Well-Made
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FAO Ewan!
I just want you to know I think your a complete legend matey!
I just can't think of anyone else who talks complete and utter shiyte quite as much as you do.
Peace and love.
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And gets paid to do it!!
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Just a shame he's not being able to get more reserve games under his belt as I'd think he'd have been a certainty for Saturday if he had.
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Our USH was only installed 2 seasons ago El Grew.
Pictures of it's installation have been on the main site and have been on previous threads.
That was supposed to be to do something with the drainage and install a new system as the last one didn't work properly either.
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Point I was making is his money grabbing antics led to him leaving us for a team that has just been relegated.
The thing is though when he left for them they hadn't been relegated. It was still between them and us for going down.
He left, they went down, we stayed up and the best bit of all was the hammering Hibs got of us during that transition period. That helped us stay up.
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Gotta love Buzz.
He's in the Express today wondering how Celtic can complain about the pitch. He's adamant if it hadn't been for the pitch, he had the shot covered from Skippy when he scored.
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Dave, thought this was a great idea, until I read this article by Pat Nevin in the Times Online this morning.
Pat Nevin advises Motherwell to seek new ground over surface problems
Phil Gordon div#related-article-links p a, div#related-article-links p a:visited {color:#06c;}Pat Nevin believes that the only solution to the Fir Park pitch problem is for Motherwell to pull the plug on their sodden surface, sell up and build a new ground somewhere else.The former Motherwell player and chief executive was horrified by the state of his old workplace when the sight of its barren turf was screened to millions of viewers around Britain on Sunday in the live television game with Celtic. However, he has sympathy and feels that no amount of money will cure the problem.
Nevin revealed yesterday that the Lanarkshire club spent hundreds of thousands of pounds consulting specialised agronomists about the state of the Fir Park pitch when he was chief executive between 1999 and 2002. The end result was: Fir Park 1, Science 0.
The soil experts were beaten every time by the unique set of circumstances that conspire against Fir Park, which mean that there is no way the former Scotland winger would be dancing around full backs if he was still plying his trade today.
The bottom line is that the water table in that part of Motherwell is above the level of the pitch, so every time it rains, the surface will flood. Because the drainage system is so “ancient”, rainwater will never seep away and, just to add insult to injury, the turf has the wrong type of sand in the worst-affected area, which prevents water being absorbed.
Nevin said the specialists believe that Motherwell would need to dig down 40 feet deep to put in new drains, and even then there is no guarantee of success, so moving to a new site would be best.
“There is not a specialist a round who can fix this,” a sympathetic Nevin said yesterday. “We spent a lot of time, money and effort when I was at Motherwell. We listened to every agronomist, did everything they asked and got nowhere. To fix the problem, you are probably talking about millions.”
Nevin explained that the real problem is Fir Park’s location. “The part of the pitch where it occurs is infamous to anyone who has been at the club. The agronomists also told us that the pitch cannot sustain the right level of root for grass to flourish.
“The real problem, though is the drainage. I was told we would have to go down 40 feet to get new drains to cope. But you cannot do anything about the water table. You would have to start with completely new grass, and soilbase, and the club has done all that.”
Motherwell were fined £20,000 by the Scottish Premier League recently for the late call-off of their fixture with Heart of Midlothian in December when the undersoil heating failed. They are scrutiny from the SPL because of Fir Park’s dreadful track record last season, when the ground was rented by Gretna and flooding in January and February forced numerous postponements of Motherwell and Gretna home fixtures. “Motherwell have spent huge amounts in recent seasons, relaying the turf and putting in drains,” Nevin said. “They also have to attend to the issue of undersoil heating. I feel really sorry for them and the stick they have been taking is a bit harsh without people knowing the full story. They have brought in specialists and they have all failed Motherwell.”
Nevin quit Fir Park in April 2002 when the club went into administration but retains his affection. “I don’t know if the amount of money that was spent on equipment and pitch maintenance in my time as chief executive was still continued after administration,” he said. “The pitch obviously took a real hammering when Gretna were renting the ground last season. Having two teams on it has seriously affected the surface. It never got a rest.
