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Never heard as much shite in all my life, you really do seem to have issues with the police. For me people are assumed to be innocent until proved guilty, and as for police tactics that's for them to decide that's what the general public expect when we get them to keep us safe. If any criminality has taken place then those responsible deserve all they get, so are we to assume that all the Bois are wee angels and innocent and victims of your perceived police incompetence, bias or whatever conspiracy you subscribe to? Or do you agree that the few responsible should be taken to account for any alleged incidents, as I am sure the majority would agree with.

Like others, i have no involvement with the lads or knowledge on what has been going on. I would say however, to the normal observer, the thought of the police conducting "dawn raids" with no evidence does seem a bit far fetched. I stand to be corrected of course & while there are no doubt a small number of police officers with jumped up attitudes, generally you dont get hit with a full police operation unless you have been up to something. To put Robbos boys post in a bit more polite tone, enjoy the support the Motherwell fans have been giving the bois throughout, but dont expect that support to be automatic and unconditional if there are unsavoury or unlawful incidents. Fair?

Plenty of folk have enjoyed the atmosphere the lads generate and have recognised, praised and often contributed to their various displays and good causes. For what it's worth I do appreciate much of what they add to matches and I hope they continue to contribute. And I support their right to do so. But plenty of folk, me included, old folk and not so old folk, have also witnessed the types of incidents Robbos Boy mentions. From Kilmarnock to Paisley, from Dingwall to Kirkcaldy. Like you I have no foot in any camp. I don't know any of the Bois and I don't know any Club Officials or Police involved. I can only comment on what I have regularly witnessed and it appears to me that the so called "self policing" is not working. And sadly the incidents have been escalating. I don't usually agree with much that Robbos Boy comes up with, but on this occasion I think he makes a valid point. It may well only apply to a small minority within the group, but to suggest that The Bois do not go too far at times and to palm off any criticism as older fans with an axe to grind is nonsense. But if you truly believe that incidents in the places I mentioned or that Robbos Boy highlighted did not occur, were exaggerated or were just high jinx, then so be it. I know what I have seen and heard and I fear it is only a matter of time until someone is seriously hurt.. I do hope the Bois can resolve the issues they have with some employees of Motherwell FC and also which I believe exist within their membership. That should then result in less confrontations with Police, Stewards and fellow Motherwell fans. There definitely appears to be plenty of good people with commendable intentions within the group. Fir Park especially and grounds throughout Scotland would be the worse off for their absence.

In other news I see Soccer AM is finishing at end of season, just my opinion but should have ended about 10 years ago, just the same patter and jokes every week......oh hang on......i've just described myself!! 😜😜

The incident mentioned in the above post where Celtic fans/The Green Brigade/Celtic fans led by the Green Brigade trashed the South Stand at Fir Park happened in December 2013 and rightly had the majority of the Motherwell support up in arms at both it happening and the lack of action taken against the perpetrators. Then, less than two years later in October 2015, the ‘Well Bois’ participated in a joint protest with the Green Brigade/Celtic support over supposed unfair treatment of football fans. In other words they stood shoulder to shoulder with the same group who had caused thousands of pounds worth of damage to Fir Park with little to no comeback on it. I don’t speak for anybody else but in my eyes that group lost most if not all credibility they had when complaining about harsh treatment by police and stewards there and then. And that is before you take into account some of the behaviours they have displayed on more than one occasion since then. If they don’t want to be seen as ‘Green Brigade wannabes’ then don’t stand along side them greetin about the police when they attract attention for their bad behaviour and stick two fingers up to the club they support and the rest of your fellow fans in the process. And don’t release big chest-puffed-out statements about boycotts full of poor grammar and spelling and then deliver a half arsed attempt at a boycott like they did on Saturday. Like I said in my first reply on this subject, everything about this episode is very Green Brigade.

He may well be 3rd choice at the moment if you think bringing in Gunn was the correct decision but he should have at least 1 or 2 caps to his name by now if Clarke was in any way competent. Excellent club form is never a guarantee of excellent international form, but nobody could deny that he should have been tried out in some of the games he's been called up for, the Same applies to a fair few of the outfield players as well.

All getting heated , time for a grizzly joke?.....ok....I understand..lol

We assume it, because most of us who are casual observers 'assume' that the police are in general there to serve and enforce the law. If you or anyone else has evidence to suggest something different then by all means, let us and the media know about it. Assuming (again) that dawn raids have been happening, why do the bois have a beef with the club? Surely they should be protesting outside the police station? Unless of course we sent Butcher and Bevis down to kick someones door in

Irrespective of which side of the debate you're on, if indeed any, I think most of us agree that business as normal isn't an option. Some get together / resolution is required.

I’ve stayed out of this discussion and read the various comments on here and other forums etc There is no doubt in my mind that the end section contributes massively to the atmosphere at fir park and has done for a number of years. Of course there are a couple of clowns within their groups but the same could be said for most groups that go to the games and for most sections of each of the home stands. I would say the club needs them though and needs to accommodate them within reason. We can’t afford to lose this group or the numbers within it. What’s needed is a maturity within the club to get around the table like adults and talk to them. Set the rules out , give them clarity, talk to them like grown ups and then if they blow it they’ve only themselves to blame. So what’s the problem…. Well that lies at the door of a jumped up , self preservation champion who believes he is better than everyone and knows better than everyone, who has the people skills of well … a retired/failed member of Strathclydes finest. The man who is always there when he is never wanted and never there when he is needed. Sure that was part of his previous employment training as well. All allegedly of course. I just wonder how he got appointed in the first place ????!!!!!

Semantics Mr Park. Entry to the ground with at least one box full of glossy copy paper isn’t exactly sneaking the stuff in so ‘access granted to the away support for a display’ isn’t an untruth.