Ya Bezzer!

Can't complain too much about attitude and application. You could argue we were the better team in the first half and we definitely had more good opportunities than the opposition to score. But when you don't take your chances against a team like Celtic.....also a bit worrying that that is 3 league games without a goal and we've only scored more than 1 once in the last 8. For me Celtic are pretty poor at the back and you aren't going to get much better chances than we did tonight. Thought Rolando Aarons showed up well even though he looks well off it in terms of fitness but you could have said that about a few tonight who looked gassed after 60 minutes. The lack of pace in our midfield really got shown up tonight, Celtic players were breezing past us on the counter and the inability to track overlaps and runners showed we have a lot to do on our off the ball work. Overall, decent 1st half, blown away 2nd half. We gave it a go in the first half and considering we probably don't have a single player that would make the Celtic XI you have to be happy enough that we competed. We need to start taking chances though, if we'd had a 25% conversion rate in the first half we probably wouldn't have lost so heavily in the second but its tough when you go 0-2 down.

Surely it makes sense for both him and the club to sign, say, a new two year deal with better terms and a reasonable release clause? The Celtic transfer puzzled me and would do even more now. They have Ryan Christie and Tom Rogic is coming back from injury.

We aren't winning any cups if we roll over to Celtic. Put down a marker tonight and if and when we get to the stages of the cup were we are playing Rangers and Celtic you have a result at your back. Otherwise it's going to be the last Cup final all over again.

In our last 10 matches we've only won once when the opposition scored. Celtic have scored in 23 out 24 league matches this term. If you were a betting man you'd go 3-0 Celtic but I've been a Motherwell supporter long enough to know that often our results are counter intuitive. Just the fact that we were so bad against Livingston makes me think we might get something out of this tonight.

That was the one recent match that Celtic didn't play 3-5-2. They played four at the back that day.

Celtic have lost twice in this domestic campaign....both to 4-3-3 formations. For me the whole idea of flooding the defence and midfield against teams like Celtic hardly ever works. You are better just going for it like we did in the first game at Fir Park. If we'd taken our chances in that match and cut out poor individual mistakes we could easily got a result.

That's exactly why we were right to sell. Next season there might have been much more serious consequences in selling a good first team player. None of the things you have mentioned have changed, they are all still to play for but if we don't make it we'll probably still have had our best season in ages.

Scott was our out ball. He beat players, created spaces for others and brought us forward as a team. Wasn't there today so can't comment on today's performance but I think it's going to be a problem for us, if you'll excuse the pun, going forward.

Last time at Fir Park they scored with every shot on target. 5 out of 5.

Gillespie keeping us in it by the sound of it.

Do you think Scottish football is held in as high regard as it was at the time of Lee McCulloch? The facts are the reputation of the league and the quality gap between English and Scottish football has massively widened. The quality of Scottish football has plummeted far further than any inflation calculation would take account of. Performing well in our league is not even considered as any kind of reliable indicator of ability. It's considered almost like a kind of youth or amateur football. A player stands out a bit and clubs take a punt on them with no great expectation. To imagine the context of the James transfer is anything like that of the McCulloch transfer is to complete ignore what has happened to Scottish football over the last 20 years. You aren't even factoring in that Lee McCulloch was an experienced players with close to 150 appearances when James Scott has less than a season of experience. You also ignore the different financial model that the club operates under. When McCulloch was sold we were operating a debt that we couldn't operate under now, in fact it nearly ended the club then. Today the club has to live off it's own means and that equates to not having the same ability to turn down offers of note. A couple of months ago plenty people around here were of the opinion that James Scott should be farmed out on loan, or that he wasn't first team material. Now we are receiving 1 million up front and potentially more. I liked Scott, I pushed for his inclusion on these forums but in my mind this is a good deal for the club. I think it stretches credibility to make out that anyone thought we'd be selling Scott for this fee now. That tells its own story. Does it impact the starting XI? Of course it does, if our new loan signing doesn't step up, I think we'll suffer more than a little on the playing side but in the position we are in as a club it is far more important that we can continue to fund a high level of youth development and that the club doesn't run up debts. The thing we have to insure is that youth development is a major, in fact integral, focus, so that the next Campbell, Scott, Hastie, Turnbull isn't far away.