“If there was answer, we would have certainly done that in my time at the club. However, if it is cheaper to build a stadium somewhere else, like St Mirren have done, maybe that’s something that has to be considered.”
We could end up having to contribute something every season just to keep the pitch okay.
Looks like another reason to move. Especially if there is a lot of money spent on it every year as well as the stands.
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I thought ALL the lads played their part today.
You could dissect the game and the players. I mean if we'd lost how many would've been on here laying the blame at Crags feet?
To have come back from that showed the fight and spirit we've been looking for the last few weeks.
The delight on Quinn's face when he scored summed the result up today.
We were up against 3 strikers who last year tore defences to pieces and we only allowed them one goal that coming courtesy of our pitch if the reports are to believed.
O'Brien's running was immense and caused them all sorts of problems, just a shame we couldn't get players onto the end of some the final passes he made.
Happy with the result, the performance and the players today.
As I said though we'd probably all be singing from a different hymn sheet tonight if it had finished 1-0.
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Once again it showed today why we shouldn't have to move from the DC. The stand was about half empty. Even the South stand had large areas of free space.
Time to rethink this Mr Boyle now!! Otherwise we may just tell you where to stick it if it gets to the point that stand is nearly empty and all of a sudden our money is more important than the the Old Firms.
As things stand it looks like you may have to put your hand into your own pocket to do the work that's required this summer as the Old Firm fans ain't going to be paying for it.
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I was going to start a new thread but this probably relates to this thread more relevantlly.
The Sunday HeraldAll perspectives welcomeTHE GAFFER: Mark McGhee
I HAVE always tried to communicate with the supporters of all the clubs I have managed. Through programme notes or through the media I try to give out information about team affairs, what I am thinking and why I make certain decisions.
People often say the most important relationship for a manager is with his chairman but I would suggest that the one between a manager and the supporters is even more crucial. Chairmen hire managers but supporters fire them.
Since I became a manager at Reading in 1990 I have tried cultivating a relationship with the fans of each club I have managed. I recognise that it is the supporters that I ultimately answer to, and I try to remember what it was like for me as a teenager before I became a professional player, when I was a Celtic supporter.
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Because I played school and club football at weekends I only really got to watch them in midweek games. These were mostly European Cup matches and they mostly won. There was not a lot to criticise.Was the attitude of supporters the same then as it is now? All clubs' supporters have their favourite players and others who never seem to be able to do anything right. That has always been the case. Colleagues in the game regularly insist I am wasting my time trying to get my message across but I disagree. I have great respect for fans' knowledge of the game and feel obliged to speak to them. A lot of managers allow their press officers to write their programme notes. I never would.
The balance between dialogue and criticism is a difficult and dangerous one. No manager can afford to alienate the supporters by being critical of them but at the same time he may feel he has to appeal to them or to tell them of concerns that he may have. In doing this he has to be tactful.
If a manager's relationship with the supporters is strong and healthy then they should be able to talk to each other without fear of causing offence. When the relationship is dodgy, people will use any comments that the manager may make as an excuse to get at him.
At Motherwell, I have had superb backing from the supporters and they know me well enough by now to expect me to have something to say about any issue that concerns Motherwell Football Club. They know that I represent their interests and they know that I will fight their corner. Because I feel that I have a good understanding with our fans I am able to talk more directly to them than some other managers can.
How our utterances are reported is important and as a manager you have to be aware of how meaning and context can be easily corrupted and cause embarrassment. Earlier in the season I made a decision that apparently infuriated a small section of our support. When I was questioned about it I said "I don't give a monkey's". I said this because I was taken by surprise by the question and I let my guard down. Although I still stand by the offending decision it was not true that I "did not give a monkey's". Of course I cared what they thought and why they thought it but in saying it as I did, I exposed myself to the anger of some who have no real interest in Motherwell Football Club and who tried to take the opportunity to cause divisions.
Now multiply my concerns and my finely tuned sense of diplomacy by a hundred fold and you can understand what is required by my two esteemed colleagues at the Old Firm clubs. The intensity of the coverage of the big two clubs requires both Walter Smith and Gordon Strachan to think about the minute implications of every word they utter. They risk offending the other lot as well as their own support. Now that's pressure.
