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  1. Hey Guys, looking for a bit of help.

    My Son has asked Santa for the away kits/tops from 2019/20 (white) and 2017/18 (black) both Macron, which obviously can't be bought anywhere.

    Any chance any fellow well fans have kids grown out of these and are in decent condition?  He's 9 but quite big for his age.

    Happy to pay a decent rate for them, and it would save the magic of Santa for maybe 1 more year :)

    Please let me know.

    Thanks,

    Colin

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  2. Definately! Its a bit sad the likes of McLean or Turnbull are nowhere near the team. Even the lad Livingstone who is a proper left back! But we have guys like Rose & Dunne who seem bulletproof even tho some matches youd struggle to believe theyd ever seen a football

     

    McLean came off the bench against Accies, so i wouldn't say he's "nowhere near the team".

  3. They can't be trusted though. They have the right, but they can't be trusted. Granted it was a few years ago, but the last Milwall game I was at (where booze was on sale inside the stadium), a large group of their fans ripped off the seats and started chucking them onto the pitch at the end of the game.

     

     

    The difference being that in England they won't overreact and change the law because of one or two groups of fans.

     

     

    Trouble in once match in Scotland saw the ban coming in to force. As it was the only match that matters in Scottish football and nobody else matters.

  4. I remember the start of the Jim Gannon era with a lot of hope and excitement. The first couple of month or so went really well and things were looking good, young players coming through and the team playing well.

     

     

     

    However I think some folk are forgetting how bad it actually was after that initial period. While his sacking was mainly down to factors away from the results on the pitch, the team were absolutely shocking in that period.

     

     

     

    Gannon won only 1 of his last 10 games at Motherwell, conceding 25 goals!

     

     

    His head was stuck so far up his own arse that despite shipping goals for fun he never once in an SPL match started with Craigan and Reynolds. (As far as I remember)

     

     

    The first thing Brown did when he came in was revert back to Craigan and Reynolds in the centre of defence, the result? 2 goals conceded in the next 10 SPL games.

     

     

     

    I fully believe that if Gannon hadn't got the bullet, the slide would have continued and we'd have been in serious trouble.

  5. That's what I'm hoping. Couldn't make it over for this tie, but would be able to come over fro the group stages :cheers:

     

    Absolutely no logical reason for thinking it, as Kuban clearly should be better than us in every department. There's also the play off round to negotiate (most likely against more high class opposition), but I've got a funny feeling in my gut about the Europa League this season!

     

     

    :thumbup:

  6. No, but the problem is that it's overseas/long distance fans that make up a lot of the extra numbers for a game of a lifetime like Pana. Our sustained league success has made the Europa League less of an event and not as big a draw as a Cup Final or Champions League game.

     

    Exactly,

     

    We'll see the place packed to the rafters for the first group game! :evilgrin:

  7. How can clubs say they lose money by playing in europe but jump on a plane for pre season ?

     

    How can you compare jumping on a schedule flight to Alicante to chartering a plane to Iceland/Albania etc?

     

    Apples and bananas.

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  8. If an unseeded beats a seeded in any round, they take the seeded status into the next round I think.

     

    This is true, but only if the draw for the next round is before the conclusion of the current round.

     

     

    eg. If Rosenborg were to lose to an unseeded team in round 1, that team would be defacto seeded in round 2 as the draw for round 2 had already taken place. They would not then be seeded in round 3 as the draw fo round 3 is after the conclusion of round 1.

     

     

    They like to make things simple! :whistling:

  9. "Seeded teams

     

     

    Does that mean, hypothetically, that if Hibs (who are unseeded) played one of these teams and won...........mean that they are seeded for the next draw??

     

     

    Kind of.

     

     

    The draw for our round is before the completion of the previous round.

     

    So "Winner of Rubin Kazan vs Hibs" would assume Rubin Kazan's seeding in round 3 draw.

     

    If Hibs were then to win the tie, the draw would have aready been done so they would be playing an unseeded side.

  10. I can just hear them growling at you, (in Welsh), as we speak :laugh:

     

     

    HA! :laugh:

     

     

    I hadn't even noticed that (copied and pasted)

     

     

    but if they are going to take Englands coefficient of 16.5926 and not Wales's of 0.5166 then they can't complain about me calling them English (they are representing England in the competition!)

  11. To be fair, to get to Glasgow from a lot of these places you'd need to go via London or another hub. Some might be 100s of miles from an airport mind you!

     

    Surely they are just doing our journey in reverse?

     

     

    The pot of teams we could get in terms of travelling looks a lot better to me than it has in previous years.

     

    They kind of fall into 3 brackets:

     

    1) Would likely be a bastard to get to:

    • Rubin Kazan Rus
    • Hapoel Tel-Aviv Isr
    • Maccabi Haifa Isr
    • Metalurg Donetsk Ukr
    • Chernomorets Odesa Ukr
    • Trabzonspor Tur
    • Bursaspor Tur

     

    2) Probably OK but might be some issues:

    • Lech Poznan Pol
    • AaB Aalborg Den
    • Anorthosis Famagusta Cyp
    • Rosenborg BK Nor
    • MSK Zilina Svk
    • Levski Sofia Bul
    • Omonia Nicosia Cyp

     

    3) Would be a skoosh:

     

