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"We are all Stuart McCall.........."

Not my recollection of the game at all. We played some very nice football on the night and were schooled on the importance of being clinical and taking your chances.

What games have they picked for tv? 😉

Not the best draw we could have had, but not the worst either. Rather play on grass than away to Killie or Livvy and the journey to Ross County is never enjoyable. Short travel distance should ensure a decent away support and the extra spice of all the ex Motherwell connections. Hopefully Obika is fit and we can see whether he or Mandron is the better player. A perfectly winnable tie for either side.

Without knowing the real ins and outs of youth development and with having no experience or knowledge of it whatsoever, it appears to me as an outsider that the development of youth players at national level is skewed towards producing the best elite players for the national team. While it looks like we are having some success in this regard with the first Project Brave graduates now featuring for the national team and enhancing our chances of qualifying for tournaments, the pathway for those that are late developers or not at elite level seems less clear. Probably deserves a topic on its own, given the importance of the debate to our game.........

I meant in respect of winning the group and seedings. But, yes, the 2nd place teams certainly have a beef. And of course its Inverness they play not Raith. My bad.......

This is absolutely the way forward for our club and any other fan owned club for that matter. It will take SK a few windows to get us there as he tidies up the contracts situation and assesses who is ready for the step up. It will be a gradual process and one he will have to manage carefully, because he needs to keep his job in the meantime. But hopefully we will start to see the benefit of the strategy as we go along.

So glad we didnt take the risk on him. No place for dewey eyed sentiment in football.......

The time added on, or not in this case, requires an answer for all the reasons discussed above. It hasnt adversely effected us on this occasion, but it could in the future. The authorities shouldnt be allowed to gloss over that. Also, why is the Dundee v Raith game being allowed to be played today? Again its not effecting things on this occasion, but it could have provided one of those sides with a sporting advantage by knowing exactly what they need to do to qualify/be seeded. I know Viaplay will have an input, but its generally accepted in other competitions that it cant happen.

Given this outlook, your negativity surrounding the club generally is surprising. Its not too disimilar than my outlook, which is why, Im usually philisophical with my expectations. Is your negative outlook purely self protection based on previous experience? Honest question.........

Glad to hear he looked sharper. He has the pedigree to be a good player for us if he can get the fitness.

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Thought it was a strange looking team selection to begin with. But when you look at SODs and Obika being unfit to start, its not actually that surprising. McGinn is currently our 2nd choice RWB, so had to start there. So you have to replace him in the centre so Mugabi is the preferred choice there. Obika being out means either you play young Ferrie or push Spittal up. I would suggest Spittal is the least risky option in a must win game. Paton is our back up midfielder so he plays and Slattery is pushed up into Spittals role. Obviously Oxborough instead of Kelly is unforced, but again not a surprise to give him a run out in case Kelly gets injured at some point and we need him. Given that we are 2 up at half time and cruising, I think we need to give the manager the benefit of the doubt again. He might just know what he is doing.......

Good spot. I hadnt noticed that.

From SKs presser he sounded like fitness has a bit to go so probably wont start but should feature from the bench.

Wilkinson and Ferrie up front should be fine. In that situation Wilkinson is the hold up player and Ferrie the foil. As long as we get support from Spittal and Slattery getting into the box we should still have enough to get the job done. We just need to keep the door shut at the back. It was failing to do that, that killed us at QoS.

I presume its because Viaplay have paid for the rights and wont allow the club to broadcast them. Its been the same for most of our games since last season. Only the exiles get to see livestream as they are outwith the licensing agreement. The rest of us have to make do with audio. Its a bit shit, but not a lot the club can do about it as they dont negotiate the contract.

I agree. The tone came across very much that Joe just doesnt fancy it. I think he always had a year left on his deal. I dont remember him getting an extension. Sheilds got game time in Holland and he is away Fits very much with SK's "They are our contracted players and I will continue to work with them" attitude. Until of course they are not our players. He also dropped hints that certain players didnt fit his style of play. Given his apparent preference for 3-5-2 you would struggle to see where Efford fits into that. Whether thats the case or not and whether thats linked to this latest "injury" is obviously pure speculation, but it passes the time! 😉

Absolutely loved Kellys reponse there. "Ah love playing fitba mate. I'll get a break when am finished" Brilliant! 😆😆😆

Its not just you. SK picks his words carefully. Maybe Efford is one of those players who has been told he isnt going to feature much.

I was as excited as anyone when we got McKinstry back on loan. I felt it was a bit of a coup for us and a chance, that had been denied us, to see a player who we had developed and was touted as having a lot of talent. The reality was a bit underwhelming. The boy did okay and showed flashes of ability, but he was nowhere near the player I thought he might be. He did get unlucky with the change of manager, but there was a reason SK went for Spittal ahead of McKinstry and hasnt looked to get him back after his contract at Leeds expired.

I would expect a full strength team as close to the Dundee starting 11 as SK can get. Hope to get the job done early and start to give other players minutes around the 60 minute mark. At least 1 more new face in the door by then (thats me speculating, not ITK!) 4-0 Motherwell, Obika hat trick (he will obviously need about 10 chances and at least one of them will be off his arse.)

Very interesting to hear him say a minimum of 3. I presume that must be off the back of how successful he has been getting bodies out the door. Thats good news as he will obviously have his targets in mind and he must think they are better the the players he has moved on. Fingers crossed he is right!

Fair enough. Cant really argue with that. I tend to take what SK says with a pinch of salt though. I personally think he uses very clever language at times to cover for the fact that he doesnt rate a player, or there maybe a problem with that player that he doesnt want to go public with until he gets another club to take them from us. He cant exactly say, "I dont fancy Danzaki cause he is shite and way below the fitness levels I expect from a professional athlete" and expect other clubs to take them off our hands. He has been very good at getting a lot of the deadwood off our books. Lets see if he is as good at bringing in players better than the ones he let go.

Im sensing a bit of negativity from you towards the manager and how this window is going, which is generally not like you. Whats he done or not done that is irking you?