Motherwellfc1991

This is most money that has been spent on a squad in our history in a pre season and the most money we have in the bank in our history. The board have got the appointment wrong , the signings wrong and the manager in turn has got the tactics wrong and the balance wrong . The players can’t be changed until January , the board won’t sack themselves so sadly the manager needs to go and go tonight. Special mention though to a few players who you could wholeheartedly say have downed tools deliberately- 3 shockers in a row from the man who can do no wrong in the supporters eyes - disgraceful attitude on and off the park. Selling Watt and the keeper for below market value a massive mistake when replacing them with lacklustre rubbish

Well if Nick Daws was in anyway involved with signing Willie Vogts it’s more than a mention he should get

Jens was an absolute find Alfred is the polar opposite . From the outside looking in he’s simply not got the personality and authority for the job or the league. Cut our losses and pay him off - we’ve wasted plenty money on other things this season so just add his appointment to the list All the hard work to get the feel good factor , club on the up, better attendances all brought to its knees with a guy out his depth arguably not helped by some shocking signings We dont have a single leader in that dressing room and don’t have a player who can tackle ,there is no balance

Those suggesting and believing the manager should get more time - what is exactly will that achieve ? The more time he spends with the team the worse we look, the more disconnected the players look and the more he knuckles down on his style of play that to me looks like playing out from the back side to side until pressed then hoof it to a lone striker with no one near him I ask again what will time achieve ?

Poor managerial appointment and an extremely poor set of signings especially given the money we have spent on them There seems to be little fight, aggression or pride in that squad i struggle to work out what plan A is ,our form and performances are relegation stuff We won’t sack him before Xmas but we won’t win before then either

Is there maybe something going on in the background that is affecting the group? Don’t think lobby is far from reality with the senior player comment from Rosenberg emerging at Fir Park I don’t think he should be sacked just now and needs to be given time but he also needs to realise his approach isn’t working with the players he has and the players that are constantly under performing need dropped. Fadinger and said are the mainstay of us being able to perform and need played in their best positions. I won’t be popular with this but that means there is no place for Lowry. We got away with luxury players last season as Slats, Watt and Just were unbelievable and they had Fadi , Said and an in form massenahise around them . They’ve gone now and when we don’t have the quality we need a couple of leaders and battlers - masswahise , Cook, Hodge, Lowry, Kanga aren’t the players for that sadly We have enough quality to do ok when everyone is fit but the balance , fitness, shape and tactics need to be right. My biggest worry is our goalkeeper isn’t big enough or good enough and we have no real back up. Combine that we no real leader it could be a long and difficult few months

There’s no doubting the standards of football and the pleasing on the eye entertainment has been unreal this season but there defo is sadly and in reality another side of the story . AP going on loan, not signing a striker of any ability and persisting with masswanhise has sadly been catalysts to a really poor end to the season . Europe should have been sewn up weeks ago and we’ve bottled it severely / that’s just a fact. Tonight’s corruption is another story altogether but we as a club are as much to blame as the other 9 outwith the old firm as we just don’t stand up for ourselves and seem to except it. The scenes at the end tonight were shocking but nothing new but we as a club should be doing much more to avoid that and protect our players and fans. Strathclydes finest hiding in their vans outside are a disgrace . Infact the sfa spfl and the police are all as corrupt as each other

Soon as I saw the starting 11 today I was a little shocked . Wasn’t a fan of Liam Gordon last season but he has been much improved this season . He also is really the only aerial threat we have defensively and attacking wise. Both goals came about today through defensive mistakes. Brian Graham bullied McGinn today as well physically when he came on. Starting Callum Hendry today was also strange . Read a few posts on here saying people thought he played well . Positionally he was extremely poor and on 4 occasions in the 1st half a striker with any goalscoring instinct has 3 tap ins. Yes he hasn’t had much game time but I’ve seen nothing so far to suggest he is any form of upgrade on Moses never mind anything else . His performance today very similar to when I watched him play for St Johnstone - no real end product and ran about rather aimlessly. Our manager has taken plenty plaudits so far for his style of football and rightly so but at the end of the day we still need to win our share of football games and so far he has only managed 1 out of 8 which no matter how it is glossed if this continues will see us slide closer to the foot of the table . Yes we have some cracking players , yes we have played some great stuff and at times have been great to watch but we don’t seem to be learning any lessons week on week on how to kill teams off and win games . The manager needs to sort this out quickly as this is on him. We have a distinct lack of fire power and we also seem to ship very soft goals - the manager has signed plenty players but looks to have wasted a fair bit of wages on players who are no where near as good as the starting 11 and he hasn’t managed to improve our weaker positions - January window is really important . Our squad and style is Miles better than last season but I’m not sure our points tally or league position is or will be if we don’t learn any lessons week on week and don’t have a striker - it’s actually scary the lack of options - heaven forbid AP gets injured it will be a long few months to the window