    • Standard Liège Bel
    • Udinese Ita
    • Club Brugge Bel
    • Viktoria Plzeň/Sparta Prague Cze
    • AS Saint-Étienne Fra
    • Sevilla/Getafe/Levante/Espanyol/Athletic Bilbao Esp
    • FC Zürich Sui
    • Swansea City Eng
    • Eintracht Frankfurt/VfB Stuttgart Ger
    • FC Utrecht Ned
    • Estoril Praia Por
    • Rapid Vienna/Sturm Graz Aut

  12. If I am looking at this right, we could possibly get a flukeable tie in the Third Round and be seeded in the Playoff as the draw is done the same days as the second leg, meaning we'll take the seeded position (if high enough, and the bigger CL teams don't fuck up). All if's and but's - although I thought they used to do the playoff draw AFTER the conclusion of the Third Round

     

    According to Bert Kassies site the dates are as follows:

     

    August 8, 2013 3rd qualifying round Europa League, 2nd leg

    August 9, 2013 draw for 4th qualifying round (play-off round) Europa League

     

     

    So there would be no carrying forward of seeding from 3rd round to the play off round.

  13. How come they seeded then ???

     

    They take Portugal's co-efficient, I think.

     

    Yeah, everybody gets 20% of their nations coefficient as a base then their own ranking added on top.

     

    Estoril have not been in Europe in years so only take Portugals base ranking. Due to really good performances by Porto and Benfica in recent seasons Portugals ranking is very high.

     

    5th overall in europe. Portugal have a ranking of 59.168, so any team has as a base ranking 59.168 * 20% = 11.833

  14. Latest list of probable seeds for round 3 - still another half dozen to be confirmed:

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    Of that list for the jaunt I'd have one of:

     

    - Club Brugge

    - FC Zürich

     

     

    For best chance of qualification probably:

     

    - Rosenborg BK (we pumped the last Norwegian side)

    - Omonia Nicosia (3rd/4th in Cypriot League with similar recent Euro record to ourselves)

     

     

    For best all round trip/chance the one team that stands out is:

     

    - Estoril Praia (Just outside Lisbon which is a great city, finished a distant 5th in the Portugese league, just promoted last season and no real pedegree in Europe)

  15. Just out of interest how did we end up seeded last time in the 3rd round? surely we should be round about the same area!

     

    The coefficient required for seeding in each round will vary a fair amount depending on which teams have qualified, last season the seeding was from 9.566 - 104.996, our coefficient is 7.038, which would be good enough some seasons but not this year it would seem.

     

    A few more lower ranked qualifiers from some leagues and we could have been in with a shout.

  16. Sorry HanoMaSano

     

    Draw for Round 1 and 2 on 24th June with ties on 18th and 25th July

     

    Draw for Round 3 on 19th July so seeding from round 2 IS carried over as Round 2 will not be completed before draw so seeding level will be highest seeded team. Only hope would be that the 3 high seeded teams in round 1 get knocked out or the team we get drawn against is an either or with the seed being knocked out.

     

    3 round 1 teams ranked higher than us (need all to be knocked out by minnows) 15 round 2 teams already ranked higher than us with possibly 7 more 13 Round 3 teams already ranked higher with possibly 2 more.

     

    With that scenario we are already 29th out of 58 and need none of the 9 unknown teams to be ranked higher than us . Therefore we will be Unseeded

     

    Ah, I do apologise, I never noticed that the draw for 3rd round was actually before the second leg of the 2nd round.

     

    In this case you are right and seedings would be carried forward from round 2 (but not round 1).

     

     

    What odds you think you would get on NONE of the 12 potential higher placed teams qualifying AND Rosenborg, MSK Zilina and CSKA Sofia all getting knocked out by total minnows in round 1, leaving Motherwell to scrape into 29th place and the very final seeding position in round 3! :thumbup:

  17. If we are in round 2 we will be somewhere between ranking 17 and 27 of the teams in that draw making us comfortably one of the top 40 seeds

    In round 3 there are at least 29 teams ranked ahead of us already which confirms we would be a non seeded team

     

     

    Not quite true, there are 31 teams just now who would be seeded above us (this could rise to 43 depending on leagues which are not yet finished).

     

    Only 13 teams that automatically qualify for round 3 are seeded above us (could rise to 16)

     

    But as the 3rd round draw is on a different date to rounds 1&2 there will be no "carrying over" of seedings for lower ranked teams who beat seeded teams in round 2.

     

     

     

    We could end up in a position where any 3 of the 18 higher ranked teams losing their round 2 tie could boost Motherwell into the seeded pot for round 3, not impossible.

     

    (In the worst case scenario we would need 14 out of 28 teams to lose their round 2 ties, closer to impossible)

  18. Pies this season have been rotten, definitely not Chapmans so something's happened and not been made public.

     

    Had one at the weekend and was pretty good.

     

    All the food under the last mob of contracters was barely edible, absolutely disgusting. IMO there has been a marked improvement over the past couple of seasons.

     

    The club did announce getting Chapmans back in. They may have changed suppliers since then I suppose, but the pies to these unsophisticated taste buds, have been pretty good.

  19. Did we not go back to Chapmans?

     

    Pretty sure we went back to Chapmans when the club took back the running of the pie stalls from the contracters who were running them before.

     

    Either way the pie's are definately better since then, and after early hickups everything seems better run that before too. Also the pie and drink meal deal for £3.70 is better value than you get at most SPL grounds, not amazing value, but decent.

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