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Entertainment - The Saviour Of Scottish Football
Andy_P replied to joewarkfanclub's topic in Club Chat
I genuinely don't think that the standard of football plays a particularly huge bearing in people's decision on whether to go to a game or not. I think people will go primarily because they support the team obviously but factors such as the importance of the fixture, the attractiveness of the ticket price and the scheduling of the game are all considerations I think folk outwith the core support would make before deciding to go on the basis of the style of football being played. -
I know what you are getting at but you can you really claim it to be the most effective front line all season given that none of the front line actually scored today, nor in fact did anyone in the team? I'd certainly say on today's evidence the Murphy-Ojamaa partnership is one that is worthy of exploring further to give us a different option when the occasion demands it. But most-effective front line all season is getting a little bit carried away I think.
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Based on that I've updated the topic title to make it a bit more visible.
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Whenever they've just completed GSTQ and appluaded themselves for being good little h**s we pipe up with Vera Lynn's wartime song We'll Meet Again and wave them off into the sunset. As in... We'll meet again Don't know where Don't know when But I know we'll meet again Some sunny day..... I vaguely remember in my youth that being the song of choice to mock teams about to be relegated!
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The short answer as I understand it, is that it costs the club money. If fans invade the pitch they get fined. If it happens again, they increase the severity, if you do it again, the fine gets larger still and so on....
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Even assuming you do feel there's something in the suggestion about Ojamaa surely there's a time and a place for it? Minutes after your club has secured has secured Champions League football on what could be a once in a lifetime occasion, surely can't be that time?!?!?!
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They tweeted something yesterday, a reminder along the lines of if you are buying on the night remember there no concessions, which implied that there would be the option of a PATG or at least being able to buy a ticket through there.
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Hopefully this will prove to be the defining afternoon. Dundee Utd and their supporters will surely be pretty sick tonight. From being a just a few minutes away from third place and the pressure that could have transferred to us, to a couple of hours later finding themselves 5 points behind with an Old Firm double header to come. I mentioned last week that it could be significant that we play on Tuesday and they on Wednesday night. It's certainly not going to be easy on Tuesday night at Tynecastle but if we could set Utd the task of knowing they have to go to Ibrox knowing that only a win will do to keep them in it, with Celtic to follow, could be a psychological bridge too far before they even set foot on the park. But first things first Tynecastle and review from there.
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That's excellent. I must admit having never really been involved in actually playing the game it's not something that really appeals to me personally, but it's clearly a massive thrill for those who do to be able don the claret and amber and play on Fir Park. What a cracking amount raised. A real win-win situation for the folk who got the places and youth development.
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Season Ticket info now up on the official I see. Seems broadly in line with last season for the East Stand - up a tenner possibly on the early bird price is it? EDIT: Having now read the Chief Exec's bit I see the prizes are frozen. MFC Season Tickets 2012/13 Pleased that the 4 x payments without any extra interest added is an option again this season. That really worked a treat for me personally last season.
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Ahh!! Perhaps his lesiurely strolling about the park on Sunday was an effort to prepare himself for the pace of the game in Caribbean in high summer.... But seriously, always good to see 'Well players getting international recognition.
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There was certainly a tweet by Flow a couple of weeks ago that Season Ticket packages were close to being finalised. On Sunday however a mate suggested he'd called Fir Park and was told things were delayed as a result of the uncertainty over Rangers. If that's the case it would kind of make sense as I suppose the club may have something of a quandry at what prices they should pitch season ticket and admission prices if Rangers began life next season in Division Three. Do they bump up the prices to compensate from the loss of potentially two Rangers visits? Should they reduce them because the fixture card now has one, potentially two "premium" game less? And that's not to mention the potential variables that might come to play - such as threats of fans chucking the SPL - if Rangers newco are allowed straight back in. Bit of an awkward one for the club I think.
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Whenever Celtic fans bring up racism I can't help but remember the friendly welcome they gave Mark Walters on his debut in Scottish football way back when. Or does throwing bananas at a black guy constitute some kind of charitable act down Parkhead way?
