Yoshi-1991

I dont think anyone's going to judge a club for sacking a manager that's not won in 15 games. If there is any judgment its going to be on why it took so long.

We can only dream of mediocre at the moment.

Every week we say "need a result here or he goes" then the game passes without a win and nothing changes, so aye he needs to beat Livi or else he will need to win the next game, or the next one, or the next one...

What you doing? We are already depressed as fuck. Play the game son.

Can we hire Jim Gannon for January then sack him in February?

Honestly forgot what winning a game actually feels like at this point.

I dont disagree but at the same time I cant remember a time where it's been as bad as this. Not a single home grown player in the starting line up is a rare thing for Motherwell.

It's not just our recruitment, even our youth development has produced near fuck all for the last few years. The full place is a riot.

We could get done 10-0 here and they wouldn't sack him.

This is going to end up a drubbing

Wish I could say I was shocked.

Penalty Rangers!

I know you think you are arguing against me but you are just kind of embellishing my point. As you say they are paying big bucks for bang average which leaves us with the less than average. You don't even need to go that far back, look at our squad from even just 10 year ago compared to now and you can see how drastically the quality of what we can afford has dropped off.

I dont disagree but he's not the only one.

I would say the fact we can't financially compete for players with league 2 teams tells you he's probably not far off the mark.

Hes not wrong. The standard is dramatically dropping off in Scotland and we have been left in the dust, not just by the likes of the English system, but by others that are the same size as our own. We have under sold ourselves for so long that we are now worth near fuck all. Not only that but as has been recently talked about when the Wrexham owners had a look up here, there's not a lot appealing to invest in when the ceiling is where it is for scottish teams. It's bleak.

I didnt say we wouldn't, but the last 14 results would point toward it being a possibility.

I would say the squad we have now is far worse than the one we had in early Feb. The signings Kettlewell has made gives me zero faith he is going to fair much better in the January window and if we were to replace him in Feb then whoever we bring in will be stuck with this dross. Also, our shite run of form started earlier this time round and if we left this to run into February we are truely fucked.

Pretty much resigned myself to the fact we are going down. Kettlewell somehow satisfying the board enough to keep his job yet at the same time leading us to the bottom. The time to replace him is slowly passing us by to the point where it won't matter.

When we defend well we canny score, when we score we canny defend.

Talked about in passing in other threads but I think it's needing its own place for discussion. What exactly is going on at the top end of the club? I'm not a society member so maybe not privy to some of the inside info but from what I, and many others can see there is clearly something wrong. Why is it taking so long to replace Burrows? Why has there been practically radio silence from the club in general outside of playing/ coaching staff for near on a year?

Just watched his post match, its all making sense now, he's prepped them to play St Mirren no St Johnstone.

I fail to see what good sticking with him could possibly do. In all my time watching the football I've never known a manager to turn around this kind of run. Even some of our best managers in recent times couldn't fix a spiral of form that on reflection wasn't even as bad as this one.

When you see it like that it's downright disturbing that he's still in a job.

This is it really. Can't help but think back to when Burrows left and we were wondering if he was escaping a sinking ship while he could. The place is a fucking shambles.