Spiderpig

So based on that sumary of our chances you wont be bothering to go to the game as we have no chance..? Of the 4 teams we could have got, Panathinikos are probably rated 3rd in terms of ability etc so it was a good draw for us. We played well yesterday against a strong EPL team who i consider to be better than the Greeks so we have a chance, especially with the home leg 1st, keep a clean sheet and we have a great chance to get through. Winning this tie probably earns the club over a million pounds by guarenteeing another 8 games, so we need to believe it can be done.

I am going Prestwick - crete (Ryanair) then Crete - Athens (aegean) leaves Prestwick 06.55 Tues and in Athens at 18.30. Coming back on thurs Athens- London Heathrow (17.25 - 19.20) then BA back to Glasgow (21.00 - 22.20). All in £321 and no overly long waits at airports, and no stopovers required

The club charters are always dear..to be honest i think they try to recoup some of the official party and hangers on costs from the rest of the fans travelling. I hope thats not the case, you pay the premium for no hassle...all transfers..Glasgow to Athens direct etc. but is it worth around £300 extra i think not

Flights booked..bit of an adventure out Tues from Prestwick to Athens via Crete and then back Thurs,Athens-Heathrow-Glasgow but decent price at £321. Anybody recommend a decent hotel, preferably with other Well fans in it, central, near stadium etc

As a Motherwell fan these are the kind of games you want to be at....warm night,,champions league...and thousands of off their head greeks lobbing flares and smoke bombs...bring it on

Have the match dates as posted earlier been confirmed, ie 31/7 @19.45 and 8/8 @21.45 (greek time) ?

I need to get time off work sorted.. does anybody know if away leg is 7th or 8th August ?

Why ? Is there only 1 place on offer or do you think we wont finish 2nd or both ?

Good assessment....its between Motherwell, Dundee untd and Hearts for the Runners up and European places this season a 2nd appearance in the Champions league is up for grabs. I think Aberdeen may be the outside bet to improve on last season, the rest of the teams are also rans

Just found details of new flight servivce from Edinburgh to Kiev...prices are expensive but its an option http://www.flyuia.com/enews_landings/UK/en.html

Stiil involved in the champions league after christmas.... anything less this season will be dissapointing.

I am sure jennings was on a decent wage...use that cash to offer Faddy a short term deal

Scotish football will adapt and survive and be the better for it...no Rangers in spl for a few years means changes to voting structure...fairer split of what reduced cash if any there is..no more dominance and arogance of the ugly sisters. It up to fans of all the other clubs to stand up and be counted now...to prove we dont need the blue ugly and the shite they bring with them....steelmen forever

i will be going no matter where it is...this might be the only time i get to see Motherwell play in the champions league so not going to miss it..

Has the Fenerbache issue been resolved yet ? Brugge as a possible opponent would be a better option travel wise

Looks like Jenno is away to Coventry http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18781023

I still like the idea of all the ST holders paying at the gate for the games against club 12, with 1500 or 2000 ST holders it would be a tidy sum raised. Plus it would generate some positive publicity and show the fuds at the SFA / SPL that Scottish football can survive without the Govan tax dodgers.

In previous seasons they have managed to get tickets printed and sold in short turnaround times, so its not impossible, it just seems strange that they are selling them possibly a full month before the game. Still bought mine today though

Thats the complaint i have as well, biggest game in the clubs history and we might have a ticket with TBC as opponnents and date on it, Maybe they will not get the tickets printed and issued until they know which one of the 4 teams we are getting

There are dark forces at work here, the SPL are doing their best to get the Hunco into div 1 and back into the SPL as soon as they can. The cynical bit in me cant help thinking that the day after the story breaks about a re-construction deal being done, all of the SPL clubs are falling over themselves in declaring a "No" vote. The SFA need to chake charge of this nonsense and get them expelled from Scottish football for good. If this had been any other team outwith the ugly sisters they would have been killed off months ago.

Why not ? I think we should be taking a short term financial punt, we only need to get through 1 round to ensure another 6 group stage games (Europa League) and all the rewards that brings. Sometimes you need to speculate to accumulate, bring in a decent player on a good wage, and you might get the rewards, you wont win the raffle if you dont buy the ticket.

Is it just me or does anybody else think that the spl have done a deal to put the newco in div 1 and not div 3 where they should be...they are doing their best to get them back asap...its bollocks...The SFA need to take charge and get rid of them for good...we will be better off without the sh**e they bring to football

Excellent news... i hope all the other 10 clubs do the same....Just say no

The board are setting the pace and declaring their intention to vote No to the Newco

What happens if they dont come up with the cash ? do we get to play their youth team if we draw them ?