from how poor Alexander has been in the past four months, if not before when points gained offset some awful outings. Teams, even poor teams, worked out how to negate our one dimensional approach and until Saturday Alexander showed no willingness or ability to try anything different. He did adapt on Saturday and in my opinion it was our best performance in months. Still a defeat, but this time a defeat that was not deserved. Oh and just to emphasise why top six should be a minimum expectation and not the Holy Grail, the last time your projected top 6 worked out as you suggested, in any order, looks to have been 1991-92. So history does not support that reasoning either. Watt's departure is not the major reason we have failed to turn up for most matches since he left.

If that's up for it then god help us

I was good at history.......or was I?.......so long ago

The same rumours and hearsay that surrounds every club whenever things aren't going well.

More likely Hiya Gordon.

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