ohwulliewullie
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I haven’t watched it back (and I won’t bother) but we were simply beaten by a much better team. As much as Celtic had other chances and Kelly had a few good saves, we were a bit unfortunate with the third (I think it was Sol who slipped / stumbled and would have easily cut out Abada’s cross) and the fourth (deflection could have gone anywhere). I personally didn’t see the players chucking it, although they may well have been knackered towards the end having chased shadows for most of the game. Cornelius was the example of this - ran himself into the ground. I’m fact, I thought the players kept plugging away… unlike the Rangers home game that was a shocker. Next couple of weeks will be a more realistic test of this team’s ability and character obviously
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4 hours ago, livivoice said:
Same source claims that GA wished to punt Watt last summer and that despite TW's greatly improved form their ' frosty' relationship ensured Watt's departure.
I heard that as well, even before the season started… so Watt’s great form might have been at least partly as a ‘get it up you, I’ll show you’.
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A just-about conceivable team could be: Kelly (Scotland), Mugabi (Uganda), Ojala (Finland), Solholm (Norway), McGinley (England), Nirennold (France), Donnelly (Northern Ireland), Slattery (England), Tierney (Republic of Ireland), Van Veen (Netherlands), Efford (USA)
Gone are the days of Wullie, Boaby and Tam fae Lanarkshire or Glasgow
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6 hours ago, The African said:
Bringing in a striker is an excellent idea. The problem will be finding one who, a) is currently available, b) is within our budget, c) wants to come to Fir Park and d) is not such a speculative punt with a less than fifty percent chance of coming off. I have no doubt that our management are looking, but I will also be understanding if they cannot find someone and we have to make do with what we currently have.
Is the last day of the transfer window not now officially called ‘Devante Cole loan day’?
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14 minutes ago, weeyin said:
Even better if they sell Calvin Ramsay by then. He's been one of their best players any time I've seen him play.
Even better still if Hedges is away as well… I always think he’s a very tidy player.
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Does anyone know what injuries o’hara and Lamie have, and how long they’re out for?
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15 minutes ago, Al B said:
Well, firstly they have been reporting it like that since the very beginning, way before vaccinations were around. Secondly we're up there with the most vaccinated countries there is, and lastly if that is their intention with it, they have completely undermined it by forcing vaccinated people to isolate and introducing restrictions across the board regardless of vaccination status. Anyone that has chosen not to be vaccinated isn't going to be encouraged by that...they are going to be saying whats the point in getting vaccinated if I still have to stay in the house?
I guess I was making the point that painting the worst case scenario… focusing on infections…. and imposing / trying to justify additional restrictions… may indeed have that effect. I heard something on the radio the other day (not sure the source) that in the current Omicron vaccine / booster push, 750K people in the UK had come forward for their first vaccination… which I felt was surprisingly very high (in a good way, as it’s in everyone’s interests as I said)
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1 hour ago, Al B said:
I can't wrap my head around why they are being so cagey about telling us how many people are being hospitalised by Covid, who would otherwise be at home completely fine with nothing wrong with them if they didn't have it. (Which is of course the number that everything should be based on)
If I had to take a stab in the dark, I’d suggest it’s to ‘encourage’ people to get vaccinated / boostered… which is in everyone’s interests… and if so, and it works… maybe the end justifies the means?!
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10 minutes ago, steelboy said:
Your fear isn't reason to put the football off though. That's a reason for you to stay in the house.
We are now 20 days into our Omicron wave and there has been no spike in serious illness. This matches data from South Africa, London and Denmark. It is undeniably far milder.
I used the word ‘fear’ more in the sense of concern for society in general, rather than feeling personally scared. If I could go to the football then I wouldn’t hesitate, and I’m going about my business as normally as I can (work / gym / etc), albeit I’m in pubs / restaurants less than pre-Covid.
As you say, given that we’re only 20 days into the current wave, in my opinion a wee bit of caution for a couple of more weeks say (to prove that the NHS can cope with what transpires) is OK.
