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some numbers have been put to what other clubs have done: they fans, have stood up in the most dire of situations, I was disappointed the St-Mirren 10,000hrs model wasn't available, they pledged enough in monthly payments, to buy the club outright, before it was pulled from them. It's not for everyone off course, but the fact you spend the time on here and around the club, I'd say you were pretty committed, it surprises me that some still think , I'll not bother because of some flaws, everything about Scottish football has flaws, I'm keen that when things improve, I want MFC to be standing waiting but your point on £1.5 million from 3000 fans, your right it'll be tough, but any amount raised effectively is the clubs security net for tough times the switch to , longer term payment for membership say £25pm for a steel membership might bring another 600 members, £180k, so grows capital to around £600k that year, and at £4.17 pm thereafter would bring in around £6k a month if all contributed. add in 100 Claret members another £100k, and you have £700k, but importantly £7000 a month going to the right place, might be achievable in ten years? (EDIT ten years was my guesstimate, the club security fund, would be substantial long before that, if members continues to join, that estimate comes down with every contribution) I only see that as a benefit over the current plan, so I'm for it, if they can get the message out

I might have been sitting right next to you, but I struggle to understand how some key points can be lost between two members at the same meeting. I took notes through the first hour or so, and was just typing them up to share with the Steelmenonline society membership contributors, when you posted. I'm going to add some comments to your post, as what I took from the meeting, not as criticism of yourself but to show that whilst some points were taken similarly other were quite different, a measure of those talking or listening, I don't know? perhaps its just a reflection of how many times any individual sits through the meetings

numbers/accounts for last year presented and off the record non-audited numbers for this year presented Extensive list of what has been done in the year since Society board was elected and a review of what the situation at present is, and then an option to change the payments terms of membership recommended then agreement to reconsider a third option over a time limited period before the board then discussing the options with the wider membership, to choose path forward. my own opinion now: its clear that far too many of our support do not realise the critical situation at our club moving forward

and feed the trolls ?

Tonight at 7pm in the Cooper suite

eh no, I'm saying Id rather not have police and stewards piling into supports, as almost every week similar incidents occur, at grounds around the country, and we all know that, direct action by police, will lead to the smaller supports getting hit more often, and clubs getting billed when there is no real requirement for police in grounds. Im happy that the main culprits will get their dues, and that our club handled it correctly. to manage the impact on us, I don't really care what stewards or police could've done if the club doesn't want any action hopefully it puts an end to Friday night football, been a while since our directors were out lauding it as the next saviour plan Ps I also find it laughable that so many that praise our bois are so outraged by some of the minor offences such as standing and wandering into walkways and not taking assigned seats etc boooo, the sellik fans done it, call in the death squad, bollox if we want relaxed stewarding it goes for all, a group about double our support at Hamilton done about double the damage, pipe down, hopefully the idiots that smashed seats get their comeuppance, and Ive said before outside the ground should be dealt with

there was Fire in the Stand on Friday night, real flames and everything. previously some overheated switchgear/capacitors, led to some smoke which forced the shutdown of floodlights which led to a match abandonment no fire, nothing used to extinguish the invisible fire, just smoke and a story to justify abandoning a match. no need for the tabloid style sensationalism to jazz it up, Celtic ?Ultras? trashed the joint, their name is mud, their clubs own fans have turned on them, their club might actually do something about it now, policescotland will now have more justification to continue chapping doors in a safe controlled manner, stewards live on, to earn £30 quid or so another day, the match got finished and we don't have to suffer it again many wanting police to wade in, think about what your asking for, think how that affects our club, our leagues image on live TV and the costs forced on us to host all matches in the future, think about how it affects our traveling fans, like just the week before if that were a current tactic of Police Scotland it would have got quite messy, anything outside the ground should've been dealt with a civil disorder, hopefuly it will have. the Police were embarrassed by the events at Green street, no doubt it'll have been washed under the carpet as our clubs and well societys investigation will come to nothing. but you could see they employed different tactics the weeks after, but hey most of our fans want that tactic to be employed now,

pish

Sensationalist pish, no match has been abandoned for a fire in that stand

fucking moronic comment have you ever smashed a seat or a sign inside a football ground?

