El Grew
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Having read the responses concerning the damages to seating in the away stand yesterday I have concluded that the club should advise Celtic FC that in future they will not receive any tickets when they play at Fir Park.
I recognise that this will cost the club revenue but I think that’s better than the “just suck it up they’re paying for the damages” argument.
I’m sick and tired of seeing the rest of Scottish football kowtow to this lot and their fellow bigots from Ibrox.
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On an other topic, Where did all the added time today come from? There were 4 minutes added at the end of the first half and 7 minutes at the end of the 2nd half. That’s 11 extra minutes. I don’t recall any lengthy stops.
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26 minutes ago, santheman said:
Away club is responsible for any damage caused by their fans.
Rule H40
In the event that any damage shall be caused to the fabric of a Home Ground or
Neutral Venue, including any fixtures and fittings and/or the pitch, by the supporters
of the Visiting Club or, in the case of such a Neutral Venue, the supporters of either
Club participating in the relevant match, on the occasion of an Official Match then
the Visiting Club in the case of such damage to the fabric of the ground, of a Home
Club or, as the case may be, the Club whose supporters causing or who have caused
any such damage to a Neutral Venue, shall, if and only if directed by the Board and
subject to the relevant Maximum Aggregate Amounts Payable set out in Rule H42,
be obliged to compensate the Home Club, Neutral Venue owner or, where the
Company has to any extent compensated or be obliged to compensate a Neutral
Venue owner, the Company, in the costs and/or expense and/or liability reasonably
incurred or to be incurred by the Home Club, Neutral Venue owner and/or Company
in repairing and making good such damage.Thanks for this santheman. That covers the reparations side of things. Now what about refusing to admit their fans/only admit a token few/put a premium on their tickets?
I assume we can refuse them admission as both they and their bigot brothers have been doing that to each other recently.
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As far as the damages in the away stand are concerned it’s not the first time they’ve done this and the club should report it to the SPFL and the SFA and ensure Celtic FC are charged for all repair and replacement costs. Then in future the club should:
1) Refuse to admit Celtic fans to Fir Park; or
2) Reduce their allocation to a rump; or/and
3) Add a premium to the price of their tickets.
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In 2022 Celtic outplayed Madrid for 45 minutes but expended so much energy that by the hour mark they were knackered. Madrid ran them ragged and won 3-0.
I think we suffered the same fate today. A very good 1st half but after an hour we were jagged and they dominated thereafter.
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All very well reasoned views and obviously heart-felt.
However the ‘club’ appeared to have recognised that its present financial model on its own wasn’t sustainable going forward, hence the appeal for interested parties to invest.
I, like the rest of the ‘Well family would’ve been utterly devastated if we had ‘gone under’ a few years back and I still would be if it reared its ugly head again. However I always felt that no matter how well intentioned, fan ownership with a core fan-base of around 4,000 was never sustainable long term.
So, I think we all need to think long and hard about what we want for our club and at what level we want it to operate.
If our raison d’etre is simply to ensure we continue to exist AND we want to stick with the current financial model to achieve this, then we might have to accept this means playing and staying outwith the premier league.
Not an easy decision to make as this would inevitably lead to reductions in income from gate receipts, hospitality, TV and sponsorship thus putting more strain on the WS.
Never a dull moment being a ‘Well fan.
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I wasn’t really expecting us to win today however I thought we played very well in the first half and managed to nullify them as an attacking force to the extent that they were forced into changing formation and shape for the second half. However I felt we never offered very much ourselves as an attacking force and it looked as though Kettlewell had set his stall out for a draw.
They never managed to cut us open from open play and on the rare occasions when we got on the front foot their defence looked very ordinary but we lacked the quality and composure needed to take advantage. Sadly the two goals we lost were yet again quite soft from a defensive point of view.
However we are 7 points clear of Ross County and 10 clear of Livingston and if we can beat Livingston at the end of the month then I think we’ll be okay.
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On 2/11/2024 at 11:09 PM, SteelmaninOZ said:
Sounds more like the last of the summer wine yes?
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With apologies to Grizzly, don’t you mean last of the summer whine.
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48 minutes ago, David said:
Here's my question to those talking about us "sleepwalking our way to disaster."
The consensus is that this term means someone or an organisation "proceeding towards a negative outcome or catastrophe without being fully aware of the consequences or taking appropriate action to prevent it. It suggests a state of being unaware, passive, or complacent in the face of impending danger or trouble, much like someone who is sleepwalking is unaware of their surroundings or actions."