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40 minutes ago, Al B said:
Well, it's not really. No-ones trying to stop the spread of Covid, you can't stop it in the same way you can't stop the spread of any of the other countless airborne respiratory infections. The end game is to minimise it's impact on health, and the evidence overwhelmingly shows that the vaccines have achieved that. Omicron scared everyone into assuming that an increase in cases would have a proportionate increase in serious illness and death and so they panicked, and then it turned out that.....wow, the vaccines actually did their job and their reaction was hugely inappropriate and uneccessary. The announcement of the withdrawal of PCR testing for asymptomatic positive LFT's shows that they are finally admitting that (whilst not actually admitting it).
If there isn't an unusual amount of serious illness or death from it, then it literally doesn't matter how many people have Covid. In fact the evidence that Omicron (a mild varient almost 100% dealt with by the vaccine), has all but killed out the Delta variant (that was more serious and did actually kill people), shows that the wide spread of Omicron is actually benificial in the overall big picture and is helping in the fight to suppress the pandemic completely.
In fact, you actually emphasise the point I'm making in the post above yours. If we take your 1 in 5 information and plug it in to my example, then we're looking at going from reporting 0 Covid deaths on 4th January, to reporting 1000 Covid deaths in March, even although there isn't. There's just a load more tests being done, and the criteria for a what is a Covid death is ridiculous.
I don’t agree with you, but I may eventually do so on a number of your points… but your perspective is well argued and I appreciate the fact that you’ve pointed out a few things that I previously hadn’t considered.
The reason for my caution is that I fear that the high number of cases will turn into a high number of deaths… as a result of the normal time lag between infection - hospitalisation - death (e.g. as more older people became infected during the festive period)… and the risk that the NHS is so under pressure that many people die (as a result of Covid or other causes) who would otherwise have survived with proper / timely care. This is the situation that the NHS faces now, or could do soon… the reasons for that / root causes probably matter less right now than what is actually done about it. For those reasons I’m OK at the moment for a more cautious approach that means there are more restrictions in place.
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4 minutes ago, steelboy said:
If Celtic are giving him to us very cheap then it probably makes sense to take him. I can't think why they would do that though.....
Slattery, Donnelly, Cornelius and Maguire all need games for various reasons and sticking a loanee who won't be here next season in the team ahead of them might hurt us long term. The guy should join the back of the queue.
I presume Celtic want to loan the guy out to get him more games than he otherwise would, with a view to seeing if he has a long-term future with them... and / or to put him in the shop window to off-load him more favourably in the summer. And I assume the fee / portion of his wages we're paying will be in line with our normal wage structure.
If he's better than what we've got (and / or gives us cover for injuries or Covid)... which helps us get Top 6 / Europe / further in the Cup... which then helps financially towards the long-term (even if he leaves in the summer)... then I'm happy for him to be at the front of the queue. The other possible benefit is that it may mean (say) Crawford could go out on loan (with someone else paying some of his wages) as we don't then need him to be around for cover.
Assuming the guy's decent - and people who know more about these things than me suggest he is - I'd say it's a good move.
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Players come and go, this is what happens. Most who leave I’m not too bothered about… there’s the odd one that I’m gutted to see go, but you wish them all the best (Campbell, Moult)… then there’s the occasional sore one (usually because of the timing / poor fee / where they’re going / how it happens (Hastie).
Watt is in the ‘sore one’ category for me. I don’t have anything against Dundee United particularly, although they’re clearly a rival for top 6 and maybe the European places.
I just thought Watt and MFC were a good match, and he’s been a very important player for us. I’m a bit gutted actually. But I’m now in the camp of do the best deal we can in January and get a replacement in, which isn’t going to be easy. Say min £100K plus £100K if they finish above us in the league.
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23 minutes ago, Big Wispy Flossy said:
KVV closely followed by SSJ
Exactly my thoughts
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Solholm and Mugabi solid, Cornelius energetic and a goal, but I go for Donnelly… strolled it in an effective performance in his first start for a while (if I remember correctly)
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3 minutes ago, Toxteth O'Grady said:
For what it's worth, The Sun reports that contract talks with Tony Watt have broken down
https://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/sport/football/8137217/tony-watt-quit-motherwell-contract/
What are the chances of a story like that coming out the day before a game with the ugly sisters?
