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I get your point - completely. I just don't think abuse on any level is acceptable. People are human and sometimes there will be a tipping point - and the tipping point for one person might be different for someone else. I'm also very sorry that our club is getting a kicking - but that's on the board who put that statement out I've been going to games since 1979 so I do know the abuse other managers took

I don't think that matters. Just because other managers had more abuse doesn't make it OK that this has happened. The issue is with the people dishing it out in my view. Not the folk on the receiving end

I've seen people elsewhere on social media say they witnessed abuse that was directed at him at the last two away games I've also seen players get abuse at home games - so if they get abuse - why wouldn't Kettlewell?

Agree

We are getting the reaction because the manager has come out and said that's why he's left - when others didn't. I think so anyway.

Other people have said on here over the last couple of days that that's not accurate. There were issues with him and Alexander but why does that have to be SODs fault?

I agree with you on all of these points. But some fans are saying he wasn't abused at all (particularly on Facebook). When other fans are saying they witnessed it. I was stunned by the society statement tbh - I personally don't need to be told how to conduct myself at a football match. If the club had said in the first place that it was a section of fans acting like this - it would have been more appropriate - and accurate

I agree with that too and I've said it more than once on social media. Not just on the manager - players need to take accountability too

Don't think so tbh. Think it's pretty odds on we would struggle to beat them either way

Pretty balanced take on things in not the old firm by Blair Meikle. Im rubbish at posting links when I'm on my phone but if you Google not the old firm Stuart Kettlewell it will take you to the article

I think all of this could have been handled better but I don't think it's necessarily bullshit. Some people who were at both St Johnstone games have said there was a lot of abuse directed at him and players from a small section of our support - not just booing. The issue is that all fans are now being judged in the same way. I also think the reaction to that interview was a bit over the top - even if I was really annoyed by what he said - I still wouldn't go to a game and scream and shout at him or anyone else - fans who've done that have made their choice to do it. I completely understand your points - I'm pretty sure Kettlewell knows the entire fan base wasn't against him - it just seems that the statement was rushed out and the board haven't considered what the backlash would be against the wider fan base. The well society also sent an email out saying they were sorry to lose the manager in the circumstances and said something about reflecting on the impact robust challenges can have. I wasn't really sure what to think when I read that tbh.

Lennon gets touted every time we need a manager for some reason.

You're right in the respect that it's unfair that all Motherwell fans are under the microscope - but, there have been fans posting saying that the abuse that Kettlewell got (players too) from a small section of fans at the St Johnstone games was pretty toxic. Someone posted on Facebook saying that he had been wrongly accused of sitting screaming abuse at Kettlewell for the duration of the match (because he looked like someone who did). I think people reading this stuff should realise that if he's had abuse - it's been from a small section of fans. (not saying that's acceptable either).

I've seen Duncan Fergusons name suggested. I'll get back to that one once I've stopped crying that Ketts has gone

The well society seem to be backing the statement given the email they sent out tonight. Although I get they are just trying to say that abuse of any form isn't on

For me it's too early to say at this point. Not Rhys McCabe though. Or Scott Brown - or Martindale. Airdrie are tenth in the championship - sorry but McCabe is a no from me.

Maybe - but I think the narrative has been lately that he's lost the entire fan base - that's clearly not the case

I agree. I would have liked to see him given till the summer too Im really sorry that it's ended like this

Some people on Facebook said that there was personal abuse (swearing etc) last Saturday - directed mainly at Stuart and Andy Halliday for some reason

The Motherwell facebook page is full of hundreds of fans saying how sorry they are he's gone - that's not someone who lost the entire support in my view. Anyway onwards and upwards. Nothing else for it

Him criticising fans though wasn't going to lead to the entire support turning their back on him surely - because there are sections of our fans who have had nothing good to say about him since the day he was appointed - fans can criticise him but he can say nothing back?. I think thats a bit odd. Particularly because he gave that interview after a section of our fans were shouting abuse at him after the cup game I also think there are too many sweeping generalisations about him losing the fans and fans turning their back on him - the Motherwell fc facebook page tonight is full of people saying sorry he's gone - so clearly the entire support wasn't against him Edited to say I'm talking in general

A suspension doesn't mean he's abused someone - someone on here who sits near him at Fir Park said that they never heard him abusing officials - I'm sure they said he was no different from last season when he wasn't being carded - am sure some people felt he was being targeted because he criticised referees

There's no evidence that Stuart Kettlewell abused officials - people who sat near him said otherwise - people can slate him for many things but let's not make things up as we go along -and there are plenty people who are sorry he's gone - the Motherwell facebook page is full of people saying they are sorry.

I'm going to start a go fund me for the therapy I'm going to need now - or a lot of wine - or both

You're right - it doesn't