Just back from game . Certainly more Possession today I think and created a few half chances and wee spell of pressure in 2nd half . No malice just an opinion but playing SODs will take us down . Midfield today was powder puff. Bossed , bullied and united fitter sharper and just better in the engine room player to player . Miller guilty a few times of drawing out of challenges as well Feel sorry for Wilson out his depth and looks devoid of confidence . Keeper did well , Casey and right back ok and thought sparrow and two strikers tried hard. We just lack quality and fitness and strength all over the pitch . It is gonna be tough to stay in the league and that is on Kettlewell . We need the manager to work a miracle and quickly

New mangers only real remit should be to keep us up and away from the playoffs . That is a tough gig itself as not many of these players will really care about where we end up this season. Once that is done he has a big summer coming up to get rid of the dross he has inherited and rebuild for next season . Make no doubt about it our current squad is very very poor. Next season will be up and down with a full new squad but hopefully we start playing football and have some players with some ability and passion . Imagine a right back who can pass the ball forward , a team creating chances and playing with intensity - we can start dreaming

Would love to hear who these 6 players are

I assume the Lennon miller and Tony watt votes are taking the mickey . Miller looked like a lost wee boy out there today but not helped by the system or senior pro meant to be playing beside him

I saw enough today to know that we are in real trouble . Attitude of several players is a worry as is the lack of ability . Not sure if it’s calculated manipulation on the 3 senior players part or will full blindness on the part of management but how on earth to they continue to get a game . No leadership in that team , no desire and no balance . Kettlewell has really done the dirty on us with his signings and calculated underhand exit

On our league position - right now it’s very healthy and if this continues then there’s little argument on the manager . The purpose of finishing higher and higher is to get more money and then in turn improve the team/player standard and the club - that’s where the debate can really start at the end of this season when we see the league position against the balance sheet. Whether the happy clappy brigade want to admit it or not the standard on show and the product on the pitch is dreadful to watch but that is a lot down to the how the manager sets the team up. It’s a fine balance of course but yesterday for me and the lack of any standard does stop people coming to fir park. Not many of the extra 4k at the game yesterday will be back anytime soon. Apart from the occasion itself there’s next to nothing to bring them back - a defensive team - a team with no style - hoofball - zero entertainment - a team chasing shadows with no out ball - a team that couldn’t force a save out an opposition goalkeeper with one real chance in 90 minutes - a team with players that jog rather than sprint 5 minutes after they come on - a team with a manager who chooses his own deluded take on proceedings As I said at the top now’s not the time to judge a manager fully , the end of the season is but even the most claret and amber tinted glass wearing happy clappy must see that set ups and performances like yesterday won’t tap into this fan base people at the club and the full society board keep harping on about. We the fans filled the allocation yesterday backed the team and we got zero entertainment and a manger in my opinion who didn’t know how to beat the poorest new rangers team in their history - that mainly due to poor signings and a naivety of what a proper performance never mind the result could have done to attract the floating fan back for more. Pass marks so far for league position but yesterday an epic fail to bolster our fans back to Fir Park rhetoric that’s being pushed by many inside the club/society

I find it ironic that our safety officer can’t put arrangements in place to prevent ‘doubling up’ at turnstiles when Celtic come to town and jeopardise our safety certificate and a fine but is quick to play the safety card to ruin the east stand by removing the front row to cover up a monumental mistake on his part He continues to play the big I am until there’s a proper problem then he’s nowhere to be seen.