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How important is Tony Watt to this team? Tonight was a perfect example of what he brings… goals… a bit of quality in general… ability to keep possession and usually pass it to people in the same colour jersey… wins fouls… and a phenomenal work rate to help the team defend from the front. What a guy.
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1 hour ago, C&A not the shop said:
See the Record are linking us to Mark Doyle from Drogheda United in January?
23 year old left winger that can also play anywhere across the front three....
Morecambe must be interested as well then
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Excellent all round, starting with being solid at the back. Mugabi and Shields excellent, but the stand-out (with brilliant interventions at both ends) was Ricki Lamie
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1 hour ago, JSR said:
Great performance from everyone first half especially, shields ran himself into the ground and mugabi and lammie were imense at the back.
COYW
Exactly my view as well
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It would be a nice touch to make a pre-match announcement on Saturday to acknowledge the part that Gordon, Souttar and O'Donnell played for Scotland on Monday night
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58 minutes ago, Big Stall said:
VAR would be excellent, I can't see it happening myself. The biggest losers from VAR would be both arse cheeks as the soft decisions they get would be lost.
I have an alternative theory on the impact VAR will have on this… I actually think it will help the gruesome twosome to get even more soft decisions in their favour than they already get… “that confirms there is contact in the box” or “that confirms it hit his hand”. I think it’ll actually make it easier for refs to give them such decisions. All it will rule out is the really obscene ones.
Example to illustrate my point: the Kipre penalty and sending off decision against Scott Sinclair in the League Cup final. If he doesn’t give the penalty he’d have to book Sinclair for diving. Even with VAR, I don’t think this would have happened. The decision would have stood, as is…. Even though we all know it was a dive -
1 hour ago, mfc said:
it'll absolute madness if we stick with 433 for this.
100% agree
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Surely we have to start playing four in midfield. As almost everyone has said, our current three are collectively not good enough, and / or the strikers are not working hard enough when we haven’t got the ball, to support the midfielders and make it harder for every opposition midfield to pass it round and through them.
I’d have O’Hara in for Woolery, which would also make delivery from set pieces generally better. I’d also possibly put KVV in for Shields (although I don’t think KVV is moving as well as he would be if he was 100% fit). I think Grimshaw is fine, if all he has to do is keep things simple, be energetic, close the opposition down, and play short passes to the nearest guy with a claret and amber jersey on. I also think McGinley is fine, as long as he’s given more protection from midfield than he got against Celtic, for example. Carroll is better going forward, McGinley is a better defender.In short, I think an extra man in midfield would solve a lot of issues in itself, even before you need to get into debates about who should be in the starting XI.
And I really hope Ojala went off as a precaution, as he’s been looking very solid.
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5 minutes ago, Ya Bezzer! said:
Shape or players? Bit of a chicken and the egg situation.
However our midfield has been absolutely garbage in every match I've seen this season. We've had 40% or less possession in 5 out of 9 matches this season and we've averaged 38% over all the matches.
I think we've been reasonable at the back, we've scored in most of our games, midfield is where the improvement needs to be.
I agree with you… although I think what I’m saying is that a change in shape to have four in midfield *I think* would give us more possession… help us get forward… support the front players (and reduce the number of crosses into our box at the other end for that matter)… create more chances…
In other words, to get out of the chicken and egg scenario…. Try changing the shape first - which is easier than changing the players. It might even make the midfield players look better as well.
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Yes, we’ve done this in a few games, and it certainly puts everyone on edge. I can see both sides of this though… you can either say we’ve got away with it (such as on Saturday) but Alexander can argue that it’s generally (always?) worked.
Having said that, in a cup game… if Aberdeen had scored at the death, we’d have had to make more subs in extra time to give us more attacking options to try to win the game… or defend and hang on for penalties… so I thought it especially risky in the Cup.