you've given me hope as I'm pretty sure you posted an almost identical moan last season about a run of home form

a fitness coach

actually not too bothered about losing to them, done well first half hour to hold them considering the gulf Really annoyed at the half hearted effort by a couple of players, when the quality is not there all we have is effort and too many are not putting it in whilst on the park. then there is the complete lack of structure and position at times, baffling, looks like they just are not drilling in the basics hope Nielsen isn't hurt bad East Stand group were outstanding

just watched this weeks pre match pressers, on facebook, and when they finish the link loops back automatically to last weeks pre-match press brief I've just about kept a lid on it all week, but that just pissed me right off #professional approach, just a fuckin soundbite obviously, how does that leave us, going forward? Was just about over Ibrox, when he abandoned the Euro-tie at Halftime and wasted the experience, St Johnstone was pathetic, could live with Aberdeen, but messing about in the most important game of the season, not even watching them, not starting strong then resting players, not even filling the bench? LD should be kicking his arse and he should be publicly acknowledging his part in the shambles, not be-moaning the lack of quality, Saturday was all about attitude and he set the tone

bring almost anything back for next season and get rid of the black training top that the players lounge about in when the games start

the first instance the temporary transfer has to run until the first day of the following registration period, rule 80 then allows: Division one, when mentioned in the SPFL rules is the top division or premiership

that holds the club administrators up in a shining light if true, not as if Scottish cup weekend was a surprise date in the calendar Even if no intention to use them, they should have been listed and pitch side in case they were needed, its an aside as you say but a real reflection of of how unprofessional or indeed arrogant we were terrible blow for him if it goes that way, and just another blow when the club is at a real low ebb

either then or a few weeks later , writing off the European tie and not even trying to win the game, gave the message that we don't need to fight and play as a team. we've been dealt some tough hands this season, but McCall and Black have not impressed at all, when dealing with it, but more worrying is the self inflicted damage with squad rotation and crazy positional selections. Ive said it all along, any player should have to play to claim a squad place, if your injured or tired or suspended you lose your place, if whoever steps in does as good a job they keep the place. McCall every season has been guilty of trying to shoehorn his favourites in over others who performed well, its worked for him as we've had better and fitter players who stepped back in, this season, his choices , have left all wondering , what the first team really is? and what the stand ins have to do to keep their place. yesterdays selection should have been good enough, if they were keen and motivated, but not having the players ready from the bench is an insult to the paying punters and the players left out. Un-professional? no, probably worse, just lazy , with a poor attitude and under prepared. EDIT: and this is so true it hurts,

Probably put us in to a very bad result for the financial year, Likely call on Well Society funds that are depleting with out enough replenishment Cash loss in European football, horsed out the league cup with almost no cash income, horsed out Scottish cup, likely fine or damage costs, loss of key commercial income in run up to festive season. I'd say this result is pivotal to putting us back a year or two in real terms

Wow, this one should get an award

The club have opened up a raffle, £5 a ticket, which gets you a place in the draw, to win, Hospitality, as full match sponsor, allowing you, up to 20 people, pre-match bar, 4 course meals, half time refreshments, post match 1hour bar, choose and present MOTM and get MFC gifts, at the game on January 1st 2014 vs St Johnstone Tickets on sale, at the online purchase option here: http://www.motherwellbuyonline.co.uk/products/the-great-big-new-year-raffle-prize-for-you-and-your-friends-kick-off-2014-in-style-win-the-chance-to-be-our-match-day-sponsor worth a punt? I reckon so...... Official blurb:

Highlights up, http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/scotland/25079439#asset pleasing performances from a few who have been distracted of late

just in case anyone looking in and cant see shout box, FT 0-2 Sutton then Anier sealing it on 88mins

wonder what if any increased revenue makes that decision? sounds like we've accepted 3000 tickets, so Cliftonhill it would have been a sell out 1200 @ £15? around £18000 new Douglas park, what around 3500? at max £15? more likely average around £11-12, £42000 wonder what it costs to hire a stadium and host a match with the bigger crowd and unknown facilities.... then they get to split profit, after charges, with us maybe £5-6k per club? maybe get some hospitality profits, but as rough as calculation as it is, shows where the game is for many clubs on a financial edge lets hope more than 2666.67 turn up

Minutes silence before todays kick off. looking forward to seeing some of the boys come back in for some match time