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Their will be varying degrees of pressure across all the three sides for the remainder of the season and the timing of the fixtures will have a bearing on that. Dundee Utd have the opportunity to crank it up on us and Saints with their game kicking off at 1230 on Saturday but with that will come a level of expectation from their supporters that they will be in 3rd place by 3 o'clock. The outcome of that will surely have to have some impact on our game a short while later. Ludicrous as it may sound if Utd bottle it against Hearts and we get three points against St Johnstone there's a scenario with us playing the night before that could see us 9 points ahead with them having to go to Ibrox. With three games left that would be pressure. Now I can't see them losing to Hearts and us getting six from six but it illustrates the potential for pressure to pushed back and forth. At the moment though I await Saturday with a mixture of anticipation and apprehension. It's pretty much last chance saloon for St Johnstone. How that will affect their strategy I don't know. First game here I thought dire as we were, they were superb on the break. Last time it was a bit more toe-to-toe. Knowing they need to win I can't see them sitting back and trying to catch us on the break. As for us? Time for the team to step up to the plate really. The bit is getting to the bit.
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Very very deflating in the end. The longer the game went on the more quietly confident I was feeling. We looked fairly solid at the back and had bags of possession. When the ineffectual Daley was replaced with Ojamaa it seemed we were about to add a bit of attacking edge to what was a sound platform, so for it all to fall apart in the last half an hour feels like a right boot in the chuckies. There was never three goals in it, but for all our possession when it boiled down to it when it came to the final third we were lightweight and they took their chances. But it's gone. Bigger fish to fry now beginning with St Johnstone on Saturday.
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I think you could debate the rights and wrongs of how we came to be in the position we were, and who was responsible for that for hours, but when all's said and done having gone through the process, terrible experience though it was, it's an experience that has shaped and will positively influence how the club operates for years to come. In terms of the article itself I see a mixture of truths, half-truths and attempts at re-painting history. It's absolutely laughable for example for Nevin to absolve himself of blame. It's a bit like a pilot plotting course into a mountain but saying since he handed over control before the plane crashed it was nothing to do with him. Nevin knew perfectly well the role that John Boyle wanted to bring him to Motherwell for and no attempts to play down the importance of his position within the club with language that suggests a casual detached involvement will change that. Boyle admitted he was near clueless about the how to run a football club at the start and put his trust in his friend to guide him. Don't forget that Motherwell actually had to pay something like £70,000 to Kilmarnock for Boyle to bring him to the club. Did really think we were paying that for a 35 year old just for him to come and play and football? I certain recall reports at the time that Nevin wanted to stay and avoid going into administration. But I also recall that his solution was for Boyle to continue to throw money at the problem. I guess that's fine when it's someone else's dosh you are playing with and not your own then! In my eyes no matter what kind of picture he has tried to portray publicly over the last decade or what he tells himself to suppress any notion of guilt - Nevin was and remains partly culpable for the club going into administration.
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Does that U20 league start next season? If it does it might allow McCall, if he chooses to do so, to look a little more long term or allow him to hedge his bets when it comes to the central defence. I don't know what his thinking is but it could allow him to keep the status quo and see how things look this time next year if likes of Page and this years U19 defensive pairing have come on, whilst still retaining the experienced core. For me though I'd say there's a decision to made sooner or later to between Crags, Page and the 19's guys. There's a balance to be struck between being well covered and blocking the path of up and coming youngsters. If everyone's fit there's going to be quite a few defenders standing behind that dugout.
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It's a difficult one to predict, unless you're Rickoza or MJC ofcourse! But no, I'm not quite sure what we'll be facing. I really thought a couple of weeks back if we could get our noses in front against Rangers that such was our motivation set against what little they had to play for, a result would be ours for the taking. Didn't quite pan out and they gave as good as they got before stealing it at the death. There's a little of that next weekend too. Celtic have won the league, there's no longer a Cup final place for their squad of about 60 to fight for and they'll only really have the last Old Firm game on their radar. So there *shouldn't* be the anything more than professional pride for them to play for. Ofcourse I'm also fairly certain that there will attempts to derive additional motivation from their support, no doubt having been sufficiently whipped up into a frenzy by their manager and club hierarchy over the course of the next seven days about everybody and their dug at SFA still out to get them. I guess, as I suppose you could say about every game, that it has to be a case of us performing to our maximum on and off the park and seeing where it takes us on the day.
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All this chat about what Motherwell should or should not do but aren't we forgetting they have a game before they come to Fir Park? Should the onus not be on Hearts for anys Guard of Honour seeing as today's their first game after their "glorious" triumph? Different competition you might suggest but then we applauded Killie on to the park at an SPL game for winning an SFL competition. Bugger all to do with us any more. The moment for their Guard of Honour will have passed by next weekend. Let's just concentrate on pumping the fuckers on the park!