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Efford can play as a striker.

You are right of course, and there is no doubt it should not be tolerated and he did do this as a professional earning more than the majority of people who graft every day. I suppose the but is this. Managers are paid to manage players and personalities. O'Donnell, Tierney & McKinstry aren't playing just now and it'll be up to Kettlewell to motivate these guys too. Hammell didn't manage Van Veen and what he is. He wants to win, and get goals. The manager did not give him the support he required by his formation. I won't dance on his grave but he mismanaged him & a vast number of other matters.

We do know - we played Raith.

I really enjoyed Kettlewells interview and paid aspect to the fact of the 3-5-2 and what St Mirren had done to be hard to beat. He installed graft tonight - St Mirren were the better team but a solid foundation and an impressive interview. Well done Stuart.

Having rewatched the first goal I can't believe how lame Goss was for the first goal. He has zero toughness. I like the 3-5-2 suggestion or 5-3-2 could we chuck in a youngster, i'd rather have that than O'Donnell. Kelly Johnston Lamie McGinn Youngster Furlong Cornelius Slattery Danzaki Van Veen Aitchison

For a start I've no idea how much I've put in https://rewards.foundationofhearts.org/login They have a reward scheme found here https://www.foundationofhearts.org/about-the-fans-reward-scheme/ The total pledge (wow) is on the front page They have people collecting at every game etc etc

I'm not a mad fan of the Well Society set up and think it can work but a simple few changes of commercial changes of direction by the society would provide ample awards. https://www.foundationofhearts.org/# Much much better

I'll be first to name the team Oxborough (just to see what he is like/ what if Kelly gets injured?) Johnston Blaney Lamie Penney McGuire Cornelius Tierney McKinstry Van Veen Crankshaw

I don't blame those two - I don't see much shouts for a quality Defensive central midfielder - I think it's the most vital of signings.....and I think it will help those guys out massively.

Leitch was a tremendously underrated player good to hear his name again.

O'Donnell is a Celtic fan

Assuming nobody who is injured plays this is the rough team Kelly O'Donnell Soljohm Lamie Penny Spittal Cornelius Slattery Goss Moult Shields Five boys as subs & Morris/Mcguire

I like the few definitions of madness posts from earlier..........2 up top please. Even if Moult is not the player he was the style of the second half play was more dangerous. Midfield needs industry and in Cornelius we have this from the bench.

But still had the better chances.....

I think he'd be amazing with us /whoever. He would have the Spl teams in toast if he avoids injuries which he has struggled with. Reminds of McGeady permanently booed by Celtic fans because he takes men on and sometimes loses it. Have him in a heartbeat.

Team time. Getting harder each week. This would get us the 3-1 win. Ummmm let's do something a bit different. Kelly McGinn Mugabi Sol O'Donnell Slattery Goss Spittal Cornelius Van Veen Coyne/Arnott

SOD seems to get better with every post. He's been crap, no doubt. Sure he will live on that England game forever. Shame he was beaten so tamely in the air in the next game against Croatia. Let's not mention that. Comparing him with the likes of Efford, Carroll etc etc is a mute point. All of the comparatives are not good enough either. This is why we are watching this guff. Let's see in the fullness of time, how SOD performs. I'd rather be incorrect that right. So as I said before over to SOD.

It’s not one or the other. Both Alexander and O’Donnell can get tae.

Dick Campbell

He had a wee spell where he looked as if he would do the business, hence the cries for contract extensions. Sadly has reverted backwards. Confidence is low. In fact I would say Shields, Mugabi and if we are unfortunate very soon Tierney, Spittal and Morris could all be lacking in confidence.

Nobody has picked a team - so I might as well as the new interim manager Kelly McGinn Sol Mugabi Carroll McGuire Cornelius Goss Slattery Tierney Van Veen I actually don't like this team at all, one goal will win the game but to who? It's clear we need signings that are direct up front.

I think we will but this is the last I will say. You clearly have more people agreeing with you as you have the post likes! How where they not treated the same way? Carroll and McGinley played a merry go round with each other and both ended up starting less games than O'Donnell. I do agree that both individuals more particularly Carroll was at fault for certain goals and he did lose his place like O'Donnell. So how is that not the same? Shields only started 17 matches in a yoyo season, was he treated unfairly? MacGuire was injured for most of the season. Watt was our best player and led us ultimately to 5th dropping him would have been insane. I don't think I agree that our support on Steelmenonline online are petty enough that if O'Donnell had some form of cracking game the fans would not vote for him. Kelly won man of the match in our last game by a mile where some of his comments may have caused supporters not to vote. I cannot remember O'Donnell having good games. I've seen him be ok but can't recollect better than that. Talking about this Motherwell supporters site and the BBC where one man and his dog voted is not comparable. It's up to O'Donnell to prove me wrong, if he plays well I'll be the first to acknowledge. There is no grudge to bare. He simply needs to do the business on the pitch. PS: I agree with every single post David has made, more eloquently put than myself! (but i did use the word eloquently)

Short term memories. O'Donnell made about five critical errors in games in a row. Crazy handballs to not clearing his lines (remember now?) gifting goals. I am the polar opposite to your narrative, I couldn't believe when we signed O'Donnell and thought it was a coup for the club. Stinks of player power and when Gannon got sacked for dropping seniors who were simply not playing well. No one has a god given right to play when they are playing poorly. Which is why I found it nice and refreshing to see the young man make his debut last week ahead of Tierney who played poorly in his last game. * Name 5 decent games he's had. Where did he finish in last seasons votes by fans?

This comment is absolutely smack on the money. "O'Donnell's critics go away when he has a good game" - I've seen games he's been ok - but I can't think of any games where he has stood out at all. What position did he finish/how many points did he get in this forum for last year (perhaps on a per game basis?) - my gut says not many. Seems a nice guy and wish him all the best but I'd certainly rather have McGinn.

I'll take the bet. Aberdeen will be 6ish or better. Hibs worse. Have you seen who they have signed???