Yet we see the same people using this term on this forum openly admitting that the club has been "seeking a beneficiary that can provide shortfall funding when we are not self-sustainable/propped up by the society for approximately 18 months now."
This would suggest that we're not "sleepwalking our way to disaster." The club is making plans and moves to bring in external funding. We need to realise, though, that it's not easy to do that.
Companies that can claim to offer a solid business plan and a good chance of a decent return on investment find it difficult to bring in funding. A small Scottish football club that can offer a slim opportunity to make a profit on investment will find it incredibly hard.
Thank-you Mr Weir.
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Our next run of games hardly fills me with enthusiasm in terms of us picking up points.
Aberdeen (a)
Hearts (a)
Celtic (h)
Livingston (a)
Rangers (a)
Aberdeen (h)
I think this run of games will determine whether we’ll still be in the top flight come the end of the season.
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Like a few others who have posted I’ve been going to Fir Park since the mid to late 1960s. In that time there’s been lots of great highs and heartbreaking lows.
However I can’t help feeling that for a few years now the club has fallen into an ever descending downward spiral.
Other than our struggling on the playing side (which inevitably fluctuates from year to year) there are other worrying factors at play.
We occupy a ground that’s been way past its best for a long time now and despite the large amounts of money shelled out on it in recent years it really isn’t fit for purpose anymore. It seems that the club has lacked and probably still does lack vision to deal with this. I think other than Dens Park our ground is the worst in the top flight.
We still haven’t appointed a new CEO or found a new chairman and the club has been allowed to become rudderless for too long.
By its the own admission the badly needs an injection of new investment. The recent attempt at trying to attract interested parties was a bit amateurish and seems to have been fruitless - other than a few people joining the Well Society.
I always looked forward to the cup competitions but our recent performances in these have been mediocre and for the second year running we’ve been knocked out of the Scottish Cup by a team from a lower league.
It may well be an age thing but going to games now has become more of a penance than a pleasure.
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A great confidence boosting win with plenty of very good performances - only slightly tempered by the fact that they were utter pish.
I think Andy Halliday has made a big difference. With him just in front of the defence he has provided much needed security and given Blair Spittal a platform to play off and show his creativity.
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34 minutes ago, wellgirl said:
He said he saw potential in Bair.
Just been reading through the posts on this topic and you’re all over it like a bad fitting suit. You seem to have a need to pass comment got on everything and I’ve yet to see anything constructive in your posts - which thankfully are brief - just having a pop at other posters whose views don’t conform to yours. You’d do well to remember that this is an open public forum and people are free to hold and express views different to you.
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Presently, it seems to be only social media speculation that Spittal has agreed to join St. Mirren and I would not expect the club to comment on this. However it would be reasonable to assume they have ‘confronted’ him to ascertain if it is true and the reason for him wanting to leave; although it’s likely to be either for a bigger wage, a longer term contract or both.
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I appreciate St. Johnstone are not a great benchmark but I thought today we were the better team by a long, chalk and just lacked a real cutting edge up front.
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Paul McGinn. Best player on the park.
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Our record in the league vs St. Johnstone away isn’t too bad:
P78 W26 D22 L30Win: 33%; Draw: 28%; Lose 39%
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Our record versus Morton at Cappielow in ScottishCup:
P2 W0 D1 L1
The loss was away back in 1922. The draw was a replay in 1991 which we won on penalties and went on to lift the cup.
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1 hour ago, bobbybingo said:
To be fair, your suggestion was far funnier.
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7 minutes ago, bobbybingo said:
Get beat?
You’re a regular riot!
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FFS Motherwell try and play some football on the deck. Watch what Alloa do and try and emulate them.
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Piss poor penalty. Hit at a nice height for the ‘keeper. Not out of the woods by a long way here.
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3 minutes ago, wellsince75 said:
we have too many first team regulars who won’t look out of place in the first division
I’d suggest they wouldn’t look out of place in the 2nd division.
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They look as likely to score as us!
2024/25 Ins & Outs Discussion
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Lennon Miller is just 17 and looks as though he has a very good career in front of him.
However, media hacks and pundits suggesting that the OF clubs should think about signing him is disgraceful. The same clowns always bemoan how uncompetitive the league is yet as soon as any decent players appear on the scene at other clubs they start touting them.
I just hope him and his dad don’t get carried away only to have his career ruined like many others before him. If he keeps progressing he can set his sights much higher than Ibrox or Parkhead.