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Yes, still moved. I hadn't recieved my reallocation. Phoned yesterday and picked up this afternoon. No Hassles.
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I'm I glad I didn't sell Billy to you!!
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It is still possible that we can reach 5th place. That would be enough for European football next season. All we need to garauntee that is an old firm final or at least the winner already being in the top 4.
It's already been shown this season that any team outwith the old firm can beat the rest. The league and each club it's to tight to call at the moment.
We need to make sure that after Sunday we get on awinning run of 4 or 5 games. If we win on Sunday even better but I'm not feeling that confident about it at the minute.
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Thought that was the formation for tomorrow 'Flow. One up front and an extra player on the bench.
If I had a job I'd be there tomorrow night instead I'll be viewing it on the box.
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playing teams 4 x a season
Hopefully with the comments that Smith had about the Old Firm game on Sunday we may eyt see a move to a bigger league happen.
In case you missed it the reason that the game ended 0-0 was that they play each other to often so have now got to the point of being able to cancel each other out.
One of the sticking points for change was the Old Firm Derby, the other was obviously the money the rest of the League would face with only haing them visit twice a saeason.
However I think we can safely say the Old Firm Derby is no longer one of the biggest or best in the world (if it ever was) so might be better only having 2 a season.
Anyway back to McCarthy and the jeering, I can understand why people would boo him if they are viewing him as an oppsotion player but to boo him because he's chosen Ireland over Scotland is nonsense. Someone at that young age has filled his head with nonsense or the other option is he was already a big headed git who couldn't believe that other folk were getting picked ahead of him for the Scotland Nursery team.
From what I have seen against us he is no big loss. With us being the local derby you'd think he'd be able to step up and show us this potential but he ain't done it yet.
For god sakes it was only a couple of years ago I was getting told that my oldest had the potential to do well. He was banging in goals left, right and centre. However that potential seems to have disappeared in the last season or two. Wrong coaches, wrong team, wrong attitude? It could be any of these things but it could also be it was never to be.
The same could be happening to McCarthy or it could be he's burning out. The pressures of the modern game on a youngster can be devastating. Him and McArthur have helped carry the Hamilton side to the SPL and have yet to get a break from it.
Maybe this is why none of the clubs that were reportedly interested in signing him have made moves to do so. Hamilton are just like the rst of the clubs in the SPL and Scottish Football if the right offer cmes in they'll snap your hand off for it.
I really think to see how much potential and ambition he really has we need to see where he goes next.
In the meantime stop fretting about him playing for Ireland. It's not as if he's going to come up against us competitively in the forseeable future.
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The law about children in pubs is that they must have a room for them, Children under the age of 14 are not allowed to witness the purchase of alcohol.
Seems weird that, especially as kids can watch you purchasing alcohol in Asda, Tesco etc.
Obviously some jobsworth\churchgoing\politically correct brigade member (delete as applicable) has made that rule up to hinder pub landlords.
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As there's already a thread on the undersoil heating, I'll close this one just now.
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I know where you're coming from. Dissent is a very silly offence for which to pick up a yellow card. However, in the heat of the moment its maybe understandable....someone assaults you after the ball is played, maybe you react - no real action is taken, you mouth off and the ref cards you. I suppose its down to frustration - the officials witness what went on yet bottle it.
According to his interview in the Record today that booking has earned him a 3 match suspension.
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McGhees comments about the fans were spot on and I believe this was the right time to come out and say it.
If he left it any later then he'd only get accussed of bringing the MFC name into disrepute. As it is, it's been well documented in the last week about what our fan base is like. So now was the time to say it.
At the end of the day je is only doing what any good gaffer would do and stick up for his staff.
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Congrats Clarky.
Shame that it wasn't a better goal to celebrate it properly although I suppose it being against Hamilton makes up for that.
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I hope we see a good game today, well as good as the pitch will allow.
Hopefully we'll come out best with a 3-1 win.
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Ah well, I hope McGhee has passed this info onto Klimpl I think he has been treading fairly close to the line between yellow and red with some of his bookings.
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Looks like the good old fashioned 4-3-3 back again then
I'd imagine
Hughes, Klimpl, O'Brien for the midfield
Sheridan, Sutton and Clarky.