Disappointing to see James Scott go but since clubs generally buy potential from our level of football, rather than experience, I don't see any other way of conducting business. The days of holding on to players and building, as in the McLean era, is simply impossible now and while that might be hard and unpleasant to swallow its something we just have to come to terms with. In the general scheme of things its important that we keep up the high levels of development that we saw under Craigan's tenure and that is a major focus for the club to continue to produce good quality players.

Not touch. Barge pole.

Here's the old firm league defeats since Rangers got back into the top level in 2016-17. 6 - Kilmarnock 5 - Heart of Midlothian 4 - Aberdeen 3 - Hibernian 2 - Dundee 2 - Livingston 1 - Hamilton 1 - St Johnstone 1 - Inverness 0 - Motherwell 0 - Ross County 0 - St. Mirren 0 - Partick Thistle With the exception of Kilmarnock, who Steve Clarke did an amazing job with getting rid of the wee club mentality, I think a trend is pretty clear.

Even when good, wee teams tend to have a wee team mentality. At the opposite end of the scale even when bad, bigger teams tend to have a bigger team mentality. Teams like Hearts and Aberdeen have done well against Rangers because they approach the game with a different mindset. It goes beyond form, line ups, tactics.

Aberdeen now 3 wins in their last 10. Not great form and the fans aren't happy with the style of play. They are under a wee bit of pressure and have been dire since the break. Livingston should not be underestimated. For me they have one of the best midfield rosters in the league, are coming off 5 home wins on the trot and have only lost at home to Rangers and Aberdeen. Away to Livingston has been one of the tougher fixtures for the past couple of seasons.

He's obviously been to the Ronaldo School of Winning Free Kicks.

Gallagher. Had a wee slip near the end but otherwise breezed through the match.

Bit of a frustrating match today. Felt we completely dominated the first half but it was summed up in James Scott, destroyed the Hibs full back but the final touch wasn't quite there. That was sort of echoed across the team - good performances but lacking end product. Second half didn't think we were at the same level, we still dominated but we gave Hibs more opportunities to counter attack which were the only occasions they really looked dangerous. MacIver did well enough but when Manzinga came on he provided the physicality that perhaps MacIver lacked. Was only denied by a great save. Our performances at set pieces was poor considering Hibs aren't exactly a big team. Overall the performance was decent enough but just lacking that edge up front.

Bare in mind these are only league match appearances between 2010 - 2019 so some players would have more appearances, Mark Reynolds for instance had a lot more, but certainly for the current squad that's correct. In fact 11 of our current squad have made their Motherwell debuts this season - if you include Casper Sloth who hasn't yet made a league appearance and isn't on the list.

I was away all day yesterday and I don't usually comment on matches I don't attend but just wanted to say what an excellent result last night was. Also a wee fact - we've worn our away strip 5 times this season and won 4 and drawn 1. Must imbue the greatest super powers since our 'Dortmund' strip I reckon.

Today - 0 seconds. Pulled off the individual season spreadsheets that I've been keeping for 15 years.

I said as much. There are at 10+ midfielders who were much worse (Gomis, Clay, etc) but they tended to be central midfielders and given the limited choice of left wingers that's who I went for.

