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So it was, as I say went back into the Shoe for a session So I'm a bit blurry on the details, quite a good atmosphere despite us ruining their party 05/05/1997 15:00 50059 inside the ground Edit: now was the 5th May a Sunday or was a Monday

in no way justification But what time was the kick off when we went to Ibrox in 1997 and Owen Coyle wrecked their title winning party, 2nd last game of the season I'm sure it was a Sunday of a Bank holiday weekend was it not? and I remember walking back into town for a sesh

Michael Fraser to continue with his shut out run Motherwell to run out 1 nil, Penalty for Forbes ( controversial to give the Sellik hordes another decision to add to their Referee dossier) Decorator to publish photoaes of 3 dozen jubilant 'Well fans oh and a couple of 'Wellboys to get chucked oot for holding up a Ross County picture

get the flag collection started edit:

aye apologies I've misinterpreted the rantings of the h**s i'm with, they also rage about the split having had to go to Pittodrie 3 times in a season and also Easter road from their memories but the general point of a 38 game league due to the split will never be a fair and proper competition the only way to change it is for the clubs themselves to act! we've definately been dealt a very harsh set this time, a harsh financial impact at that, but set that against survival when we were dealt a lucky hand on a few occasions. I'd much prefer a simple level playing field year in year out.

thats just Paranoia speaking Rickoza, its happened and as Scarecrow indicated its usually down to us and Aberdeen or the likes jumping in and out the top six, from colleagues I know Rangers have been to Pittordrie three times a season the change in six team messes up the fixtures year in year out but the real problem is the fact that with 38 games the league cannot possibly be a fair and proper competition, at the top or the bottom every teams supporters have had their grievances since 2001 the only guarantee is the two bigots will pay each other home n away twice, if they both finish in the same half.. and thats as much to do with civil obediance as football. But hey the member clubs ARE THE SPL so why has it not changed?

I agree we've got a terrible deal from the fixtures but you are suggesting Hearts are going to pick up 11 points more than us by saying we need 7 or 8 points for fifth I'd think 8 points would get us very close to fourth as long as we beat Hibs to get them 5 points should see fifth secured but its all down to the Hearts game, I'd say its now the biggest we have to face ( that'll all change week to week tho', this splits great for keeping it interesting )

You looking in Cambo? Its a farce that everybody puts up with every year

Yeah no doubt a couple of the dates will get tweaked: 17th April 24th April 1st May I'm going to visit relatives in Parkhead 5th May 9th May code] EDIT : no allowed to publish the games Celtic released their fixtures two games at parkhead to go for us

Yeah wth Hearts winning looks like they'll release the fixtures ASAP From the SPL:

Hope that Leeann has done the arithmetic and declared which result is most benificial for the club 3 points and only fifth place or a European spot ( and all the expense that comes with it offset against feelgood benefits) but I would reckon shake hands at start of game and give them a goal start

fuckin right there better be a backlash two defeats in a row after twelve unbeaten, we better step it up

Hearts were in the champions league spot for second

Reckon some people will already know them, just cant release them under the licence laws until its decided surprised ther have been no leaks, pretty sure Strathclydes finest will know the old firm date

whos gonna get the clip up from Soccer AM when they again rip the piss (state the obvious)

Well played Neil, and the others, Think we may have stumbled on the reason for the downturn in attendances I used to sit a couple rows behind her in section F, E92, forgot how bad it was until Llanelli when we were not far from her, A loyal fan she certainly is but how many has she turned away from that area her boy mustve sufferered from severe ear damage over the years always seemed a decent lad mind

Just seen this on the offcial site not connected to the sponsors night by the looks of it. still hope they get a turn out, nae idea what the association is about

I have heard the club are joining together with the supporters association for a POTY dance not sure if this is the appropriate thread, guess we'll just have to wait and see

Just the rumour mill gathering pace quite easy to get to Bayern from PSV hopefully with Craig and some more business acumen on board the club will realise they have to market their assets to get a better price for them and unless your Michael owen that means stories in the press in various countries generating public and club interest

he wasn't dropped and sold and he was never their second choice in the manner to which you refer he done well as their first choice keeper and earned his move to a bigger team so he didn't sign back on with ICT instead he signed a pre-contract with the bigger team ( thats us by the way!) after he had choosen to sign for the bigger team his manager chose another player over him and I'm a bit hazey on this bit but I reckon he was recalled to action for them

EDIT: no you Al_B I'll bite Would you really have wanted a nobody who isn't even a second choice for a regular team to be your number one? your argument holds no ground you've written off Fraser before he even gets a run, he had signed for us when he was dropped at ICT, before that he had been doing OK in a shit team but hey don't let that stop you , you fit in with all the other blinkered nuggets that don't quite grasp that you can't judge a player in a couple of matches. by all means when he gets a run and is good or bad, come online and praise or criticise but do him the common decency of giving him a chance

just out of interest, to whom do you refer , as another choice over Fraser when Ruddy is out?

You know so much about football, go on tell us all how much Ross Forbes has played for the first team in the last few months. Rocket

Motherwell fans in shock reaction to losing shocker they've done ok when Jutkiewicz has been out but we were winning so folk like you never notice

If it was only 4268 we're closer to the end than I thought, as out core support must be dropping drastically I know at least four extra in the East that wouldn't have been there, and the hundred or so from Calderbraes ( some Cooper turnstyle op's weren't allowing their guardians in with their tickets, so just the usual baws up there) and the seven or so in front of us in the East who had to get moved by stewards for a season ticket holder to get seated ( they seven prob not be back as the were furious)(( dare say the season ticket holder wasn't too happy either ))