The Alexander/ O'Donnell debate has ran it course now. Regarding SOD I don't quite get a lot of the views but each to their own, definitely had a poor spell last season but I feel with right manager could flourish. As with all clubs you have players that take criticism and others can do no wrong, just my view but I feel that with Van Veen, yes scored lots of goals last season but also done plenty wrong and very selfish and lazy at times, but that is why he is with us and not at a higher level, but at same time when in the mood he is a huge asset. It's all part of being a well fan. COYW. PS. well that was full speech without one joke.......... Knock Knock...(who's there)........lol