LEAGUE APPEARANCES 2010 - 2019 LASLEY, Keith 232 9 HAMMELL, Stevie 219 2 McMANUS, Stephen 135 5 HATELEY, Tom 126 9 AINSWORTH, Lionel 121 23 HUMPHREY, Chris 120 6 HUTCHINSON, Shaun 115 4 SUTTON, John 113 54 RANDOLPH, Darren 111 0 MURPHY, Jamie 111 30 CADDEN, Chris 106 6 TAIT, Richard 106 2 CAMPBELL, Allan 92 8 CARSWELL, Stuart 87 0 McHUGH, Carl 85 3 MOULT, Louis 84 38 McDONALD, Scott 83 24 CRAIGAN, Stephen 81 0 GRIMSHAW, Liam 80 0 LAW, Nicky 76 10 OJAMAA, Henrik 73 14 BOWMAN, Ryan 72 10 HIGDON, Michael 72 40 RAMSDEN, Simon 69 1 FRANCIS-ANGOL, Zaine 66 3 JENNINGS, Steve 64 0 LAW, Josh 64 0 DUNNE, Charles 60 0 FREAR, Elliott 57 3 McHUGH, Bob 57 5 ALDRED, Tom 54 4 KERR, Fraser 54 1 JOHNSON, Marvin 53 6 PEARSON, Stephen 50 9 GILLESPIE, Mark 48 0 McFADDEN, James 48 11 MAIN, Curtis 47 8 VIGURS, Ian 47 6 BIGIRIMANA, Gael 45 2 CARSON, Trevor 45 0 HARTLEY, Peter 44 4 HENEGHAN, Ben 41 1 ROSE, Andy 40 2 DALEY, Omar 39 3 FORBES, Ross 39 0 RIPLEY, Connor 38 0 REYNOLDS, Mark 38 2 KIPRE, Cedric 36 1 SAMSON, Craig 36 0 SAUNDERS, Steven 36 2 CLAY, Craig 35 1 ERWIN, Lee 34 5 REID, Craig 34 1 SCOTT, James 34 4 ANIER, Henri 32 9 THOMAS, Dom 32 0 TURNBULL, David 32 15 TWARDZIK, Dan 30 0 LEITCH, Jack 27 0 CLANCY, Tim 26 0 LAING, Louis 26 2 MOORE, Craig 26 1 CHALMERS, Joe 25 0 CUMMINS, Adam 25 1 TANNER, Craig 25 6 DONNELLY, Liam 22 6 JOHNSON, Danny 22 6 KENNEDY, Kieran 22 0 GALLAGHER, Declan 21 2 HYLTON, Jermaine 21 2 POLWORTH, Liam 21 1 LAWSON, Paul 20 0 RODRIGUEZ GORRIN, Alex 20 0 COLE, Devante 19 4 O'BRIEN, Mark 19 0 SEEDORF, Sherwin 19 2 NIELSEN, Gunnar 19 0 O'BRIEN, Jim 19 3 BLACKMAN, Nick 18 10 HALL, Ben 18 1 HOLLIS, Lee 18 0 LONG, Chris 18 5 ARIYIBI, Gboly 17 2 HASTIE, Jake 17 6 COKE, Giles 17 2 JUTKIEWICZ 17 5 RUDDY, John 17 0 CARROLL, Jake 16 2 FERGUSON, David 16 0 SAMMON, Connor 16 0 GOW, Alan 15 1 FLETCHER, Wes 14 1 GUNNING, Gavin 14 0 McMILLAN, Jack 14 0 PAGE, Johnny 14 0 CASAGOLDA, Esteban 13 0 LONG, George 13 0 PETRAVICIUS, Deimantas 13 0 JONES, Steve 12 1 MAGUIRE, Barry 12 0 STRAKER, Tony 12 0 CIFTCI, Nadir 11 3 FISHER, Alex 11 0 GRANT, Conor 11 1 MacLEAN, Ross 11 0 GOMIS, Morgaro 10 0 GRIFFITHS, Russell 10 0 HIGGINBOTHAM, Kallum 10 1 JEFFERS, Francis 10 1 JULES, Zak 10 1 LUCAS, Lee 10 0 O'HARA, Mark 10 0 ROBINSON, Theo 9 0 NEWELL, George 8 0 FITZPATRICK, Marc 8 0 McGLINCHEY, Michael 8 0 CLARKSON, David 7 0 MUGABI, Beavis 7 0 TAYLOR, Jake 7 0 WATT, Luke 7 0 HENDRIE, Stephen 6 0 MBULU, Christian 6 0 ROSS, Maurice 6 0 TAYLOR-SINCLAIR, Aaron 6 0 BLYTH, Jacob 5 0 LIVINGSTONE, Adam 5 0 GORDON, Shea 4 0 ILIC, Christian 4 0 FRASER, Michael 4 0 HETHERINGTON, Steve 3 0 HUGHES, Stephen 3 0 McCORMACK, Ross 3 0 MURRAY, Euan 3 0 POLLOCK, Jamie 3 0 SEMPLE, Jamie 3 0 MACIVOR, Ross 2 1 MAZINGA, Christy 2 1 MEECHAN, Steven 2 0 SMITH, Gary 2 0 THOMAS, Nathan 2 0 BROWN, Liam 1 0 CORNELIUS, Dan 1 0 DEVINE, David 1 0 FERGUSON, Rohan 1 0 MACKIN, Dylan 1 0 SHIRKIE, Dale 1 0 STEWART, Ross 1 0

Didn't play many games and was as far back in the decade as you could get. That and some ignominious competition probably got him off the hook.